US Perspective on the Iran - Israel / US War

[AZ_HighCountry]

To be fair other than a few over the bias observations that you call out almost immediately and the user who decided to post here I have on ignore kind of a red flag this user isn’t credible

I question some of that person's posts just as I would any other. I refuse to rely on Twitter feeds and PowerPoint presentations to draw my conclusions. Including posts where some are in perpetual orgasm over all the new munitions contracts that have been awarded.

As you know, I come out of a long career in logistics. Prior to that it was manufacturing. I've been consistent since the orgasms started that it will be many months of not years before those contracts are fulfilled due to lack of capacity today. Here's an excellent example I had intended to post last night:

Site Expansions Underpin Lockheed Martin’s Munitions Production Ramp

Branded Content: Bigger sites, advanced manufacturing techniques, and boosting the workforce are key industry commitments to increased munitions production.

www.twz.com

Lockheed-Martin is a huge supplier to the US defense industry. Read the article. You too will see what is missing: how long it will take for that additional capacity to be on line for increased manufacturing.

I can give you a hint: a minimum of 18-24 months. 36 months is not unfeasible.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

See you call people out when they get boring or stale I’ve honestly been trying to to give him some slack because he is an American but you have to be honest there’s no real strategy.

the Iranians are more likely to become an isolated country like North Korea than fall they’re not going anywhere no matter what people think I’m telling you and let me just say I don’t think it’s going to happen but the only way to even try to topple Iran Is with boots on the ground and unless the world or Arab and Muslim countries want to send a couple of million troops in attempt to do that not going to happen

Some people's posts are broken records or simply a repost of some Twitter post.

If anything, I've been quite open. If the intent is to break the Iranian regime then great, we're doing just that. But if we're going to break them we have to break them including their will to fight.

At the end of WWII in Europe, the Germans still had the men and material to put up a fight. Frankly, Patton was the only one from the Western side who saw this. Stalin did as well. Therefore, the goal was to break them so hard they would eventually see that continued hostilities were futile. That is what we have here. Iran to their credit has not lost the will to fight.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Meanwhile, the price of gasoline in AZ is up once again. Costco for example is now up almost $0.20 from a couple of weeks ago. Granted, there is a holiday at play here. Will the price start to come down next Tuesday or Wednesday? Or not?

 

[MS Sandhu]

That is what we have here. Iran to their credit has not lost the will to fight.

That will comes from their resources.
If their resources are slowly blown up, there will remain no will to put a fight.And US military is doing exactly that through siege & as raptor says "mowing the lawn"

 

[Shags101]

Some people's posts are broken records or simply a repost of some Twitter post.

If anything, I've been quite open. If the intent is to break the Iranian regime then great, we're doing just that. But if we're going to break them we have to break them including their will to fight.

At the end of WWII in Europe, the Germans still had the men and material to put up a fight. Frankly, Patton was the only one from the Western side who saw this. Stalin did as well. Therefore, the goal was to break them so hard they would eventually see that continued hostilities were futile. That is what we have here. Iran to their credit has not lost the will to fight.

Give it to the Iranians they’re faced with overwhelming odds and they’re not following the playbook like Bibi thought they were if anything they’re preparing for far worse situations people say look look they have given up when there a lull in fighting or etc in my head nope there preparing for something bigger seriously Iraqis have gone quiet Hezbollah has gone quiet for the most part it’s pretty damn eerie and it seems like the Houthis are doing some heavy lifting while Iran can say to Saudis oh that’s not us wink wink like it wasn’t you guys who goaded Trump

 

[Shags101]

Meanwhile, the price of gasoline in AZ is up once again. Costco for example is now up almost $0.20 from a couple of weeks ago. Granted, there is a holiday at play here. Will the price start to come down next Tuesday or Wednesday? Or not?

We are about hit 4 again I’m assuming we have but I don’t see every pump I drive 3.99 was the highest I saw a day ago

 

[MS Sandhu]

Give it to the Iranians they’re faced with overwhelming odds and they’re not following the playbook like Bibi thought they were if anything they’re preparing for far worse situations people say look look they have given up when there a lull in fighting or etc in my head nope there preparing for something bigger seriously Iraqis have gone quiet Hezbollah has gone quiet for the most part it’s pretty damn eerie and it seems like the Houthis are doing some heavy lifting while Iran can say to Saudis oh that’s not us wink wink like it wasn’t you guys who goaded Trump

Iran is quite a resource rich country, and I'm not saying this out of air .
They aren't Afghanistan or something like 3rd world shit country that is already economically in gutters and your economic siege will not have any impact. Iran has still too much to loose economically and its nation is too modern to bear the pain.
That's where US has the opportunity to get something out of Iran Government.

 

[Shags101]

I question some of that person's posts just as I would any other. I refuse to rely on Twitter feeds and PowerPoint presentations to draw my conclusions. Including posts where some are in perpetual orgasm over all the new munitions contracts that have been awarded.

As you know, I come out of a long career in logistics. Prior to that it was manufacturing. I've been consistent since the orgasms started that it will be many months of not years before those contracts are fulfilled due to lack of capacity today. Here's an excellent example I had intended to post last night:

Site Expansions Underpin Lockheed Martin’s Munitions Production Ramp

Branded Content: Bigger sites, advanced manufacturing techniques, and boosting the workforce are key industry commitments to increased munitions production.

www.twz.com

Lockheed-Martin is a huge supplier to the US defense industry. Read the article. You too will see what is missing: how long it will take for that additional capacity to be on line for increased manufacturing.

I can give you a hint: a minimum of 18-24 months. 36 months is not unfeasible.

I had a whole thing about Covid and Americas inability to manufacture simple goods but we can manufacture high facilities overnight and jump production by 1000%

 

[PK781]

I find it somewhat funny and sad that, if you read Raptor's posts, the goal posts seem to subtly shift now that the realization is setting in that this has become a stalemate.

If Iran's will to fight is not broken and broken hard, this will continue to drag for some time to come.

Sir i would give it 2 yrs max, but also depends what happens at the end of this year.
Somehow i'm not very hopeful that any deal is within reach, looks more like WAR will happen with both iran and america financially wrecked.

 

[Shags101]

Iran is quite a resource rich country, and I'm not saying this out of air .
They aren't Afghanistan or something like 3rd world shit country that is already economically in gutters and your economic siege will not have any impact. Iran has still too much to loose economically and its nation is too modern to bear the pain.
That's where US has the opportunity to get something out of Iran Government.

America owes Iran 300 billion dollars I don’t think Iran is Ukraine or Venezuela they’re not buying what Trump is trying to steal