US Perspective on the Iran - Israel / US War

[Shags202]

So then riddle me this: where would this bomb be used and is the USAF prepared to protect the C-130 that would be carrying it?

Unless something has changed of late, that is the only aircraft capable of carrying a MOAB.

Thank you I said the same thing a few days ago and if you read the specs on the MOAB against a mountain it’s not even worth the trouble of using it blows up before it even hits the ground it would against airfields(does Iran have anything that actually needs to be grounded anymore) and military bases above ground the only thing capable of doing it is MOP C 130 even guarded by dozens of aircraft would be open season for the Iranians they would send anything everything they have against it slow moving aircraft like that I don’t think so unless Trump and heg are bigger imbeciles that they would tell the Iranians what we can easily look up ourselves

 

[Ali_Baba]

So then riddle me this: where would this bomb be used and is the USAF prepared to protect the C-130 that would be carrying it?

Unless something has changed of late, that is the only aircraft capable of carrying a MOAB.

This. This. This.

What people don't realise that the MOAB has a "release window" of altitude, speed and height for a fixed route for a period of time that makes the C130 vulnerable to most AD systems. This talk of MOAB is just trash talking from the orange idiot. Given that Iran can still shoot down drones at altitude, Iran can easily shoot down a C130 laden with a MOAB.

 

[Ali_Baba]

95th day of USN blockade on Iran.
Some people said US will not be able to sustain it for even one month.

For how long can the USN do it at the intensity it is doing it, burning up flight hours, airframe lifespans and ship life spans to get just a few barrels out every day? It is not sustainable which is why the orange idiot wants to escalate to try and bring closure to this whole war.

 

[Shags202]

This. This. This.

What people don't realise that the MOAB has a "release window" of altitude, speed and height for a fixed route for a period of time that makes the C130 vulnerable to most AD systems. This talk of MOAB is just trash talking from the orange idiot. Given that Iran can still shoot down drones at altitude, Iran can easily shoot down a C130 laden with a MOAB.

man honestly I need to send you all my posts so you can streamline them for me I said the same thing but 5 times longer 5000 to 20000 to be able to drop MOAB and moving at a 300 miles an hour with a 30 pound payload even if escorted by dozens of aircraft would be an extreme task, I actually kind of believed one of those reports where White House sent a message to Iran let us bomb the area with the MOAB and we will call it a wrap it’s for theatrics alone not a real military strategy if they wanted to hit the mountain guessing it would take several MOPs if those can’t pierce it call it a day

 

[Ali_Baba]

man honestly I need to send you all my posts so you can streamline them for me I said the same thing but 5 times longer 5000 to 20000 to be able to drop MOAB and moving at a 300 miles an hour with a 30 pound payload even if escorted by dozens of aircraft would be an extreme task, I actually kind of believed one of those reports where White House sent a message to Iran let us bomb the area with the MOAB and we will call it a wrap it’s for theatrics alone not a real military strategy if they wanted to hit the mountain guessing it would take several MOPs if those can’t pierce it call it a day

lol - what this shows is that I obviously don't read all posts, but go to the end of a thread more often that i should!!

 

[Shags202]

lol - what this shows is that I obviously don't read all posts, but go to the end of a thread more often that i should!!

I don’t blame you in mine theyyyyy kind of longggggg

 

[Shags202]

lol - what this shows is that I obviously don't read all posts, but go to the end of a thread more often that i should!!

I know you remember of course when they hit the mountain in Afghanistan with the MOAB other than wiping out all vegetation and homes and buildings in the vicinity it didn’t put a dent in the mountain itself so if he is actually serious it’s all theatrics no real military solution to a complex deep under a mountain

 

[The SC]

So then riddle me this: where would this bomb be used and is the USAF prepared to protect the C-130 that would be carrying it?

Unless something has changed of late, that is the only aircraft capable of carrying a MOAB.

The US used it in Afghanistan..they know where and how..

 

[Ali_Baba]

I know you remember of course when they hit the mountain in Afghanistan with the MOAB other than wiping out all vegetation and homes and buildings in the vicinity it didn’t put a dent in the mountain itself so if he is actually serious it’s all theatrics no real military solution to a complex deep under a mountain

Yeah. I remember l it didn’t work at all then and won’t work against Iran now for sure.

 

[MS Sandhu]

For how long can the USN do it at the intensity it is doing it, burning up flight hours, airframe lifespans and ship life spans to get just a few barrels out every day? It is not sustainable which is why the orange idiot wants to escalate to try and bring closure to this whole war.

USN can do this for forever if ultra rich middle easterns keep throwing money to Trump.
Money is such a b.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

The US used it in Afghanistan..they know where and how..

Hence why I am saying the "how" will be suspect because the only aircraft currently capable of carrying and delivering the weapon is a C-130. The C-17 is not nor are any of the bomber fleet.

Now, to your point, could engineers be working on that? Absolutely. But, it would require quite a few structural modifications of the bomb bay and airframe to accommodate.

 

[PK781]

Keihan newspaper, mouthpiece of Iranian Leader Mojtaba Khamenei: Targeting the Iranian "Axe Mountain" facility will be offset by the destruction of Israeli nuclear facilities.

i'll take that with a grain of salt.
They didn't strike israel (excuse of the AD batteries in the way) hard even before the MOU, so its sorta kinda hard to believe they will do so again.
I'll have to see it to believe it.

as they say "pics or it didnt happen"

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Yeah. I remember l it didn’t work at all then and won’t work against Iran now for sure.

Not necessarily. Remember, the strike on that cave complex was on the entrance. If it was a direct or close to direct hit, the concussion wave from the over-pressure would have killed anything within the cave itself for some distance back.

You don't have to have the mountain in rubble to achieve the desired outcome.

 

[Shags202]

Not necessarily. Remember, the strike on that cave complex was on the entrance. If it was a direct or close to direct hit, the concussion wave from the over-pressure would have killed anything within the cave itself for some distance back.

You don't have to have the mountain in rubble to achieve the desired outcome.

I’m thinking with this you really will have to have the mountain in rubble to achieve the desired outcome they have created numerous obstacles to block a huge explosion like that MOP is the only way to go to ensure a direct hit on thay installation and most likely a few to make sure everything is buried under that mountain

 

[The SC]

U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio stated in an interview with the "Breitbart" website that Hezbollah is "100 percent an agent of Iran," and that the armed factions in Iraq also receive support from the Iranian regime, which enables them to launch missile attacks on Saudi Arabia and Israel from Iraqi territory.Rubio added that Iran is the only country in the region that, in addition to attacks by proxy forces, has carried out direct attacks on Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, Kuwait, and Jordan.He also described the Iranian regime as the main supporter of the Houthis, stating that all hotspots of crisis in the region trace back to the Iranian regime and the "extremist clerics" ruling in Iran.Rubio further said: "If these extremist Shiite clerics were not in power in Iran, none of these problems would exist."He stated that to address the state of instability and wars in the Middle East, it is necessary to correctly identify the party responsible for them and confront it, adding that developments in the past few months have revealed this to the world.In another part of the interview, Rubio said that U.S. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent is exerting intense pressure on Iran through sanctions.