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‘We don’t need votes’: Trump doubles down on poll watching rhetoric in Detroit speech​

Trump once again peddled a bigoted election conspiracy theory that he has frequently used to target cities with large Black populations.


June 17, 2024, 2:43 PM EDT
By Ja'han Jones
Though portions of Donald Trump’s visit to Detroit over the weekend were portrayed by his campaign as efforts to make inroads with Black voters, Trump used the trip to peddle a bigoted election conspiracy theory that he has frequently used to target Black communities.
Trump’s reported comments last week bashing Milwaukee as a “horrible” city placed his disdain for cities with large Black populations in focus.
Trump has developed a reputation for portraying these cities, such as Atlanta and Baltimore, as crime-infested hellholes.
Trump has developed a reputation for portraying these cities, such as Atlanta and Baltimore, as crime-infested hellholes. And he leaned into such attacks after his election loss to Joe Biden in 2020, when he falsely accused many of these cities of allowing rampant election fraud.

As an example, he reportedly urged officials in Michigan not to certify election results, claiming “everybody knows Detroit is crooked as hell.” Since then, he has told his followers to “guard the vote” in cities like Detroit and that poll watching is even more important than voting itself.
During his appearance at an event put on by right-wing activist group Turning Point Action, Trump said that he has told the host group’s founder, Charlie Kirk, and Republican National Committee chair Michael Whatley that the No. 1 priority is to “guard the vote.”
He said:
I said to Charlie and I said to Michael: Listen, we don’t need votes. We got more votes than anybody’s ever had. We need to watch the vote. We need to guard the vote. We need to stop the steal. We don’t need votes. We have to stop — focus, don’t worry about votes. We’ve got all the votes. I was in Florida yesterday — every house has a Trump sign. Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump. We have to guard the vote.
He went on to call mail-in ballots “treacherous” and ballot drop boxes “horrible.”
And Trump wasn’t done there. During a panel discussion hosted by a Black pastor in Detroit, Trump claimed nearly unanimous support from the heads of historically Black colleges and universities:
I think all of them are voting for Trump ... I’d say 99% of them. And if they aren’t — I don’t know what the hell the other side did — but we’ll start an investigation or something, OK?
These claims are two branches of the same conspiratorial tree.
No one has cast a single ballot in this year’s election, so the idea that Trump and his campaign “don’t need votes” — based in part on the number of yard signs he has seen or his baseless claim that HBCU presidents love him — illustrates that this is not some brilliant political tactician we’re talking about.
This is a man grooming his followers to reject the election results if they don’t fall in his favor. And that just underscores how big a threat Trump poses to democracy as we know it.
 

Biden Leads Over Trump with Young Voters According to New Poll​


 

Here’s how Americans feel about Biden and Trump as election season revs up​

Politics Updated on Jun 18, 2024 3:06 PM EDT — Published on Jun 18, 2024 5:00 AM EDT
As the season of big party conventions and presidential debates looms, a majority of Americans are not satisfied with either of the top two presidential candidates, according to the latest PBS News/NPR/Marist poll.
Fifty-five percent of U.S. adults said they were not satisfied with the choice between major party candidates President Joe Biden or former President Donald Trump.
“This is not a happy electorate,” said Lee Miringoff, who directs the Marist Poll, “but it is one that is starting to deal with the realities that these two are the choices they’re going to have to pick from.”
If November’s election were held today, Biden and Trump would be evenly matched, according to this latest poll, with 49 percent of U.S. registered voters saying they would vote for Biden and another 49 percent saying they would support Trump. Half of independent registered voters said they supported Biden, giving the current president a slight 2 percentage-point edge, but one that falls within the margin of error.
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Chart by Jenna Cohen/PBS News
That lack of enthusiasm for Trump or Biden may further help explain why so many people feel they have already made up their minds about how to cast their vote, Miringoff said. As in earlier polls, two-thirds of U.S. registered voters said they know who they would vote for, and nothing can change their mind.
But in a tight race where candidates are fighting for support along the margins, the question of who gets elected in November belongs to that remaining third of the country.
For those voters, the choice may come down to a handful of high-stakes issues and perceptions of which candidate handles them better.
In this latest poll, 30 percent of Americans said inflation will drive their vote more than other issues going into this election. That is up 6 percentage points from February, despite positive economic indicators such as falling inflation, Wall Street records and low unemployment.
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Chart by Jenna Cohen/PBS News
About the same number – 29 percent – say they are most concerned about preserving democracy. Another 18 percent said immigration mattered most to them. Abortion and crime, issues that Biden and Trump have referenced repeatedly as they campaign, drew some of the lowest numbers in the survey.
When U.S. adults thought about whether Trump or Biden would best handle those important issues:
  • 54 percent said Trump on the economy
  • 52 percent said Biden for preserving democracy
  • 54 percent said Trump for immigration
  • 54 percent said Biden on abortion
Half of Americans say they think Biden cares more about people like them, while 46 percent of Americans feel the same about Trump.
When considering a broader field that includes third party candidate Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., 1 in 10 registered voters say they support Kennedy for president. That includes 1 in 5 independent voters.

About half of Americans think Trump should go to prison​

When asked about Trump’s conviction on all 34 counts in his hush money trial, Americans were divided over how the former president should be sentenced. About half – 51 percent – said he probably should or should serve time in prison, while 47 percent said he probably should not or definitely should not get time behind bars.
This poll found that the conviction did not seem to shake the loyal support of his base. Though a minority of Americans hold a favorable impression of Trump — 42 percent — that support is basically the same as last month — 41 percent — before Trump was convicted. And in a matchup against Biden, he gained one point, month to month.
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Chart by Jenna Cohen/PBS News
Trump’s series of scandals, his conviction and his controversial statements on the campaign trail fail to discourage most of his supporters, said Republican strategist Whit Ayres. Trump also has made a series of racist and incendiary statements during his presidential rallies, calling immigrants “animals” and “not human” and warning of a “bloodbath” if he is not elected
“All that stuff has been baked into the cake,” he said. “Donald Trump has done that stuff for eight years. It hasn’t affected his numbers.”

Americans want to see the candidates debate​

Biden and Trump are expected to meet in a debate next week and 61 percent of U.S. adults say they will watch all or most of it. Another 24 percent said they would not watch the debate, but would pay close attention to related news coverage. Fourteen percent said they would avoid the debate altogether.
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Pollsters have to figure out how to reach the people they’re targeting. Photo by brat82/via Adobe

Trust in polling​

At its best, each poll (including this one) provides a snapshot in time of how a group of people feel about an issue. Following the 2016 presidential election between Trump and Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Rodham Clinton, the public lost faith in surveys and pollsters were left to figure out how so many polls, especially at the state level, got things so wrong.
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In this latest poll, 61 percent of Americans said they place little to no trust in polling]. That included 69 percent of independents, who were more likely than Republicans (65 percent) or Democrats (51 percent), to say they feel that way.
Younger people, especially those between the ages of 18 to 29, are least likely to say they will watch the debate, while older people, especially those age 60 or older, are most likely to watch.
The June 27 matchup, and one of only two debates expected in this race, will help set the stage for the Republican National Convention, which will be held July 15-18 in Milwaukee. The Democratic National Convention will be in Chicago Aug. 19-22.
For both men in the spotlight, the key will be how they perform on stage together, Ayres said.
“Can Joe Biden not look like a senile old man?” Ayres said. “Can Donald Trump not be an obnoxious jerk?”
If Trump behaves as he did during his first presidential debate with Biden during the 2020 campaign, where he talked over moderator Chris Wallace and was criticized for lacking decorum, Ayres warned that “he’ll have a serious setback for his campaign.” A 2020 POLITICO/Morning Consult poll conducted a day after that debate found a majority felt Biden had outperformed Trump.
At the same time, Ayres said if Biden “freezes or looks confused,” then the “pressure is going to increase dramatically to replace him.” Trump’s own most recent gaffe, during which he confused the name of the doctor who administered his cognitive test while recounting the story at a campaign event, happened after this poll was in the field.
PBS News, NPR and Marist Poll conducted a survey on June 10 through June 12 that polled 1,311 U.S. adults with a margin of error of 3.6 percentage points, 1,184 registered voters with a margin of error of 3.8 percentage points and 963 registered voters who definitely plan to vote in November’s general election with a margin of error of 4.2 percentage points.
Correction: A graphic included in this article misstated the number of people surveyed and the margin of error for a specific poll question. It has been updated. We regret the error.
 

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