US Perspective on the Iran - Israel / US War

mythbuster said:
You are a closet trumpy , not a surprise 🫢
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No, I'm a realist. The US has the REE it needs. In fact, we ship quite a bit of the mined ore to China for processing.

Over the years, environmentalists backed by friendly administrations and courts have succeeded in stopping further development of REE mining as well as processing of the ores.

We've done this to ourselves.
 
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SolarWarden said:
Just stop with the tacos. Was he taco when he first struck Iran last year? Was he taco when he did a month-long bombing campaign on Iran? He's not taco he really doesn't want to take the gloves off which bombing part 2 will be but that doesn't mean that he won't do it. You can call Orangeman a lot of things but taco aint one of them.
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Dude, his striking Iran last year was the EXACT definition of TACO, because either he chicken out on "destruction" of Iran's nuclear capability like he said he will do and had done last year, or we are to believe we destroyed Iran's nuclear capability, but they were somehow able to rebuild it to a point we think that was a threat in just 6 months.
 
RescueRanger said:
Well security lockdown in Islamabad is still in effect.
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Brother, no sense in locking down the twin cities when this could've been held on an air base like Nur Khan, with ample security already in place. No point in having this disruption.
 
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EugeneP said:
It may be inconvenient if Iranian government runs out of money (due to blockade).
This is Iranian money now.
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They may run out of room to add zeroes.
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The issue is not whether or not Iran economy will be broken, the issue here is who can hold on longer, economy does not break down overnight, it takes some time to do it, and you also have buffered economy, look at Russia for example, if we applies Russian economy policy in the US, our government would collapse in probably no more than 12 months, yet they held on for 5 years between 12 to 14.5% national interest rate, mostly because Russia had an Iron grip on their people and they have ways to bypass Sanction.

Iran won't have that, but it still doesn't mean they will collapse overnight. Any economic impact on Iran will be felt in the mid- to long term, which means you have to wait a few months before it starts hitting the streets. Do we have a few months to wait? Bear in mind, Summer is around the corner, and we have a mid-term in 6 months plus change.

And that is if we assume China won't bankroll Iran's war like the EU bankrolling Ukraine. At this moment, China is doing nothing, but it can change, and most likely will change in the mid-course.
 
j_hungary said:
The issue is not whether or not Iran economy will be broken, the issue here is who can hold on longer, economy does not break down overnight, it takes some time to do it, and you also have buffered economy, look at Russia for example, if we applies Russian economy policy in the US, our government would collapse in probably no more than 12 months, yet they held on for 5 years between 12 to 14.5% national interest rate, mostly because Russia had an Iron grip on their people and they have ways to bypass Sanction.

Iran won't have that, but it still doesn't mean they will collapse overnight. Any economic impact on Iran will be felt in the mid- to long term, which means you have to wait a few months before it starts hitting the streets. Do we have a few months to wait? Bear in mind, Summer is around the corner, and we have a mid-term in 6 months plus change.

And that is if we assume China won't bankroll Iran's war like the EU bankrolling Ukraine. At this moment, China is doing nothing, but it can change, and most likely will change in the mid-course.
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I could see the Chinese importing oil from the Northern route to relieve pressure on the Iranian economy. As for funding Iran, that would more so happen if the U.S. does a land invasion and gets entangled; even then, China could still be on the wall.

By next month, the impact should start being felt in American pockets, so let's see how it goes, as the Asian supply chain is impacted, and export numbers will be an interesting read.
 
PakFactor said:
I could see the Chinese importing oil from the Northern route to relieve pressure on the Iranian economy. As for funding Iran, that would more so happen if the U.S. does a land invasion and gets entangled; even then, China could still be on the wall.

By next month, the impact should start being felt in American pockets, so let's see how it goes, as the Asian supply chain is impacted, and export numbers will be an interesting read.
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The tramps of both camps are waiting for the Godot to come and destroy other camp's finances and economy.....
 
mythbuster said:
The tramps of both camps are waiting for the Godot to come and destroy other camp's finances and economy.....
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It's always been that way. The only change is the play's characters. Godot, in this play, doesn't expend energy. :)
 
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Because the Iranians know their economy is cooked
 
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