Unrest in AJK Update and Discussion

[Circadian Rhythm]

Your side is a communal shit hole

Shehla Rashid was a Fierce Supporter of Article 370

Today she is enjoying Life and celebrating Progress in Kashmir

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[PakAl]

That’s the police’s fault for going in heavy handed especially a foreign force in an autonomous region.

They always bring in mafia Punjabi police, the local population will not tolerate state terrorism, the same Punjabi forces are used to attack people in Balochistan and KPK.

 

[Cash gk]

You don't need to do that

You just need to do some simple logical steps that no one will dare to do

1- dissolve all army business
2- ban army from agriculture and dairy farming (hell at ghazi air base that was taken over from WAPDA you can see all the base commanders have dairy farms for themselves on govt money, don't believe it come and see)
3- ban all BMWs
4- ban all private clubs and golf clubs
5- ban batman culture or wives of army generals
6- ban govt posts for retired army personel (they can go into private sector if they are qualified).
7- ban two retirements(sometimes three).
8- reduce army size to logical size ..small and lethal force is needed

This is the where their whole infrastructure stands

 

[Cash gk]

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I thought the big boss Salman is coming so that's cancelled

 

[PakAl]

Because the police folks were from there and they used the same tactics against PTI. So it's quite relevant.
Right we can agree that all those who fell foul of the law should be brought to trial. We can start with the crimes that were committed by the police in Punjab during the crackdowns. So far nothing.
You need to be from the region to understand the dynamics here. Take a look, every poster from the region is agreeing with me, what does that tell you?

@Waz
What Pakistanis in general fail to understand is that we have 250m population and people will always be protesting for one reason or another, their demands maybe good or even unacceptable, they still have every right to protest and the state job is to negotiate, explain to the people on why its not possible, not send security forces and kill, harass, kidnap people. This has always been the case in Pakistan, be it Balochistan, KPK, Bangladesh, AJK, GB and even Lahore Model Town and anti Pti operations. Its absolutely disgusting and unacceptable, tomorrow it could be our own blood. I love Pakistan and all of its people, the people complaints must be addressed.

 

[Cash gk]

You don't need to do that

You just need to do some simple logical steps that no one will dare to do

1- dissolve all army business
2- ban army from agriculture and dairy farming (hell at ghazi air base that was taken over from WAPDA you can see all the base commanders have dairy farms for themselves on govt money, don't believe it come and see)
3- ban all BMWs
4- ban all private clubs and golf clubs
5- ban batman culture or wives of army generals
6- ban govt posts for retired army personel (they can go into private sector if they are qualified).
7- ban two retirements(sometimes three).
8- reduce army size to logical size ..small and lethal force is needed

First of all we have to desolve their Parliament style of communist party hall which give us strong message. From where they rule us
We must make all effort to make Air Force and navy stronger than Army. As we have seen recent wars where army personals are like sitting ducks for enemies their effectiveness is gone because of new technologies..
These days we don’t need to occupy new warfare You go attack and come back.

 

[PakAl]

Yep 100%. Bro these people (who support tough action) are tone deaf and deny basic logic. The nation is in flames yet they type complete rubbish.

Those in charge think the same, they talk like, hum danda de ge in ko, tun ke rak de gei, this is the Pak mangi mentality, they feel all powerful with the uniform and kursi.

 

[last-soul]

@Waz
What Pakistanis in general fail to understand is that we have 250m population and people will always be protesting for one reason or another, their demands maybe good or even unacceptable, they still have every right to protest and the state job is to negotiate, explain to the people on why its not possible, not send security forces and kill, harass, kidnap people. This has always been the case in Pakistan, be it Balochistan, KPK, Bangladesh, AJK, GB and even Lahore Model Town and anti Pti operations. Its absolutely disgusting and unacceptable, tomorrow it could be our own blood. I love Pakistan and all of its people, the people complaints must be addressed.

I actually agree with you but at the same time there has to be fine line between protests and making unrealistic demands...and then causing widespread damage when you don't get your way. This would not be tolerated anywhere in the world and rightly so. I mean we know Pakistan is generally a very poor nation - and you can't have one group demand subsidies on energy, food, exemptions from taxes etc - I mean what world are these people living in?!?!

 

[arjunk]

But you can kill 80k Pakistani for dollars.

It was your beloved Taliban who killed 80K Pakistanis and no one else. Why don't you leave the comforts of spain and come to FATA to give your phull sapport? Because you know that they will kidnap you for ransom and behead you.

 

[PakAl]

Let's be honest it's not an Asim munir problem

It's the whole officers who are trained from age 18 in British style that's the problem

Unless the whole mentality of officers is changed from masters to serving it won't change

The same problem is in css/beuacrats as well

Great point, ever met a Pakistani politician, beauracrats, general in private gatherings, they act all high society brown sahibs and look down on general public.

 

[arjunk]

First of all we have to desolve their Parliament style of communist party hall which give us strong message. From where they rule us
We must make all effort to make Air Force and navy stronger than Army. As we have seen recent wars where army personals are like sitting ducks for enemies their effectiveness is gone because of new technologies..
These days we don’t occupy and need large forces when we need to when need to occupy territories to hold those occupied lands now system is changed. new warfare You go attack and come back.
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Are you seriously complaining about commanders' meeting?

 

[Cash gk]

Are you seriously complaining about commanders' meeting?

No i am saying they always show us their Parliament. We Never seen Air Force Parliament or navy Parliament.

 

[Jango]

The region isn't going to go up in flames, I can assure you this much.

These anarchist need to tone it down, or else the state will for them. There is no way Pakistan should give in to their blackmail. They need to understand, either through peaceful means or force, that you don't challenge the writ of the state.

As you said earlier, there maybe a case for a regional subsidy on power produced from that land, but absolutely nothing else.

Tum abhi bhi itnay na aqal ho and can't get this through your heads?

Dunya ki har cheez aik anarchist agenda, propaganda, foreign conspiracy nhn hoti.

Why can't you accept that people in Pakistan, across the country, have genuine grievances.

When those genuine grievances pile up, you just need a spark for the people to rise up and this is what has happened. I know of people who take their mother to pension offices, and a grade 14 sarkari mulazim tells them point blank to give them commission or no pension. Tum jab apni boorhi maa ko us ka haq dilwanay kay liay lay kar jao, aur tum say agla paisay mangay, to tum kia karo gay?

This is all that our state knows. Label something a foreign conspiracy, and quell it by force.

This is exactly what happens when you do not have an actual representative government. When the people don't see their own elected reps in power, rather someone who is forced on them, this is what happens.

If our interior minister today would have actually been elected, he would be worried of his seat and would have ran at the first instance to talk to the people and hear their concerns. Rather, he fcked off to Dublin.

This is 101 of governance. Har waqt bas mar do, band kar do, case bana do nhn chalta. This is why fauji ko hakoomat nhn karni chahiay, usay mar dhar kay ilawa kuch nhn ata.

 

[Cash gk]

I thought the big boss Salman is coming so that's cancelled

He will not come Saudi politics is very disturbed as he used brutal force against his cousins and snatched 18k billions dollars from them. as he gets security from Pakistan Army to run his country and Pakistanis are turning against their own army n which is not good for his repo . He cannot afford to lose people of Pakistan as he gets power from pakistan. Remember when he killed journalist in Turkey and the whole world turned against him and imran khan went to rescue him.