US Perspective on the Iran - Israel / US War
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The SC
INT'L MOD
You can't just say stop sir to the US while many of their contractors are being killed doing maintenance work for the US weapons bought by GCC..Those are contracts on the long term.. and hose soldiers are mainly technicians not combatants..
I'm yet to see any relevant real report about that..you have too many speculations coming from right and left..
RescueRanger
Meme Lord
The "President of the United States" has stated he is looking at strategic options for a far wider strike package than seen previously even the ones we say at the start of the conflict.
Now looking beyond the bluster, the signals are all pointing towards a far larger surge compared to Epic Fury. From coronets headed east the US has forward deployed F22s, F18s, F35, F15s and F16s (F16s in particular - specially equipped with SEAD and sniper pods).
Further to this, compared to the past 9 days of strikes, the US has gained approval of the UK govt to use strategic sovereign UK air bases for the positioning and operation of US Long Range bombers including the B1s and B52s, these bases on their own may not be seen as a remarkable development, however when see as part of the whole tactical picture:
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The size, scale and scope of this deployment is incredibly alarming.
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Now looking beyond the bluster, the signals are all pointing towards a far larger surge compared to Epic Fury. From coronets headed east the US has forward deployed F22s, F18s, F35, F15s and F16s (F16s in particular - specially equipped with SEAD and sniper pods).
Further to this, compared to the past 9 days of strikes, the US has gained approval of the UK govt to use strategic sovereign UK air bases for the positioning and operation of US Long Range bombers including the B1s and B52s, these bases on their own may not be seen as a remarkable development, however when see as part of the whole tactical picture:
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The size, scale and scope of this deployment is incredibly alarming.
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RescueRanger
Meme Lord
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On July 17th the Iranian Government released footage of what they claimed was a downed Raven drone:
Only July 19th the Iranian government has claimed shooting down of what they allege to be a Tiguar-C (incorrectly identified as the military variant is the Tiguar-M):
If these claims are true, I have no way to verify or disprove them, then this indeed indicates that US SOCCENT are already engaged in deep remote recon inside Iran and acting as forward observers.
RescueRanger
Meme Lord
- Source: WSJ
This figure of 1.15 trillion US dollars is as per my limited knowledge for the budget of the Pentagon, the total cost demand request from Trump for the Iran war is estimated to be 2.5% of this budget. Obviously 1.15 trillion is an eye watering number, however what we are missing from this are the nuts and bolts and the usual line items that have already been factored into the above.
Now watching this clip featuring Stef Knight from Axios on a traditionally conservative FOX news;
There is ‘uneasiness’ on Capitol Hill over US-Iran war: Axios reporter | Fox News Video
Axios political reporter Stef Kight discusses growing unease on Capitol Hill as the conflict with Iran escalates and pressure mounts for a stronger U.S. response on ‘Special Report.’
www.foxnews.com
The fact that there is mention of "unease at Capitol hill on the cost of the war" - now from my perspective being a third party to this conflict - looking at the size, scale of cost of the deployment the main question to ask here is how much longer will congress keep signing the cheque?
Thank you for humoring my question and if I have made any presumptions - I apologies for my ignorance in advance.
BigMela2onin
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Forever . .
F-22Raptor
Elite Member
It’s unsustainable for Iran, they’re getting degraded 100X over. A while they’ve inflicted base infrastructure damage, they’ve had no real effect on US military operational tempo.
Starlord
Trusted Member
It seems like US is preparing for one final push to broke Iranian resolve, there isn't much for America to lose here besides some assets and few soldiers, but if they really do unleash hell and after that seek peace then all major objectives will be pretty much accomplished, Iran has taken one hell of a beating and now their victory is just survival while Israel via America may not try to push Iranians back decades in terms of military development, there won't be another Trump for sometime so Israel can sit back and wait while Iran rebuilds and they make their next moves in US politics, Arabs as always are clueless in all of that, they are just picking up pieces. But they did show some hell of a restraint which is definitely comendable.
Israel's next elections are in Octuber, and American mid-terms in Novemeber, basically they have 3-4 months before things get bit tougher, Bibi will try to win the election and he wants a big win to take home, not to say that the next PM of Israel will be any less of a blood thirsty Genocidal lunatic but with Bibi Gone and Republicans lose mid-terms will put some pressure on these warmongers. In my opinion Iran is already set back few decades, and it will take years for them to rebuild all the damaged bases, industries while also solidifying the internal security issues. But the situation is so messy now that even if Iran offers that they are not going to build a nuclear weapon it will not stop the war, because it was never about that in the first place, Iran and its proxies are pretty weak now and Hezbullah are bracing for either another round of IDF strikes or Syrian leader is waiting to settle some scores, Houthies once the war with Iran is over will get pounded again by the Arab forces, they can't do much as Houthies have shown massive resiliant to air strikes and Arabs are terrible at fighting besides flying American made jets and dropping bombs from distance.
It feels like that world has no learned any lesson from the WW2 debacle, where few men like Hitler/Stalin can drive the world into total chaos setting back world progression by decades, today we have leaders like Trump and Bibi who are maniacs and their ego's and hunger for power have driven them mad, so much so that they have lost all sense of humanity and human suffering, Bibi who is (I'm sure) mentally ill at this point, he is driven solely by hate and some doomsday prophcies, I won't be surprised if he is dying from some terminal sickness and he decided to change the map/future of middle east and take that to his grave which in his own mind is doing service to Judaism or its alleged Messiah. For that he (bibi) will not stop at anything, specially when he is surrounded by ministers like Smotrich and Ben Gavir, who are same crazy lunatic zionists motivated by doomsday messianic prophecies.
My biggest complain is with the educated Americans and Europeans, who have studied/research and talk about human rights for all all their lives, and the journalists who listen to white house briefings and have Israeli's on their channels and just let them say their BS without cross questioning them, all we get is snile two faced scums like Piers morgan and others who pretend to be nuetral to gain views from both sides, Its beyond unbelieveable how the entire Western civilization has thrown their own moral values under the bus just so they satisfy the hunger for a illegal satellite colony's apetite for war and expansionism, we say/curse Pakistan's double standards and sell out leaders but seeing and observing the bahavior of American politicians and Europeans, I am like damnnnn they even surpass even Pakistani sellouts. At least Pakistani's leaders motivation is money and power in their own districts or cities or states, but these EU/American leaders despite living in some of the best countries, acess to best life style, all comforts of life, money/jobs still decided to be so openly hyprocitical and two faced, and carry so much hate/despise for a group of people that they are willing to wait out the death of 30-40k kids (including in Gaza/All of Palestine, Lebanon/Iran/Yemen) etc.
Don't even get me started on the Arabs, because this is not the thread for it, but all I can say what Rasool Allah used to say, Woe to Arabs... he never fear poverty for his people but what he fears and rightly so that the gates of luxuries and comfort will be open to his nation which will turn his nation into something that even he would not recognize.
May Allah's silent lathi (stick) for once become not so silent, for all those who deserve it.
Avicenna
Trusted Member
How is any of this in the interest of the United States?
This war is being fought for another nation.
Shameful.
F-22Raptor
Elite Member
RescueRanger
Meme Lord
Fair, I can understand why you would say that being American you naturally have allegiance to your country and its objectives and national interest, but as a person, I would like to get to know your perspective, not CENTCOM tweets, not Trump but you, the person behind the username F-22 Raptor.
I would be most obliged if you would entertain a few questions from me, and you can be as frank as you want, I am just trying to get a handle on how the American posters on PDF view this war domestically.
What challenges have you faced if any economically or socially throughout this conflict?
How do you see the current administration's handling of the war?
Do you feel that this war has fit into the mantra of America first?
What do you think worked well and what could have been handled better?
How if in anyway has the war impacted your daily life in the US i.e. cost of living, fuel, food, travel etc?
Do you feel America is safer now than before the conflict?
Lastly, what are your concerns, and hopes for the US and its role globally going forward?
Thank you once again for humoring me. I just think these questions should have been asked of US citizens here to make this more about "US perspectives" rather than just sharing news articles and tweets.
The SC
INT'L MOD
Speculations..that is how those news were made..Soooooo Wall Street journal cnn New York Times cnn Fox News and god knows what else news agencies isn’t good enough for you I guess you get your legit honest never tell lies Al arabiya it’s like telling me Press TV reports honest newsseriously I’m going to stop derailing the “American perspective” I have to tag these two numbskulls @F-22Raptor @SolarWarden come on do some one sided reporting please
Avicenna
Trusted Member
I can tell you co-workers of mine who are MAGA Trumpers want no part of this.
They have seen the lies.
And they understand who is running the show.
In one instance this guy is a vet and comes from a military family with a son in the US Army now.
He is not pleased and fears for his kid.
The sad part is they are resigned to the fact there is nothing they can do about it.
Shags101
Trusted Member
Sometimes differences of opinion can’t be helped night
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