US will run out of missiles in war with China, lose the conflict, warns Congressional wargame

[tower9]

Huh... come on, they have troops everywhere and bases all over right this moment

Did we imagine Iraq and Afghanistan wars?

The Iraq and Afghanistan wars occurred before the pivot to Asia. After 2011, the US never involved itself with a massive invasive war bc it started to shift immense amounts of military assets to China. This is also why China needed to start building military bases in the South China Sea. This was in reaction to the massive military buildup of the US navy in East Asia and China had to counter their potential in choking its trade routes. This is also why Chinas naval buildup accelerated during those years and why China now has the largest navy by ships in the world and China significantly upgraded the advancement of its navy to the point that it possesses far more modern and updated ships than the US today.

If China was a weak country, the US would’ve already bombed the hell out of by the mid 2010s. But because China is so powerful both militarily and economically, the US has had to conduct covert wars like the tech sanctions, trade war, Hong Kong riots, Uighur genocide psy ops, 24/7 anti China propaganda, China India border conflicts, the Quad, Aukus, promoting Taiwan independence and arguably Covid and framing China for Covid.

But I’m sure none of this ever even crossed your mind.

 

[tower9]

This is mild and basic stuff the Arab world confront with less resources and stability

So you must get much much more realistic about what is ahead of you


Btw I keep telling you I am glad for Chinese development

Now look how they passed all limits of decency in Gaza, they supported it fully, so they have limits or rules, do you think?

That's what you face when it begins, if it begins

The US is going to support Israel no matter what. Is it disgusting? Yes. What does this have to do with China? China has used its diplomatic leverage in the Middle East to pave the way for the normalization of Iranian and Saudi ties. That was huge. China has limited influence over Gaza and even the Arab states themselves aren’t helping Gaza, they are helping Israel.

 

[UKBengali]

The situation in the Middle East is primarily due to Israel’s aggression. The US has not been militarily involved significantly aside from supplying weapons. The US has constantly refrained from getting dragged in because it wants to focus on China. The reason why Israel has succeeded so well is because the surrounding Arab states are incompetent and Turkey is a backstabbing opportunistic country which militarily intervened to help Israel. Until Turkey intervened, Iran was putting Israel on its back foot.

The Trump administration has already made it clear it doesn’t want to be involved with Syria and this is bc they want to focus on China.

Do you understand the amount of US military assets in east Asia and the constant movement of the US navy through the SCS and off Taiwan? How about all of the anti China campaigns of the past eight years from the trade war to the Uighur psy ops to the Hong Kong riots? How about the quad, aukus and American instigation of India China tensions? There are also many facts about Covid which suggest that it might have been a CIA bio attack. You aren’t aware of all of this because you are completely ignorant about Chinese affairs.

Unfortunately too many Muslims are emotional and think of "flexing muscles" as a way to beat your enemies.

No it needs cold, hard logic and playing the long game.

Sunni Arabs and some other Sunnis here like Turks and even some Pakistanis have shown their clear sectarian tendencies and/or inability to "look at the bigger picture".

I am not sure whether a powerful country like China will ever be able to have mutually respectful relations with some Muslim countries as the societies are extremely primitive and backward.

 

[r3alist]

The Iraq and Afghanistan wars occurred before the pivot to Asia. After 2011, the US never involved itself with a massive invasive war bc it started to shift immense amounts of military assets to China. This is also why China needed to start building military bases in the South China Sea. This was in reaction to the massive military buildup of the US navy in East Asia and China had to counter their potential in choking its trade routes. This is also why Chinas naval buildup accelerated during those years and why China now has the largest navy by ships in the world and China significantly upgraded the advancement of its navy to the point that it possesses far more modern and updated ships than the US today.

If China was a weak country, the US would’ve already bombed the hell out of by the mid 2010s. But because China is so powerful both militarily and economically, the US has had to conduct covert wars like the tech sanctions, trade war, Hong Kong riots, Uighur genocide psy ops, 24/7 anti China propaganda, promoting Taiwan independence and arguably Covid and framing China for Covid.

But I’m sure none of this ever even crossed your mind.

If all nations who are potential allies become weak ruined or scared of USA then china is not more vulnerable, agree or not?

It's obvious the USA is doing one by one strategy so it's not spread thin, it focuses on one, then regroup,the next etc

Basically it seems you are waiting for your turn.....ok maybe I am wrong


Will you do one single thing on USA main land, need steel spine for that

 

[UKBengali]

If all nations who are potential allies become weak ruined or scared of USA then china is not more vulnerable, agree or not?

It's obvious the USA is doing one by one strategy so it's not spread thin, it focuses on one, then regroup,the next etc

Basically it seems you are waiting for your turn.....ok maybe I am wrong


Will you do one single thing on USA main land, need steel spine for that

China only really needs to help the following:

1. Russia
2. North Korea
3. Iran - only sovereign and strong country left in ME.
4. Pakistan - to keep India "busy".

Rest are not worth much to China's rise to peer superpower of USA.

 

[tower9]

If all nations who are potential allies become weak ruined or scared of USA that china is not more vulnerable too

It's obvious the USA is doing one by one strategy so it's not spread thin, it focuses on one, then regroup,the next etc

Basically it seems you are waiting for your turn.....ok maybe I am wrong


Will you do one single thing on USA main land, need steel spine for that

I am pretty sure China understands that and this is why it is working hard on things like the Brics and establishing an independent global financial architecture, as well as providing significant economic and technology options to the non western world.

The domination of the west sits on the global financial system and technological supremacy. China can chimp out and attack the west before achieving superiority in this field but it will just be contained, sanctioned and the west will continue dominating the world. When China finally achieves its goals in these fields, it will provide a path to freedom for the non western world and that is already happening. You’re looking for big bang events when the foundations of global power has already shifted dramatically.

 

[UKBengali]

I am pretty sure China understands that and this is why it is working hard on things like the Brics and establishing an independent global financial architecture, as well as providing significant economic and technology options to the non western world.

The domination of the west sits on the global financial system and technological supremacy. China can chimp out and attack the west before achieving superiority in this field but it will just be contained, sanctioned and the west will continue dominating the world. When China finally achieves its goals in these fields, it will provide a path to freedom for the non western world and that is already happening. You’re looking for big bang events when the foundations of global power has already shifted dramatically.

Let's make it simple for even the deaf and blind to understand.

10 years from now China is as strong as the US in all sectors.

China has created an alternative financial, economic and technological eco-system in the world.

US/West are still sanctioning Iran but Iran just sells its oil/gas to China, buys semicondcutors and jet planes from China. Iran also buys cutting-edge 5th generation planes like J-35 from China to defend its airspace. The sanctions in effect are meaningless and just harm the west as they lose billions in trade with Iran every year that now goes to China.

Why don't people understand a simple thing like this!

 

[tower9]

Let's make it simple for even the deaf and blind to understand.

10 years from now China is as strong as the US in all sectors.

China has created an alternative financial, economic and technolgical eco-system in the world.

US/West are still sanctioning Iran but Iran just sells its oil/gas to China, buys semicondcutors and jet planes to China. The sanctions in effect are meaningless and just harm the west as they lose billions in trade with Iran every year that now goes to China.

Why don't people understand a simple thing like this!

He keeps harping about how the US picks off each country one by one.

Does he not realize this is why China is in extra gears trying to build an alternative financial and tech ecosystem? And why is this so urgent for China? Because it’s been the primary target of the US empire since the last decade!

The reason why the west has been so successful picking off countries one by one is because it was completely dominant financially and technologically where when they placed sanctions on you, it’s a death sentence. When there are alternatives the power of these sanctions shrink dramatically.

 

[Snake]

How does fighting to the death do for the Palestinians and constant fighting among Muslims. stop projecting our own misery onto others. It will help nothing. Muslims are suffering a century of humiliation at the hands of the Zionist and all the Muslim leaders seem to care about is wealth and regime change.

You're comparing apples and oranges. If you want a proper example think the Taliban v. NATO. Palestine is a very very special case where they're embargoed from receiving even humanitarian aid. Muslims are not a single entity unlike China. But if it makes you feel better yes they are suffering great humiliation and eventually there will be a fight to the death against Zionists.

 

[UKBengali]

He keeps harping about how the US picks off each country one by one.

Does he not realize this is why China is in extra gears trying to build an alternative financial and tech ecosystem? And why is this so urgent for China? Because it’s been the primary target of the US empire since the last decade!

The reason why the west has been so successful picking off countries one by one is because it was completely dominant financially and technologically where when they placed sanctions on you, it’s a death sentence. When there are alternatives the power of these sanctions shrink dramatically.

China creating an alternative to the west is far more impactful than it being like Russia and providing free weapons and maybe even a bit of cash to "Global South" countries.

China will hopefully free the world from western dominance soon and it is the only country that has the comprehensive national strength to do this.

Even the old Soviet Union was never going to challenge the west as economically, technologically and financially it was weak and was also a white country.

 

[tower9]

China creating an alternative to the west is far more impactful than it being like Russia and providing free weapons and maybe even a bit of cash to "Global South" countries.

China will hopefully free the world from western dominance soon and it is the only country that has the comprehensive national strength to do this.

Even the old Soviet Union was never going to challenge the west as economically, technologically and financially it was weak and was also a white country.

China is one of the most misunderstood countries in the world. When you come to really understand the country, its culture, its power and also how deeply strategic it is, you will be amazed. Take its economy for example, the fact that it’s so intertwined with the west where you will see two Starbucks in every corner of Shanghai, insulated itself from escalation in western aggression because the loss of products and supply chains would hurt western economies as much as it hurts Chinas.

Then you think about how China has basically harnessed capitalist mechanisms to create great efficiency and wealth in its economy but most major corporations are still state owned so they supply the state with capital and this keeps income taxes very low to non existent for its people.

And now technological and financial independence is a do or die issue for China and its harnessing its entire society for this and has already made massive breakthroughs in every tech field, this is already creating an alternative reality for the non western world.

 

[UKBengali]

And now technological and financial independence is a do or die issue for China and its harnessing its entire society for this and has already made massive breakthroughs in every tech field, this is already creating an alternative reality for the non western world.

Why is China expected to save ME Muslims from their own stupidities?

They need to prove they are worthy within the constraints currently in place but what we are seeing from the Sunni Arabs would not have gone down too well in Beijing.

As a BD Muslim I find it incredibly depressing that so many Muslims still have such a backward way of thinking when modernity is essential now for your very survival as the Zio-US devours one Muslim country after another.

BD had a revolution this year and toppled the previous government(15 years in power) but BD's economic and foreign policies are still very much identical. That is a sign of a mature and rational country.

 

[tower9]

Why is China expected to save ME Muslims from their own stupidities?

They need to prove they are worthy within the constraints currently in place but what we are seeing from the Sunni Arabs would not have gone down too well in Beijing.

As a BD Muslim I find it incredibly depressing that so many Muslims still have such a backward way of thinking when modernity is essential now for your very survival as the Zio-US devours one Muslim country after another.

BD had a revolution this year and toppled the previous government(15 years in power) but BD's economic and foreign policies are still very much identical. That is a sign of a mature and rational country.

I don’t understand it either. It would be one thing if the Sunni Arabs were fighting with great bravery and honor against Israel like the Vietnamese did in their war of liberation. But the Sunni Arab world are cheering the demise of Iran and ignoring Gaza. Egypt won’t even open its borders.

So what the **** is China supposed to do? Stop everything to help Gaza?

 

[battalion25]

I don’t understand it either. It would be one thing if the Sunni Arabs were fighting with great bravery and honor against Israel like the Vietnamese did in their war of liberation. But the Sunni Arab world are cheering the demise of Iran and ignoring Gaza. Egypt won’t even open its borders.

So what the **** is China supposed to do? Stop everything to help Gaza?

Egypt doesn´t want to open border because it doesn´t want the Palestinians displaced..

To be fairly honest with you the ME doesn´t have an Israeli problem at all it is all an illusion but a US problem or rather NATO. IF anyone wants significiant change they have to defeat NATO in a battle arguable in a nuclear warfare and their odds won´t be good if they were to chose that while not being ready.. Hence why fight a war you can´t win today.

Can China win a conflict with NATO today? the answer is also no nor can the Sunni arabs.

Also Israel is a tiny nation and could be taken out within hours but the reason is because of NATO threat and NATO will fight for Israel. Hence there is no solution to the NATO problem as of yet

 

[tower9]

Egypt doesn´t want to open border because it doesn´t want the Palestinians displaced..

To be fairly honest with you the ME doesn´t have an Israeli problem at all it is all an illusion but a US problem or rather NATO. IF anyone wants significiant change they have to defeat NATO in a battle arguable in a nuclear warfare and their odds won´t be good if they were to chose that while not being ready.. Hence why fight a war you can´t win today.

Can China win a conflict with NATO today? the answer is also no nor can the Sunni arabs

Egypt doesn’t want the Palestinians displaced but is perfectly fine just sitting there and watching them get slaughtered, starved and frozen to death.

Egypt should have never handed Gaza over to Israel. Israel at the time actually didn’t want responsibility over it but Egypt insisted that it didn’t want it. Gaza should be a part of Egypt so its people can live normal lives.