Shags202
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Your going to have at least several moderate republicans who are going to fear for reelection bids that will join Dems
US 2026 Midterm Elections Thread
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Meengla
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Vance can't be fired and even Trump would be careful not to be publicly go against Vance. If Vance really wants to remain 'relevant' politically and try to go for POTUS 2028 then he has the luxury now to openly 'rebrand' himself: He could still be seen against illegal immigration--which is a major major issue in America. He could still be seen against schemes like H1Bs visa and against the 'Welfare Queens'. By doing those, he wins the trust of a large sections of the Americans. And by disengaging from wars for Israel and from the Russia-Ukraine war, he brings in more Americans into his tent. You can almost count on Democrats to screw up with DEI and pro illegal immigration policies.
For Vance: It is Now or Never. What's he got to lose? He is currently toast politically anyway unless he decides a different course of action: A bold departure from the past.
For Vance: It is Now or Never. What's he got to lose? He is currently toast politically anyway unless he decides a different course of action: A bold departure from the past.
j_hungary
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Vance is not going to be able to pull out 28, you had a better chance going for Ron DeSantis rather than Vance.
For Vance to work, 2 things had to happen
1.) Trump had to step down, either literally or figuratively, so he either does a Nixon or he is handing the mantle to Vance; then Vance can reunite the GOP. I don't see either happening; Trump is on the way out; he cares Fuk-All about anything other than enriching himself. He would use his position to keep making himself rich, and he can't do that unless he is the head of the GOP, and as long as he is the head of the GOP, nothing will happen.
2.) Vance would need to go back on the MAGA branding; him going a separate route than Trump would not fare well for the MAGA base (including the donors like Elon Musk) at this point. MAGA still dominates the GOP, and without the MAGA support, you aren't going to get anything, and without Trump support, you can't even be on the ticket. Think about it, if far right like Benny Johnson or Ben Shapiro start badmouthing Vance, he won't have a chance.
2032 maybe, but Trump will very much still be the kingmaker for the 2028 election for GOP, I don't see Vance having a shot here.
Shags202
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I’m actually going with desantis too for the nomination as well I’m just saying if Vance had could definitely have been a front runner but he stayed quiet way to long but never say never no one thought Trump had a shit in hell but he came back from the dead
j_hungary
Professional
Because the entire Branding for MAGA is alpha male......
All this manosphere, look maxxing or MAGA Barbie and stuff that's popular with the right wing now is all based on the Alpha-Male belief that men should have a six-pack and look extremely well groomed, women should be dolled up all the time and be a servant for the alpha male in the household
That's a weird diversion from traditional conservatism
Shags202
Trusted Member
Oh I agree the maga crew didn’t leave him in 2020 but moderate republicans were left with a bad taste in their mouths after 2020 and even his conservative base abandoned him he was an afterthought a joke for awhile now he’s going back to being a joke and an afterthought no matter what he tries
j_hungary
Professional
It's different, Trump IS the brand, people don't vote for MAGA because it's MAGA, they voted for Trump.
Vance is one of the stooges around Trump; he had his shot, but he'll mostly be overshadowed by Trump, even if he can't be elected again. Trump would want to keep control to himself. If Vance tries to outdo Trump, well, unless Vance has independent support, he is not going to get the MAGA people behind him.
j_hungary
Professional
The thing is, the moderate who went against the MAGA movement is now all gone; we can see from the 2026 primaries that unless you had Trump blessing, you aren't going to win the GOP primary. And that is the reason why the GOP lost so many seats in the midterm. Because Dems and most independents hated Trump.
Shags202
Trusted Member
Trump endorsed 22 gubernatorial candidates, and at least 11 lost, while 9 of the 24 Senate candidates he backed also lost. Several House candidates also suffered defeats at the ballot box.
So I wanted to see how many actually got elected I mean to be fair not that great and honestly most of these folks probably would have gotten elected without his backing and probably would have won with higher margins(that’s just me talking out of my butt about higher margins but probably true)
Gripen9
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As of last night, they still had 25000 votes to count
Apparently a lot of provisional ballots were cast that need to be manually verified and counted. Apparently Mississippi's Republican Secretary of State had used a list from Experian (credit reporting bureau) to update (read purge) voter roles. So a lot of people were struck off who then showed up to vote and were issued provisional ballots.
However, over 15000 outstanding ballots are from Hinds county that has Jackson. Colom secured over 80% of those votes. So if we keep that trend in mind, Colom will keep increasing his lead albeit slowly. This may take over two weeks to complete.
The SoS should call it or Ms. Cindy just call in to concede. Apparently she has been AWOL.
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j_hungary
Professional
Probably not in 2026; they would have lost either way. The GOP ticket is toxic in this election; there is a reason why you have over 20-point swings on average. You don't get this unless people voted for GOP vote Blue, it just not because Republican voters stayed home, which shows how unelectable the GOP candidate is if your own voter turning against you....
It is going to take years, if not decades, to rehab the GOP image.
Shags202
Trusted Member
Crossing our fingers I’m not political I honestly could care less whose in office I just want these people to finally put water in their faces look in the mirror and start saying wtf are we doing to this country we aren’t in a collapse we are definitely in a decline America isn’t the America that we deserve it’s run by foreign countries(not just Israel a lot of Arab money going through those doors as well) and now we have the richest megalomaniac of them all attempting to openly buy elections Musk before they used to be hush hush about it can’t wait for musk to turn left and reinvent himself into a progressive democrat
Meengla
Elite Member
Right. Trump came twice in late stages for Darlene Graham in my area. He had nominated Darlene personally to run as a replacement for the deceased Senator Lindsay Graham's seat. And yet a relatively unknown Annie Andrews beat Darlene comfortably.
Some people think people and their favorites stay the same. I think not. Sure, he is the main guy but a much diminished guy.
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