US Perspective on the Iran - Israel / US War

[KAL-EL]

Anyone surprised that the invincible Iranian Navy didn't stop the USN or the UK-led multinational mine-clearing operation?

Nope.. not surprised

 

[KingQamaR]

Happy to see there are no talks ongoing with the Iranians. Best course of action is to economically strangle the Iranians under full naval blockade.

Vast majority of Iranian military targets have already been hit, and the US can always “mow the lawn” whenever it sees fit. The Iranians have little capability to counter US air and naval power.

Iranian nuclear industry is largely destroyed and HEU buried and under 24/7 watch.

If Iran is not already a failed state, it’s well on that trajectory.

How exactly did the US win the war? The US military had 3 strategic goals: 1) The elimination of Iran's Nuclear Program, 2) The elimination of Iran's Ballistic Missile Program and 3) Regime Change.
The US not only failed to achieve the goals proclaimed by itself but it failed to achieve the new goal set by it's own failure, the opening of the Straight of Hormuz. The "World's Most Powerful Navy" failed to open a single Straight....

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Happy to see there are no talks ongoing with the Iranians. Best course of action is to economically strangle the Iranians under full naval blockade.

Vast majority of Iranian military targets have already been hit, and the US can always “mow the lawn” whenever it sees fit. The Iranians have little capability to counter US air and naval power.

Iranian nuclear industry is largely destroyed and HEU buried and under 24/7 watch.

If Iran is not already a failed state, it’s well on that trajectory.

It's not hard to see you fail to understand the long term implications of the manner in which this conflict is being handled.

 

[The SC]

US President Donald Trump confirms that there are no ongoing or scheduled negotiations with Iran and that the naval blockade continues

Trump says that the Strait of Hormuz is open and operating normally

The American President stresses that the naval blockade on Iran is strong and effective

 

[The SC]

Trump:

Iran is in big trouble, it is in a state of chaos, and its army has been completely defeated

Iran is not in the process of concluding the agreement, which I believe is necessary

Iran wants to reach an agreement and we are there for one reason, which is to prevent them from possessing a nuclear weapon

Iran cannot and will never possess a nuclear weapon

Iran’s development of a nuclear weapon will take a long time after the strikes we carried out last summer on its nuclear facilities.

We control the Strait of Hormuz through a naval blockade, and I like the idea of declaring it an American territory.

 

[F-22Raptor]

How exactly did the US win the war? The US military had 3 strategic goals: 1) The elimination of Iran's Nuclear Program, 2) The elimination of Iran's Ballistic Missile Program and 3) Regime Change.
The US not only failed to achieve the goals proclaimed by itself but it failed to achieve the new goal set by it's own failure, the opening of the Straight of Hormuz. The "World's Most Powerful Navy" failed to open a single Straight....

1. Irans nuclear industry is largely destroyed and HEU buried so deep Iran can’t access it. An that site is monitored 24/7 by US intelligence

2. Irans ballistic missile production facilities are also largely destroyed. Irans missile sites were suppressed to the point where they were firing only 5-10 missiles per day for weeks. Only way to eliminate that further is to send ground troops into those sites or nuke them. You couldn’t suppress them any more by air power alone.

3. Regime change was never a primary objective, and why Trump stated on Feb 28 it was up to Iranian citizens to decide. We decapitated top leadership in the hopes the next tier was willing to work with us. The Maduro operation was the precedent. The problem is the pragmatic faction we were negotiating with doesn’t control the military. Thats the IRGC, so you have multiple factions to deal with. Either way, historically it takes years to overthrow Middle Eastern regimes. Iran is economically strangled. Regime change has been set in motion, even if that’s years down the line.

 

[Agnostic Muslim]

Maybe renounce spreading its Terror Tentacles or surrender as opposed to being nuked?

Sure, right after the US Govt renounces ‘spreading its terror tentacles’ across the world, overthrowing governments, installing fascist autocrats/regimes … oh wait, this unprovoked war against Iran is itself an example of the US ‘spreading its terror tentacles across the globe’.

Oh, and threats of ‘nuking Iran’ and ‘ending it’s civilization’ … it’s pretty clear which combatant is ‘the Dark Side’.

 

[Persian Gulf]

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[Shags101]

US President Donald Trump confirms that there are no ongoing or scheduled negotiations with Iran and that the naval blockade continues

Trump says that the Strait of Hormuz is open and operating normally

The American President stresses that the naval blockade on Iran is strong and effective

So confused they say they’re negotiating supposedly 5 seconds before with irgc leaders(Iran denies it adamantly)than 5 seconds later they deny there was any negotiations or speaking to the other side really easy to disprove the other side just release these imaginary conversations that never happened

 

[Shags101]

Sure, right after the US Govt renounces ‘spreading its terror tentacles’ across the world, overthrowing governments, installing fascist autocrats/regimes … oh wait, this unprovoked war against Iran is itself an example of the US ‘spreading its terror tentacles across the globe’.

Oh, and threats of ‘nuking Iran’ and ‘ending it’s civilization’ … it’s pretty clear which combatant is ‘the Dark Side’.

Israel has committed true atrocities in Palestine and Iran is the bad guy agree or disagree with the crackdown on protestors just before the run up to the Iran war we can agree now that there were many armed terrorists mixed with peaceful protestors which was a result of Mossad and trumps now incompetent cia arming those folks and yes we can nearly all agree Trump keeps inflating the numbers of death last count 52 thousand

 

[Pakistani Dragon]

Sure, right after the US Govt renounces ‘spreading its terror tentacles’ across the world, overthrowing governments, installing fascist autocrats/regimes … oh wait, this unprovoked war against Iran is itself an example of the US ‘spreading its terror tentacles across the globe’.

Oh, and threats of ‘nuking Iran’ and ‘ending it’s civilization’ … it’s pretty clear which combatant is ‘the Dark Side’.

Fine then.

Iran can carry on fighting the US and Israel—nobody is holding them back—try to continue spreading its Terror Tentacles in the Arab World, and Iranians living in the West can perhaps also return to their motherland, Persia, and fight alongside their compatriots.

While we're at it, maybe non-Iranians with such a strong passion for the IRGC's fanaticism can also renounce their nationalities and apply for Iranian citizenship.

 

[Agnostic Muslim]

Fine then.

Iran can carry on fighting the US and Israel—nobody is holding them back—try to continue spreading its Terror Tentacles in the Arab World, and Iranians living in the West can perhaps also return to their motherland, Persia, and fight alongside their compatriots.

While we're at it, maybe non-Iranians with such a strong passion for the IRGC's fanaticism can also renounce their nationalities and apply for Iranian citizenship.

Ah yes, the last resort of the troll left with no space to dissemble - ‘go back to your country, go get XYZ citizenship, go blah blah blah’

How about you actually try to refute the arguments, assuming your Gulfie or Fauji paymasters let you do so.