US will officially recognise the Persian Gulf as either the "Arabian Gulf" or the "Gulf of Arabia."

[Starlord]

We're likely at the point where this should find its way to the "Whatever" thread.

If you travel through the Hillsborough North Ave, you will see some people standing on traffic stops, travel through Nebraska Ave and you will see some night workers (Prosti...) and some funny drunk people fighting lol

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

If you travel through the Hillsborough North Ave, you will see some people standing on traffic stops, travel through Nebraska Ave and you will see some night workers (Prosti...) and some funny drunk people fighting lol

Why? I can see all that in west Phoenix. Lot less distance to travel. And, I can get outstanding tacos along the way.

 

[Starlord]

Why? I can see all that in west Phoenix. Lot less distance to travel. And, I can get outstanding tacos along the way.

I mean we got some Quality weirdo's in Tampa, I want to visit Phoenix as some point, heard a lot about the city, and also Denver.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

I mean we got some Quality weirdo's in Tampa, I want to visit Phoenix as some point, heard a lot about the city, and also Denver.

In spite of some of the issues currently in PHX, there is still a lot to offer.

You should reach out to @Oscar regarding DEN. It too has it pros and cons. Warning: Traffic along the I-70 absolutely sucks. Seriously. And at stop lights, the people do not understand that red is not a suggestion and marijuana green is not one of the choices in order to go.

I spent the better part of six months up there. Golden was outstanding.

 

[Oscar]

In spite of some of the issues currently in PHX, there is still a lot to offer.

You should reach out to @Oscar regarding DEN. It too has it pros and cons. Warning: Traffic along the I-70 absolutely sucks. Seriously. And at stop lights, the people do not understand that red is not a suggestion and marijuana green is not one of the choices in order to go.

I spent the better part of six months up there. Golden was outstanding.

Den is great from a weather and activities pov. I lived in best parts and its “I can die here” type on its days. But then it’s also blue so all the sanctuary city crap has left it peniless and city parks and atmosphere screwed with illegals and homeless

 

[Davey Crockett]

“What’s in a name? That which we call a rose by any other name would smell as sweet.” - Juliet.

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[Starlord]

In spite of some of the issues currently in PHX, there is still a lot to offer.

You should reach out to @Oscar regarding DEN. It too has it pros and cons. Warning: Traffic along the I-70 absolutely sucks. Seriously. And at stop lights, the people do not understand that red is not a suggestion and marijuana green is not one of the choices in order to go.

I spent the better part of six months up there. Golden was outstanding.

Denver I heard its very expensive city to live in, back in 2024 I applied for a Data Analyst job in Denver for my company but got dropped after 2nd interview, but during that I did look into rent/housing market and it was crazy, also the size of that city is just incredible.
I know one guy who moved to Tampa from Phoenix, haven't had much interaction with him about the city and its dynamics, personally I like Tampa and Florida, everything I need is here only issue is how rent/houses are sky rocketing, but compared to that salaries/pay is not, specially my company pay less compared to market for positions but their incentives are amazing.

 

[gangsta_rap]

It was ALWAYS the arabian gulf since the first mesopotamians (not irannians) set foot into the waters.

 

[Developereo]

Denver I heard its very expensive city to live in, back in 2024 I applied for a Data Analyst job in Denver for my company but got dropped after 2nd interview, but during that I did look into rent/housing market and it was crazy, also the size of that city is just incredible.
I know one guy who moved to Tampa from Phoenix, haven't had much interaction with him about the city and its dynamics, personally I like Tampa and Florida, everything I need is here only issue is how rent/houses are sky rocketing, but compared to that salaries/pay is not, specially my company pay less compared to market for positions but their incentives are amazing.

I lived in Boulder for a short stint. I always like living in a smaller city close to a large city. Boulder is a great city with a university vibe and perfect weather.

Had my near death experience in Garden of the Gods Park when my SUV rolled off road and onto the rocks, tumbling several times as the roof on the passenger side got smashed down and the car was totalled. The whole tumbling experience went in surreal, slow motion as I lived through it, then I unclipped my set belt and climbed out without as much as a scratch. Total miracle.

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

It was ALWAYS the arabian gulf since the first mesopotamians (not irannians) set foot into the waters.

1. Babylonian World Map (~600 BCE) Name for Persian Gulf: Not explicitly labeled. The map includes a circular “Bitter River” (likely the ocean or saltwater sea), but regional details like the Persian Gulf aren't individually named. Context: The focus was more symbolic/cosmological than geographic.

2. Eratosthenes’ Map (~200 BCE) Greek scholar who coined the term “geography.” Created a world map using latitude and longitude. Included the Persian Gulf, likely labeled in Greek as something equivalent to “Persikos Kolpos” (Greek for Persian Gulf). Significance: Improved geographic measurements over earlier thinkers.

3. Ptolemy’s World Map (c. 150 CE) Name for Persian Gulf: Sinus Persicus (Latin for "Persian Gulf"). This is the earliest surviving cartographic use of a recognizable name for the Persian Gulf. He also includes Sinus Arabicus (the Red Sea), showing awareness of regional distinctions.

4. Tabula Rogeriana (1154 CE, al-Idrisi) Name for Persian Gulf: Typically labeled in Arabic as "al-Khalīj al-Fārisī" (الخليج الفارسي), meaning "Persian Gulf". Al-Idrisi, writing in Arabic under Islamic tradition, accurately included and named the gulf. Orientation note: South is at the top, so the gulf appears “upside-down” by modern standards.

5. Waldseemüller Map (1507 CE) Name for Persian Gulf: Usually labeled as Sinus Persicus or some Latin variation. The 1507 map uses Latin terminology, and “Sinus Persicus” remained standard among European cartographers during that period. Clearly shows the gulf, now alongside a roughly shaped Arabian Peninsula and Indian subcontinent.

 

[MH.Yang]

How about we call it the Trump Gulf? Mr. President will be happy to tweet.

 

[FUB]

It was ALWAYS the arabian gulf since the first mesopotamians (not irannians) set foot into the waters.

Here we go. Another jack ignorant of history.

2000–1500 BCE- Iranians migrate from the Pontic-Caspian Steppe/Caucasus into the Iranian Plateau.
The Parsa tribe (Persians) settle in Parsa (Fars Province) near the Persian Gulf.
700–550 BCE – Median Empire-the first Iranian empire, controlling much of Iran and parts of Mesopotamia.

550–330 BCE – Achaemenid Empire

• Cyrus the Great, a Persian from Fars, overthrows the Medes.
• Establishes the Achaemenid Empire — the first Persian Empire.
• Stretches from the Indus River to Greece.
• Controls the Persian Gulf, establishing key naval and trade routes.

150 BCE – 224 CE – Parthian Empire
224–651 CE – Sassanian Empire

• Ardashir I, a Persian from Fars, revives Persian rule.
• Forms the Sassanian Empire, based in Fars and Ctesiphon.
• Competes with the Roman and Byzantine Empires.
• Controls Persian Gulf trade, builds naval power, and spreads Zoroastrianism.

So you think it was always the Arabian Gulf, when Iranians controlled all of it for over 1000 years and settled in that area 2000 BC?

 

[Davey Crockett]

LOL!

Shouldn't even be a debate.

ZOG of America don't speak for anyone anymore.

 

[FarhanSiddiqui]

I propose renaming Indian Ocean as Pakistani Ocean.

 

[gangsta_rap]

So you think it was always the Arabian Gulf, when Iranians controlled all of it for over 1000 years and settled in that area 2000 BC?

The first to settle in it were the semitic cultures of Dilmun during the Bronze age (>1000 BCE). They were the ancestors of the Arabs who reside the Emirates and Bahrain today.

Iranians did not even see the gulf until the 700s BCE when the Median Empire and Iranian pastoralists began to settle further south.