US Perspective on the Iran - Israel / US War

KAL-EL said:
Like others would love to have this war over with. But I've seen so many roller coaster ups and downs I don't know what the hell to think
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What this war against Iran has done, is exposed the limitations of Israel's military power and both Türkiye and Egypt will be learning a lot of lessons from this. Israel can fight for 3-4 weeks at most, after which its ability to fight war against Iran decreases massively. Last time Israel managed 12 days, this time it lasted a bit longer. While airpower is more powerful than missiles in terms of "bombs on target" and "destructive power", it is limited by pilots factors where as missiles have a longer persistence window. Israel cannot take away Iran's missile power. The vast majority of bases are back to operation already, none of them were penetrated, only entrances closed with very very expensive munitions.

Israel has learnt it simply cannot take on and beat Iran on her own, it needs the US to do it and even the US has limitations as demonstrated in this war. We will find out in time, how much of what the USA thinks it has destroyed in Iran, turns out to be true and how much was decoys, and how much of it was empty buildings! I would take the dollar value of damage done in Iran right now, with a pinch(large) of salt.

I do personally think it is over as there is nothing new that Israel and USA can do now, that they have not tried to do before. The target bank is empty and what is left, is more war crimes only. USA/Israeli military tactics and plans have run out of choices options and Iran's clock is working in Iran's advantage now.

UAE has already waved the white flag of surrender by giving Iran's money back to Iran to not bomb it any further. The appetite for more war by the PGCC is not there anymore.

The only thing left now is how much horse trading there is to be done, and how much of the USA's strategic oil reserves get used up in that horse trading for the final deal.

( imho ! ).
 

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Very interesting video, in particular the use by Iran of psychologists in Iran to understand what is going on with Trumps dementia ridden brain and how to structure their narrative in light of that, which worked and then the MOU progressed successfully.
 
Ali_Baba said:
even the US has limitations as demonstrated in this war. We will find out in time, how much of what the USA thinks it has destroyed in Iran, turns out to be true and how much was decoys, and how much of it was empty buildings! I would take the dollar value of damage done in Iran right now, with a pinch(large) of salt.
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That is a fair assessment. Everyone has limitations, and everyone will be analyzing this war for a long time to come, to learn, and apply, any lessons as may apply to their own situations.

For now, cessation of hostilities, and easing the adverse pressures building up in the global economy, as well as within Iran and USA, are important, but we all must wait for the final, signed agreements, to see how the situation is likely to evolve for the region itself.

What is clear that much will change. A lot.
 
Ali_Baba said:
What this war against Iran has done, is exposed the limitations of Israel's military power and both Türkiye and Egypt will be learning a lot of lessons from this. Israel can fight for 3-4 weeks at most, after which its ability to fight war against Iran decreases massively. Last time Israel managed 12 days, this time it lasted a bit longer. While airpower is more powerful than missiles in terms of "bombs on target" and "destructive power", it is limited by pilots factors where as missiles have a longer persistence window. Israel cannot take away Iran's missile power. The vast majority of bases are back to operation already, none of them were penetrated, only entrances closed with very very expensive munitions.

Israel has learnt it simply cannot take on and beat Iran on her own, it needs the US to do it and even the US has limitations as demonstrated in this war. We will find out in time, how much of what the USA thinks it has destroyed in Iran, turns out to be true and how much was decoys, and how much of it was empty buildings! I would take the dollar value of damage done in Iran right now, with a pinch(large) of salt.

I do personally think it is over as there is nothing new that Israel and USA can do now, that they have not tried to do before. The target bank is empty and what is left, is more war crimes only. USA/Israeli military tactics and plans have run out of choices options and Iran's clock is working in Iran's advantage now.

UAE has already waved the white flag of surrender by giving Iran's money back to Iran to not bomb it any further. The appetite for more war by the PGCC is not there anymore.

The only thing left now is how much horse trading there is to be done, and how much of the USA's strategic oil reserves get used up in that horse trading for the final deal.

( imho ! ).
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The US achieved ALL of its military objectives.
As for the missile cities, the US never attempted to destroy them, just suppress them and seal off entrances. Stockpiles of GBU-57s aren’t large enough to destroy all of them and have enough leftover for other contingencies. The US did successfully suppress them, as Irans firing rate had dropped into the 10-20s per day.
 
F-22Raptor said:
The US achieved ALL of its military objectives.
As for the missile cities, the US never attempted to destroy them, just suppress them and seal off entrances. Stockpiles of GBU-57s aren’t large enough to destroy all of them and have enough leftover for other contingencies. The US did successfully suppress them, as Irans firing rate had dropped into the 10-20s per day.
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Also critics can't say the deal is the same as 2015 JCPOA this new deal is way stricter.

Something happened in those strikes that got Iran to get moving quickly maybe US hit a target that IRGC thought US didn't know about which probably convinced them it's time to please Orangeman.

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If there is a signing in coming days the Cuban leadership are going to start sweating as all eyes from Orangeman focus on them.
 
AZ_HighCountry said:
Dubious source.
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Even if that's real, it ain't doing much. There were 20 million barrels a day coming out of the gulf (Which we are way past 100 days of the strait being closed), even 7 million flowed out yesterday, it's not going to make a dent in the 2 billion+ barrels we were lacking since Feb 28.
 
j_hungary said:
Even if that's real, it ain't doing much. There were 20 million barrels a day coming out of the gulf (Which we are way past 100 days of the strait being closed), even 7 million flowed out yesterday, it's not going to make a dent in the 2 billion+ barrels we were lacking since Feb 28.
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Correct. The damage is done.

Mission accomplished.
 
F-22Raptor said:
The US achieved ALL of its military objectives.
As for the missile cities, the US never attempted to destroy them, just suppress them and seal off entrances. Stockpiles of GBU-57s aren’t large enough to destroy all of them and have enough leftover for other contingencies. The US did successfully suppress them, as Irans firing rate had dropped into the 10-20s per day.
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Wow......that reads much like the copium you accuse others of in the primary thread.
 
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