US Perspective on the Iran - Israel / US War

[RescueRanger]

Not much we can do. As long as they are in international waters, even if they were in Pakistani waters there is probably still not much we can do....

And this is the Key part. Some people don't want to understand this...

 

[Ali_Baba]

War is never fair nor on equal footing.

Yes.

And that is why Iran's approach has been so flawed so far with the USA. It has been trying to fight fairly when the USA has not. That has been their mistake. If they have some common sense, and a sense of survival and learnt anything from the last few rounds, then they will need to raise their game in their approach to the US. If they decide to not, then they should actually surrender because they are wasting everyone's time.

 

[RescueRanger]

Yes -

And that is why Iran's approach has been so flawed so far with the USA. It has been trying to fight fairly

Brother... What are we even talking about here.

There is NO such thing as a FAIR fight in WAR. This is not dueling pistols at 10 paces. Please lets get back to discussing facts and not delve into the realm of fiction and romanticism.

Thanks

 

[Ali_Baba]

Not much we can do. As long as they are in international waters, even if they were in Pakistani waters there is probably still not much we can do....

Seeds of mistrust with Iran were done already by Iranians in Yeman...

Yes, Iran is most certainly provoking/encouraging the Houthi's to attack Saudi and yes that forces Pakistan to defend Saudi for a whole suite of reasons. But, here is the counter question, do we think that MBS encourage the USA to attack Iran ? If so, what was the consequence of that for Iran?

There is of course a lot that we don't know.

 

[Yasser76]

Yes, Iran is most certainly provoking/encouraging the Houthi's to attack Saudi and yes that forces Pakistan to defend Saudi for a whole suite of reasons. But, here is the counter question, do we think that MBS encourage the USA to attack Iran ?

Very good point, but if we are being really honest with ourselves, yes apreciate we are mediator and can talk to both Tehran and DC but prior to this Iranians were no saints.
Chahbar, Indian spy, drone of their we shot down then the missile attack on Pakistan as well as BLA hiding there.

I dont want ordainary Iranians to suffer, but if regime and Guards are given a hard slap, weakened and bought down a peg or two will I lose sleep over it? No....

 

[RescueRanger]

Lots of traffic - via Jordan via Egypt FIR headed to EUROCOM via Ankara currently routed Nicosia FIR (Cyprus).

 

[Ali_Baba]

UAE Delegation aboard a Royal Military Flight O/B for Uzbekistan yesterday:
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Now returning home:
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*NB: There is no ATC in Kabul/Afghanistan. The FIR is controlled via Pakistan and Doha hence you see the point of origin of the flight as over Afghanistan.
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Worth keeping an eye in in light of developments in past 48 hours.

Most likely an attempt to coerce/bribe Uzbekistan to try and stop the trainline that carries supplies Iran from China at a guess.

Pakistan has shut its borders, as has Iraq and Türkiye so far. The US is trying to shut all the land borders that Iran has it seems.

Given that Uzbekistan/Turkmenistan/Tajikistan are landlocked countries that rely on Iran over the long run, would be interesting to see if they do anything or not.