US Perspective on the Iran - Israel / US War

[SolarWarden]

Oh, for those babbling about the markets today?

Of course it was expected to react this way. Even an idiot would have seen that.

They see gridlock for the next two years which will allow them the freedom to actually do business.

Because 2028 has already started.

As for Trump, he actually believes he can get along with Democrats in the new year. It's not happening. Even an idiot can see that.

It's going to be like when Obama lost congress nothing but executive orders from here on out... so nothing changes I guess.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

It's going to be like when Obama lost congress nothing but executive orders from here on out... so nothing changes I guess.

Exactly.

I'm going to post a few random musings, not to be confused with @Musings , in the Midterm Elections thread.

 

[mythbuster]

Oh, for those babbling about the markets today?

Of course it was expected to react this way. Even an idiot would have seen that.

They see gridlock for the next two years which will allow them the freedom to actually do business.

Because 2028 has already started.

As for Trump, he actually believes he can get along with Democrats in the new year. It's not happening. Even an idiot can see that.

American logistics don't allow for a long standoff , it's not easy to keep the AC carriers deployed on an armed ready state for a long time... besides gulf is not the only theatre for America to worry about.... window for resolving this crisis is very short and you can't leave Iran off the hook .

 

[Shags202]

Casting blame I see. You're not alone. The usual national talks shows are doing the same today.

Vance was the lone voice in the room who was against the war from the get go.

But, you're right. It was half-assed and the troops did well in spite of the half-assed approach.

But yet, here we are. Again.

I said the same thing in 1991.

American troops doing well isn’t the same as achieving goals all you got now is a pissed off country that’s going to make it’s neighbors wish they hadn’t played this game with Trump if you aren’t screaming uncle and still have the ability to cause damage on a large scale nobody has won

 

[mythbuster]

American troops doing well isn’t the same as achieving goals all you got now is a pissed off country that’s going to make it’s neighbors wish they hadn’t played this game with Trump if you aren’t screaming uncle and still have the ability to cause damage on a large scale nobody has won

Your pissed off country is way down the league in military power relative to her regional peers....in an all-out war regional countries can devour Iran in no time.... what does Iran have other than few missiles and drones ?

 

[Shags202]

Your pissed off country is way down the league in military power relative to her regional peers....in an all-out war regional countries can devour Iran in no time.... what does Iran have other than few missiles and drones ?

My country is America I’m just stating the Iran fought fiercely and hasn’t faltered and let’s be real who would actually fight Iran toe to toe unless they were backed by actual capable American or yes Israeli forces……come on dude why are you acting silly for no reason even you have admitted the Houthis have been fighting fiercely and the Saudis and Yemen forces are nearly incompetent(paraphrasing) so what do you believe Saudi Arabia that hasn’t been able to put down a Houthi offensive could do to a country the size of Iran

 

[mythbuster]

My country is America I’m just stating the Iran fought fiercely and hasn’t faltered and let’s be real who would actually fight Iran toe to toe unless they were backed by actual capable American or yes Israeli forces……come on dude why are you acting silly for no reason even you have admitted the Houthis have been fighting fiercely and the Saudis and Yemen forces are nearly incompetent(paraphrasing) so what do you believe Saudi Arabia that hasn’t been able to put down a Houthi offensive could do to a country the size of Iran

Stop blabbering like a five years old kid.....do you think Iran can fight Turkey or Pakistan ....Iran didn't fight , it just took the beating and to her credit she is still breathing.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Stop blabbering like a five years old kid.....do you think Iran can fight Turkey or Pakistan ....Iran didn't fight , it just took the beating and to her credit she is still breathing.

In 1991, Iraq took a beating the likes of which it had never experienced ever. Yet, I told buddies of mine we didn't finish the job and that we'd be back some day to finish it.

Yup. The military objectives were met. Iraq was expelled from Kuwait. No fly zones were established over Iraq, etc. Yet, Saddam survived, gassed the Kurds, etc.

And in 2003?

 

[Shags202]

Stop blabbering like a five years old kid.....do you think Iran can fight Turkey or Pakistan ....Iran didn't fight , it just took the beating and to her credit she is still breathing.

But Iran hasn’t fought Pakistan or turkey did the elections piss you off because you are acting really silly dude literally for no reason but you brought the neighbors that have been party to the fighting not turkey or Pakistan who attempted very hard to stay neutral….you do know acting tough on the internet is silly right eeeeeh time to go back in the ignore pile

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

But Iran hasn’t fought Pakistan or turkey did the elections piss you off because you are acting really silly dude literally for no reason but you brought the neighbors that have been party to the fighting not turkey or Pakistan who attempted very hard to stay neutral….you do know acting tough on the internet is silly right eeeeeh time to go back in the ignore pile

If you will attend, I will pay for you to take an adult writing class.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

American logistics don't allow for a long standoff , it's not easy to keep the AC carriers deployed on an armed ready state for a long time... besides gulf is not the only theatre for America to worry about.... window for resolving this crisis is very short and you can't leave Iran off the hook .

What annoys me is there are people in the Pentagon, speaking out of school, that Trump and Hegseth were warned that a war with Iran was unsustainable. WHAT?

First off, why is this even being leaked? Secondly, if true, what does that mean about America's preparedness in general? As if in a crisis against a peer adversary.

I'm still of the opinion we are prepared but maybe not to the level we should be because of the deliberate depletion of stockpiles by the Biden Administration to support Ukraine. A depletion without any concrete plans to replenish as they should have been.

I could care less what those here are saying about all of the contracts that have been awarded. I used to work in manufacturing. I ended my career in logistics. I know a thing or three about capacity and supply chain management. The Biden Administration did us no favors.

Others here are ecstatic the US is ending military aid to Israel. It won't matter. It's bukkake theater. Israel still benefits thanks to the latest provisions of the NDAA. That is worth far more.

 

[Shags202]

If you will attend, I will pay for you to take an adult writing class.

…..you ain’t lying and here’s the kicker I got all As in English man I would show you my messages to my WhatsApp group at work you would go crazy it’s 1100 times worse I keep leaving notes all day long

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

…..you ain’t lying and here’s the kicker I got all As in English man I would show you my messages to my WhatsApp group at work you would go crazy it’s 1100 times worse I keep leaving notes all day long

Don't. My head hurts enough as it is.

The other members here would cheer if I were to threadban you.

 

[Shags202]

Don't. My head hurts enough as it is.

The other members here would cheer if I were to threadban you.

Eeehh maybe 2 to 3 members tops but if you ever did I wouldn’t get upset