US Perspective on the Iran - Israel / US War

[SolarWarden]

At the moment, nothing that I can see. The US buildup continues. The ripple effect here at home already being felt. USPS is imposing delivery surcharges for certain shipments. My own employer is also dealing with surcharges from the airlines as well as the trucking companies. All costs that will be passed on.

With the rise in price of diesel fuel, you can expect to see additional price increases shortly at the grocery stores.

Which is why this needs to be over by next month. If it ends by then you can start seeing the prices be at where they should be by mid summer. However I think another distraction is going to be "disclosed" this summer.

 

[Fatman17]

 

[Serendipity]

Just wondering what the red line would seem like to the US population? I know its always hard to predict, but what level of personal inconvenience do you think would lead to critical mass calling for an end to the war.

 

[brazensword]

The only KPI worth monitoring for the wars Orcs impose on humanity is number of people killed.

They killed a million plus in Iraq, it'll be a loss for them if they manage even half of that.

 

[Davey Crockett]

Just wondering what the red line would seem like to the US population? I know its always hard to predict, but what level of personal inconvenience do you think would lead to critical mass calling for an end to the war.

Major attack of the American electric grid. No power, most Americans will want an end to this because war will affect them personally.

 

[hussain0216]

This war is going to be the biggest defeat in U.S history and the consequences are going to be multiple

You just need to be smart enough to understand

The Zionists have walked the U.S into a trap and it took them decades to get enough Israel firsters and idiots into the white House to do it

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

War is near to it's end , find some other topic to get adrenaline rush .

And who are you to predict that?

 

[Serendipity]

I would request we shy away from broadstrokes predictions based purely on hope. 'This will be Americas biggest defeat' or 'Iran will be bombed to the stone age' or the 'gulf will be an abandoned ruin'. All these are not statements befitting a forum designed for more meaningful analysis.

@Davey Crockett but is there a point of indignation where an attack on home ground pushes public opinion in favour of more extreme measures? Seems like a fine balancing act. And what is the public sentiment regarding the perception that the US was dragged into Israel's war? Especially amongst Republicans?

 

[Ali_Baba]

This needs to be over before May it can't go beyond April if GOP expects to keep both houses.

USA may want it to be over before May, but Israel does not, and I don't think Iran does either. The "enemy" gets a vote once the shooting war starts.

 

[LeGenD]

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Must be an American Leftist take on the topic.

Operation Desert Storm	The US-led forces liberated Kuwait from Iraq (1991)
Operation Iraqi Freedom	The US-led forces carried out regime change in Iraq (2003 - 2011)
Operation Inherent Resolve	The US-led forces crippled the ISIL network in the region (2014 - 2026)

Look at Russian experience in Ukraine: regime change mission failed in 2022 and Russian forces have taken massive losses to hold some Ukrainian lands. American losses in Iraq absolutely pale in comparison because American Air Power is vast and armor is good.

Iran became a regional power after the fall of Saddam regime in Iraq and spent many years developing a massive ballistic missile force and mass producing drones for tactical applications in war. Iranian retaliatory strikes across the Middle East are on a scale never seen before from a regional power in the Middle East. However, the US-Israel duo have conducted a large number of strikes in Iran and delivered painful blows to the Iranian military industrial complex and infrastructure that warrant serious analysis and many in Iran are reluctant to talk about that. Iran have also lost a large number of talented people and leaders in these strikes. None of that is easy to recover from.

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But hardly any focus on that.

 

[_Arabia_]

Is it correct that the US has lost far less assets (let alone soldiers) than during the first 1 month of the Iraq invasion in 2003?

Which is remarkable given the large number of US bases in the region.

Suffice to say that the US mainland is untouched.

As for the economy:

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[Yasser76]

I just dont get what the US will do with any ground operation.

They have no armour and no logistics in depth. An airborne/amphib op to capture and hold ground against we well prepared and dug in enemy.

This has Operation Eagle Claw written all over it but just on a larger more disasterous scale.

Unless the US has some massive surprise hidden up it's sleeve, but the whole area is now being covered by Russian and Chinese Sats....

 

[hussain0216]

I just dont get what the US will do with any ground operation.

They have no armour and no logistics in depth. An airborne/amphib op to capture and hold ground against we well prepared and dug in enemy.

This has Operation Eagle Claw written all over it but just on a larger more disasterous scale.

Unless the US has some massive surprise hidden up it's sleeve, but the whole area is now being covered by Russian and Chinese Sats....

It's just the latest in a range of stupid actions taken by the U.S

 

[LeGenD]

I just dont get what the US will do with any ground operation.

They have no armour and no logistics in depth. An airborne/amphib op to capture and hold ground against we well prepared and dug in enemy.

This has Operation Eagle Claw written all over it but just on a larger more disasterous scale.

Unless the US has some massive surprise hidden up it's sleeve, but the whole area is now being covered by Russian and Chinese Sats....

They are using Air Power, artillery systems and drones to attack Iranian defenses and military infrastructure across the Strait of Hormuz and deep inside Iran since Feb 28. They will use all that to attack Iranian defenses in any area where American troops will be used to conduct a raid. This is not rocket science, bro.

This isn't Operation Eagle Claw.

 

[F-22Raptor]

This war is going to be the biggest defeat in U.S history and the consequences are going to be multiple

You just need to be smart enough to understand

The Zionists have walked the U.S into a trap and it took them decades to get enough Israel firsters and idiots into the white House to do it

This war is the most dominant display of US airpower ever, exceeding that of Desert Storm. The military was given a clear set of objectives and they’ve executed them almost flawlessly.

Regime change has never been cited as a primary objective of this war. President Trump stated clearly on Feb 28 that regime change was contingent on the Iranian people rising up. With that said, many Iranian leaders are dead and the others are hiding in holes. Its military and 70% of its missile/drone/naval production facilities are destroyed. This is the weakest the Iranian regime has ever been.

As for the Strait, that’s temporary and the war isn’t over. If Iran loses control of that, most of the little leverage it has is gone.