US Perspective on the Iran - Israel / US War

[F-22Raptor]

Those are only material losses.

What is still left unchanged are the same 90 million highly educated and motivated people who see no reason to soften their hard line stance.

This is clearly not the end of anything in its present form, geopolitically speaking.

Irans economy is now in a worse spot than it was when protests broke out in January when they murdered 40K Iranians.
Iran and its proxies are in the weakest position they’ve ever been in.

Nothing is over, but geopolitical power is relative. Iran is far weaker today than prior to the war.

 

[VCheng]

Iran is far weaker today than prior to the war.

Yes, but then again, USA is no stronger than what it was before the war, either.

The shockwave is still traveling within its bigger economy and the full ramifications are yet to become visible.

 

[Fatman17]

 

[F-22Raptor]

No you are in virtual reality

Off top of my head

Regime change - failure

Destroying Irans missile and drone capability- still not known but US intelligence saying drones capability back up in months

Securing HEU - failure

Stopping Iran from supporting axis of resistance- failure

Letting Gulf allies get walloped and losing so many air defence radars - failure

This operation a complete failure

Irans economy pre-war was already cooked, so if hitting 600 schools and hospitals and carrying out other warcrimes makes you feel better i can't help that.

Iran controlled 90% of SOH, il give trump the 10% he was bragging about, his been so desperate to open the strait.

Brent dropping to 80 is because of the deal, had war carried on or SOH stayed shut over june/July its not the Brent price people would be worrying about It's the strategic petroleum reserves.

US and Israel failed miserably, this has had a big economic effect on Iran but everything else they can recover. If sanctions are lifted and assets unfrozen Iran will rebuild very quickly.

- Again with regime change? It was never a priority. We were never going in Saddam style. The precedent was the Maduro operation. Kill the top leaders and the rest will do our bidding.

- Irans missile and drone industrial base are destroyed. Half its ballistic missiles depleted, over half its drones. Its C&C is degraded to the point where it can fire only 10-20s missiles per day.

- The HEU is buried, and MoU leaks state that has to be secured and destroyed, otherwise Iran gets nothing in return. Any unfreezing of funds or sanctions relief are based on Irans concessions.

- Irans proxies are destroyed, and Iran has little capability to fund and rearm them.

- The US and Gulf nations intercepted 1,700+ drones and missiles. The US is still operating out of Gulf bases. Losses were minimal overall

 

[F-22Raptor]

Yes, but then again, USA is no stronger than what it was before the war, either.

The shockwave is still traveling within its bigger economy and the full ramifications are yet to become visible.

It actually is stronger. Growth is booming, stocks are higher today than before the war, energy exports at record highs. $1.5T defense budget submitted with critical munitions production going orbital. Hell, we sent humans around the Moon while Iranian ships were getting smashed to the ocean floor. The US is graded on the anti curve 100%.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

It actually is stronger. Growth is booming, stocks are higher today than before the war, energy exports at record highs. $1.5T defense budget submitted with critical munitions production going orbital. Hell, we sent humans around the Moon while Iranian ships were getting smashed to the ocean floor. The US is graded on the anti curve 100%.

Critical munitions production are not going orbital. I know people who work at some of those companies. They say differently.

Stop with the exaggerations of production capability.

 

[lightning f57]

Again with regime change? It was never a priority. We were never going in Saddam style. The precedent was the Maduro operation. Kill the top leaders and the rest will do our bidding.

your president keeps bragging about regime change, but the idiots replaced doves with hawks. Regime change was top priority that's why trump admitted to funding weapons for the kurds who didn't turn up to fight, they went after all leadership and trump asked people of Iran to take their chance, you got to be really stupid to not see this was a regime change op, just as yahu wanted.

- Irans missile and drone industrial base are destroyed. Half its ballistic missiles depleted, over half its drones. Its C&C is degraded to the point where it can fire only 10-20s missiles per day.

Your intelligence services say otherwise, you got zero proof their industrial base is completely destroyed and their missile stocks depleted. Last I saw they destroyed some more US radars, aircraft hangers and buildings in Israel.

The HEU is buried, and MoU leaks state that has to be secured and destroyed, otherwise Iran gets nothing in return. Any unfreezing of funds or sanctions relief are based on Irans concessions.

MOU is unknown right now, people keep thinking HEU, what about the other 8 tons enriched Uranium. Iran has access to that so a big US failure.

Irans proxies are destroyed, and Iran has little capability to fund and rearm them.

Destroyed so much that Houthis still firing drones and BMs at Israel and Hezbollah smoking IDF virtually daily now.

The US and Gulf nations intercepted 1,700+ drones and missiles. The US is still operating out of Gulf bases. Losses were minimal overall

Those bases are in very bad shape and provide Iran nice target to hit if the US attacks Iran. The gulfies have seen US cant protect them.

US victory would be what happened in Venezuela, US puppet installed, control over oil and no missile drone threat to any countries in the region.

Destroying a non exististant navy,airforce which posed no threat to Its neigbours is no victory.

 

[F-22Raptor]

Critical munitions production are not going orbital. I know people who work at some of those companies. They say differently.

Stop with the exaggerations of production capability.

Contracted munitions deals say otherwise

 

[F-22Raptor]

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Yep, Irans Hormuz card was a total failure

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Contracted munitions deals say otherwise

Contracted and actual deliveries are two different things. Not that you would understand that.

As I said, I know people who work at those companies. You read Twitter post.

 

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Yep, Irans Hormuz card was a total failure

Yet Blas offers no analysis as to why.

He was also the same individual crowing that fertilizer prices are now back to pre-conflict levels. That doesn't help the US farmer now.

 

[F-22Raptor]

Contracted and actual deliveries are two different things. Not that you would understand that.

As I said, I know people who work at those companies. You read Twitter post.

To be more specific, it’s soon to be. It’s obvious where the critical munitions trajectory is headed though. The AF Sec stated recently the Air Force is procuring 39,000 missiles over the FYDP. Thats just the AF.

 

[Watandar]

I hope the gas prices that had sky-rocketed due to this un-necessary and dumb war come back down to reasonable rates. Hundreds of extra dollars per month wasted by households thanks to the President Orange.

 

[VCheng]

Yet Blas offers no analysis as to why.

He was also the same individual crowing that fertilizer prices are now back to pre-conflict levels. That doesn't help the US farmer now.

My personal view is formed with everyday prices. Just check out gas, hone energy and food prices, especially beef. The extra costs here will need to be saved elsewhere in the household budget, so there will be a corresponding decrease in the money spent on something else - repairs, vacation, gifts, whatever.

Multiply that by millions of households and the real shock to the economic system has yet to become apparent.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

I hope the gas prices that had sky-rocketed due to this un-necessary and dumb war come back down to reasonable rates. Hundreds of extra dollars per month wasted by households thanks to the President Orange.

What would be a reasonable rate? $3 per gallon? $2.50+/- as it was at the end of Trump's first term?

The damage is done. If what US oil executives have been saying the past few weeks is true, gasoline prices will only get worse before they get better.

Last week was the first week since Nov. where the weekly inventory was higher than the prior week. US EIA updates its numbers every Tuesday afternoon US East Coast time. I will be looking that evening for Wednesday morning to see what the current inventory levels are.