Shags202
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Your going to have at least several moderate republicans who are going to fear for reelection bids that will join DemsDemocrats in the Senate, assuming they reach 56 votes, are only 4 votes shy of filibuster proof strength.
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Your going to have at least several moderate republicans who are going to fear for reelection bids that will join DemsDemocrats in the Senate, assuming they reach 56 votes, are only 4 votes shy of filibuster proof strength.
Vance is not going to be able to pull out 28, you had a better chance going for Ron DeSantis rather than Vance.Oh trump is definitely irrelevant republicans are not going to be bending down for him like before Vance still has a shot if he can work some manic next 2 years
I’m actually going with desantis too for the nomination as well I’m just saying if Vance had could definitely have been a front runner but he stayed quiet way to long but never say never no one thought Trump had a shit in hell but he came back from the deadVance is not going to be able to pull out 28, you had a better chance going for Ron DeSantis rather than Vance.
For Vance to work, 2 things had to happen
1.) Trump had to step down, either literally or figuratively, so he either does a Nixon or he is handing the mantle to Vance; then Vance can reunite the GOP. I don't see either happening; Trump is on the way out; he cares Fuk-All about anything other than enriching himself. He would use his position to keep making himself rich, and he can't do that unless he is the head of the GOP, and as long as he is the head of the GOP, nothing will happen.
2.) Vance would need to go back on the MAGA branding; him going a separate route than Trump would not fare well for the MAGA base (including the donors like Elon Musk) at this point. MAGA still dominates the GOP, and without the MAGA support, you aren't going to get anything, and without Trump support, you can't even be on the ticket. Think about it, if far right like Benny Johnson or Ben Shapiro start badmouthing Vance, he won't have a chance.
2032 maybe, but Trump will very much still be the kingmaker for the 2028 election for GOP, I don't see Vance having a shot here.
Because the entire Branding for MAGA is alpha male......So I’m not the smartest guy on this forum(definitely not the dumbest just an average Joe Arab)I can totally admit that but sometimes I’m like why are people cheering this guy on I mean Barack got it right he spends more time in the mirror attempting to look good For the camera than actually care about American troops…..curious how much that haircut costs the American taxpayer
Oh I agree the maga crew didn’t leave him in 2020 but moderate republicans were left with a bad taste in their mouths after 2020 and even his conservative base abandoned him he was an afterthought a joke for awhile now he’s going back to being a joke and an afterthought no matter what he triesBecause the entire Branding for MAGA is alpha male......
All this manosphere, look maxxing or MAGA Barbie and stuff that's popular with the right wing now is all based on the Alpha-Male belief that men should have a six-pack and look extremely well groomed, women should be dolled up all the time and be a servant for the alpha male in the household
That's a weird diversion from traditional conservatism
It's different, Trump IS the brand, people don't vote for MAGA because it's MAGA, they voted for Trump.I’m actually going with desantis too for the nomination as well I’m just saying if Vance had could definitely have been a front runner but he stayed quiet way to long but never say never no one thought Trump had a shit in hell but he came back from the dead
The thing is, the moderate who went against the MAGA movement is now all gone; we can see from the 2026 primaries that unless you had Trump blessing, you aren't going to win the GOP primary. And that is the reason why the GOP lost so many seats in the midterm. Because Dems and most independents hated Trump.Oh I agree the maga crew didn’t leave him in 2020 but moderate republicans were left with a bad taste in their mouths after 2020 and even his conservative base abandoned him he was an afterthought a joke for awhile now he’s going back to being a joke and an afterthought no matter what he tries
Trump endorsed 22 gubernatorial candidates, and at least 11 lost, while 9 of the 24 Senate candidates he backed also lost. Several House candidates also suffered defeats at the ballot box.The thing is, the moderate who went against the MAGA movement is now all gone; we can see from the 2026 primaries that unless you had Trump blessing, you aren't going to win the GOP primary. And that is the reason why the GOP lost so many seats in the midterm. Because Dems and most independents hated Trump.
As of last night, they still had 25000 votes to countStill going on !!!
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2026/11/09/mississippi-senate-race-ballot-deadline-looms-scott-colom-lead-grows/
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Probably not in 2026; they would have lost either way. The GOP ticket is toxic in this election; there is a reason why you have over 20-point swings on average. You don't get this unless people voted for GOP vote Blue, it just not because Republican voters stayed home, which shows how unelectable the GOP candidate is if your own voter turning against you....Trump endorsed 22 gubernatorial candidates, and at least 11 lost, while 9 of the 24 Senate candidates he backed also lost. Several House candidates also suffered defeats at the ballot box.
So I wanted to see how many actually got elected I mean to be fair not that great and honestly most of these folks probably would have gotten elected without his backing and probably would have won with higher margins(that’s just me talking out of my butt about higher margins but probably true)
Crossing our fingers I’m not political I honestly could care less whose in office I just want these people to finally put water in their faces look in the mirror and start saying wtf are we doing to this country we aren’t in a collapse we are definitely in a decline America isn’t the America that we deserve it’s run by foreign countries(not just Israel a lot of Arab money going through those doors as well) and now we have the richest megalomaniac of them all attempting to openly buy elections Musk before they used to be hush hush about it can’t wait for musk to turn left and reinvent himself into a progressive democratProbably not in 2026; they would have lost either way. The GOP ticket is toxic in this election; there is a reason why you have over 20-point swings on average. You don't get this unless people voted for GOP vote Blue, it just not because Republican voters stayed home, which shows how unelectable the GOP candidate is if your own voter turning against you....
It is going to take years, if not decades, to rehab the GOP image.