US Perspective on the Iran - Israel / US War

[Flotilla]

What do you think China would do if it takes US position in middle east?

Selling weapons and intelligence services, rebuilding military infraestructure destroyed by Irán and using diplomacy for avoiding a clean and plain mistake that was this stupid israelí promoted war.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Come on dude - this is the USA. Laws don't matter !!!! We have seen this. Might is right when it comes to the USA, both internally with its own "laws" and "externally".. Massie might as well spend his last few weeks in government pissing up wind, as that will be far more productive and useful !

I'm wondering if Lauren Boebert has any staff openings.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Wall Street Journal:
Trump rejects Iran's ceasefire proposal
Trump expects renewed bombing of Iran after midterm elections

@AlArabiya_Brk

Why wait?

He's pretty much admitted privately the midterms will not go well for the Republicans.

 

[Shags202]

Why wait?

He's pretty much admitted privately the midterms will not go well for the Republicans.

No he’s been open about it he will say they twisted his words if people remember this line and what the hell is punch bowl news
“They’re angry at Republicans,” Trump said in an interview with Punchbowl News that aired Friday. “But they’re not angry at me. They’re not angry at me, but they are angry at Republicans.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2026/08/07/trump-midterms-voter-anger-01028681

Maybe why he banned politico

 

[Pakistani Dragon]

Trump threatens Iran with annihilation at the United Nations: I am now facing a big decision: Should I make a deal with Iran, or exterminate the Islamic Republic of Iran, and do so quickly? Should I drive them to hell? With no chance of survival and no hope of future greatness?

Can't believe even the Iranian diplomat turned up and sat there like a muppet listening to Donald Trump threatening his country with annihilation.

Instead of walking out, the Iranian diplomat sat there listening to Donald Trump even though they have no diplomatic relations with the US.

 

[Davey Crockett]

 

[Americano]

Let me re-iterate as your making assumptions on what I wrote, I said AC are white elephants v peers.

flaming sword of vengeance against much weaker nations is nothing to brag about.

Explain to me why China is furiously building as many aircraft carriers as they can, within their technological limits. And carrier based fighters. And supporting ships.

 

[Americano]

No, they are building for same reason the US has them for power projection against nations which are not peers.

All right, then.

Your position is that A/Cs are white elephants against peers.

Which is irrelevant to the USN, as the USN has no peers.

And when CHina has a few CBGs, they too will have no peers (apart from the USN.)

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

All right, then.

Your position is that A/Cs are white elephants against peers.

Which is irrelevant to the USN, as the USN has no peers.

And when CHina has a few CBGs, they too will have no peers (apart from the USN.)

Even then, it will be years before the Chinese Navy is a peer of the United States when it comes to carrier operations.

 

[lightning f57]

All right, then.

Your position is that A/Cs are white elephants against peers.

Which is irrelevant to the USN, as the USN has no peers.

And when CHina has a few CBGs, they too will have no peers (apart from the USN.)

To avoid massively going off topic, my last post on this topic. I would say the USN does have peers, Russia and China in their own backyard can take on the USN. You could argue Russias war with Ukraine has effectively ended that for now, but the Chinese have the ability to sink US carriers.

 

[Ali_Baba]

To avoid massively going off topic, my last post on this topic. I would say the USN does have peers, Russia and China in their own backyard can take on the USN. You could argue Russias war with Ukraine has effectively ended that for now, but the Chinese have the ability to sink US carriers.

It is certainly possible to disable an A/C and take it out of the combat theatre, but actually trying to "sink" one is very difficult as demonstrated during SINKEX exercises of trying to sink USS America(CV-66) in 2005.

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/us-navy-tried-intentionally-scuttle-its-own-aircraft-carrier-and-failed-207493

Here’s why it Took four Weeks to Scuttle USS America, the Only Supercarrier Ever Sunk

Here’s why it Took 4 Weeks to Scuttle USS America, the Only SuperCarrier Sunk. On Apr. 19, 2005, America left on its final mission

theaviationgeekclub.com

The US Navy Spent Nearly Four Weeks Trying to Sink Its Own Aircraft Carrier. That Was the Point.

The Navy sank the retired USS America on purpose in 2005, roughly 250 miles off the East Coast, to learn how much punishment a supercarrier absorbs before going down. It took nearly four weeks of bombs, missiles and underwater blasts.

www.19fortyfive.com

 

[The SC]

️ I am constantly considering resuming strikes on Iran - Trump

I expect U.S. negotiators to hold further talks with Iran this week.

The U.S. military is facilitating the passage of large quantities of oil through the Strait of Hormuz.

The largest amount of oil has passed through the Strait of Hormuz over the weekend since the start of the war.

Iran has overestimated its strengths.

 

[KAL-EL]

Why would US retreat from the Middle East just to let that vacuum space to China?.

Any retreat under precise missile strikes losing billions of dollars are just a defeat. And Trump's never accepts a defeat.

It is not consistent what Tucker says IMO.

The US retreating from the Middle East is pure hopium for some, as it's not going to happen anytime soon

 

[KAL-EL]

I'm wondering if Lauren Boebert has any staff openings.

I love how at the end of her response video she says "I'm not hiring"

 

[The SC]

US Treasury Secretary Scott Bisnett warned that the Iranian economy could reach a point in about two weeks where it "has nothing left to trade," indicating that Tehran is nearing the delivery of its last remaining oil shipments under escalating US pressure and sanctions.

In an interview with Fox News, Bisnett said that approximately 15 million barrels of Iranian oil remain at sea, predicting that deliveries to China will conclude within the next two weeks.

He added, "I'm confident that, given that there are only 15 million barrels of Iranian oil at sea, Iran will have nothing left to trade for anything."

He continued, "Most likely, within the next two weeks, Iran will make its final oil deliveries to China, and then it will have nothing left. It will be facing a complete vacuum. And I think they are feeling the pressure, and that's why they want to reach an agreement."

Bisent's remarks come amid escalating US economic pressure on Tehran following the collapse of the memorandum of understanding with Iran in July and subsequent US measures aimed at tightening restrictions on shipping and trade related to Iran.

Last month, Bisent announced an operation called "Economic Outcast," focused on increasing pressure on foreign countries and companies that do business with Iran.

Last week, Iranian officials proposed a seven-day ceasefire, which included reopening the Strait of Hormuz in exchange for the US releasing approximately $12 billion in frozen Iranian assets and lifting sanctions.

However, US President Donald Trump rejected the proposal, deeming it unacceptable.