US will run out of missiles in war with China, lose the conflict, warns Congressional wargame

[r3alist]

Good why should china go to war over your own little fantasy u are nothing but a dreamy boy who thinks china will replace the US as another lunatic hegemon. Get a grip. The world doesn't revolve around wars. China has 1.4 billion people to feed. U wanna fight war so much then go to war with India. What's stopping you sheesh. China is true to its word ever since the establishment of non interference policy in the 80s and lets keep it that way. China has no one to rely on except itself. So better to build up it's national power and military than to waste money others like Iran and Russia did with Assad. All gone to waste!

Thanks, but completely unrequested screed, you don't need to bother again

What I doubt China's strategy is that in reality peace with no cost is unrealistic

How do you not see that

So from my view it's absolutely in China's interest to ensure... for example... Russia is credible enough to the west

China has had the good will of nations, if it's seen as another exploiter with power and arrogance you might find some nations will look at you a bit differently, it's an interconnected world

Already I see how you react to mild questioning on Chinese approach, why so thin skinned? If this idea spreads amongst brics a new headache might emerge from new places

Again you misunderstood, I am a well wisher of Chinese development, but you doing your best to be arrogant

 

[Snake]

Hi,

You have not killed any of your enemies---.

You have not created any enemies for the sake of murdering them---.

You have yet to declare a religion an enemy religion and declared to murder them as justifiable---.

You have not reached out and murdered these self created enemies---.

you have not killed their innocent children---women---girls---boys---old men just for the thrill of it---.

You have not used religion to justify the killing of innocent enemies just because your pilots did not want to land with HOT ammo---.

You have yet to murder over 10 million muslims within 23 years---decimated the land resources of 5 muslim nations and still blame the muslims for the atrocities---.

Beijing---america is a well oiled killing machine---.

Forget about men and women---you won;t be able to kill 10 million buffaloes just for their hide and throw the meat away----you won't be able to kill a 100000 even---.

The american murdered over 80 million buffaloes---for what---to starve the american indians---.

Son---you have no concept how big a monster the USA is---maybe 10 times worst than the invading MONGOLS---.

I see what you're saying but the Chinese have inflicted serious pain on themselves in the past - Mao has 10s of millions human deaths attributed to him. My wager is if the Chinese state is under threat the Chinese will behave much like Israelis do today. If they can inflict such pain upon themselves for the sake of rising up then they will definitely do it to avoid being torn down.

Although with America's experience in this area the odds are not in their favor.

 

[r3alist]

I see what you're saying but the Chinese have inflicted serious pain on themselves in the past - Mao has 10s of millions human deaths attributed to him. My wager is if the Chinese state is under threat the Chinese will behave much like Israelis do today. If they can inflict such pain upon themselves for the sake of rising up then they will definitely do it to avoid being torn down.

Although with America's experience in this area the odds are not in their favor.

The Chinese are always at pains to tell us about their inward looking mentality, the great Chinese wall

Then you get the sun Tzu quote...the best war fought is where you don't blah blah

Now if you actually connect the large dot's it becomes offensive practically to say Chinese don't really like a fight and right this second with it's adversary rampaging and marauding that attitude might be a weakness.


Oh no.

 

[tower9]

Thanks, but completely unrequested screed, you don't need to bother again

What I doubt China's strategy is that in reality peace with no cost is unrealistic

How do you not see that

So from my view it's absolutely in China's interest to ensure... for example... Russia is credible enough to the west

China has had the good will of nations, if it's seen as another exploiter with power and arrogance you might find some nations will look at you a bit differently, it's an interconnected world

Already I see how you react to mild questioning on Chinese approach, why so thin skinned? If this idea spreads amongst brics a new headache might emerge from new places

Again you misunderstood, I am a well wisher of Chinese development, but you doing your best to be arrogant

So China is supposed to fight a war just to demonstrate its weapons or prove a point?

China is supporting Russia tremendously in the Ukraine war. Although China is not supporting Russia militarily, it is significantly bolstering Russias economy and supplying it with crucial parts for both its civilian and military industries. Without Chinas help, Russia would not be holding off NATO in the war. Supporting Russia is probably one of Chinas most crucial foreign policy pillars as Russia is the biggest and most competent ally that China has and a great source of crucial resources.

As for Syria, there was no reason for China to be involved there. The regime was on its last legs and their army didn’t even fight. The Sunni Arabs were all plotting against it along with Turkey and Israel. Also after the fall and after the dust settles we will see what the score really was. If Russia keeps its ports it didn’t lose anything with Syrias collapse and the Assad regime was selling out Iran on the side, so it was barely an ally. The biggest losers are the Palestinians but they themselves were rooting for Assad’s fall.

China understands that the most crucial foundation of national strength is wealth and technology. China is single-handedly changing the balance of power in the world and empowering the non western world. I don’t think it needs advice on what to do as it is the one of the only non western countries to actually be excelling under tremendous pressure. Also recovering Taiwan is paramount to Chinas national interest and it’s not going to involve itself in some draining war thousands of miles away when Taiwan is not recovered. So those are just the facts.

 

[r3alist]

So China is supposed to fight a war just to demonstrate its weapons or prove a point?

I didn't say this exactly, stop using this defensive straw man argument

China is supporting Russia tremendously in the Ukraine war. Although China is not supporting Russia militarily

Way to contradict yourself

That's not tremendous,it shows either you play games or you don't want to offend west

As for Syria, there was no reason for China to be involved there.

I agree, but that's because you have avoided involvement for a long time so no one expects anything suddenly

China understands that the most crucial foundation of national strength is wealth and technology.

Good luck with that, you are describing a nice comfortable existence, to win conflict you needs b@lls too.

one of the only non western countries to actually be excelling under tremendous pressure.

Tremendous pressure lol lol

You are fortunate the USA is embroiled in the middle east

As these counties fall chinas time comes sooner lol

In fact maybe Russia and Iran decide to not be so china friendly, maybe they invite easier path for us to confront China, why not?they need a rest after much sacrifice....

These are just possibilities btw


Don't get upset

 

[tower9]

I didn't say this exactly, stop using this defensive straw man argument


Way to contradict yourself

That's not tremendous,it shows either you play games or you don't want to offend west




I agree, but that's because you have avoided involvement for a long time so no one expects anything suddenly



Good luck with that, you are describing a nice comfortable existence, to win conflict you needs b@lls too.



Tremendous pressure lol lol

You are fortunate the USA is embroiled in the middle east

As these counties fall chinas time comes sooner lol

In fact maybe Russia and Iran decide to not be so china friendly, maybe they invite easier path for us to confront China, why not?they need a rest after much sacrifice....

These are just possibilities btw


Don't get upset

I’m sorry but you are demonstrating immense ignorance of the situation.

First of all, the US has been trying to disengage from the Middle East since Obama’s pivote to Asia in 2011 precisely because of China. This isn’t 2004. China is the no 1 target of the US foreign policy establishment. The only reason why there hasn’t been an actual war is because China is militarily too powerful. But make no doubt about it, American focus has shifted away from the Middle East because of China so this belief that you have that China is continuing to profit from turmoil in the Middle East is pure delusion. If China didn’t exist, the US would’ve conquered and occupied three more countries there.

And yes, China is not supporting Russia militarily because 1. All financial and trade links to the west would be cut off. China has immense economic ties to the west. To act recklessly and damage the livelihoods of thousands of Chinese businesses is very irresponsible. Look at the huge presence of Chinese products in the west and in American allies. Secondly, Russia is strong enough to handle the war as it is a great military power itself. If Russia was getting beaten bad and on the verge of collapse, this might change China’s calculus. But it isn’t.

 

[Lulldapull]

I didn't say this exactly, stop using this defensive straw man argument


Way to contradict yourself

That's not tremendous,it shows either you play games or you don't want to offend west




I agree, but that's because you have avoided involvement for a long time so no one expects anything suddenly



Good luck with that, you are describing a nice comfortable existence, to win conflict you needs b@lls too.



Tremendous pressure lol lol

You are fortunate the USA is embroiled in the middle east

As these counties fall chinas time comes sooner lol

In fact maybe Russia and Iran decide to not be so china friendly, maybe they invite easier path for us to confront China, why not?they need a rest after much sacrifice....

These are just possibilities btw


Don't get upset

China is a businessman. They don't give shit what TF happening anywhere and it is what it is.

After the US told Bajwa to force the Chinese to leave Pakistan, the whole BRI went down the toilet including our CPEC. Losing what $26 billion on CPEC is peanuts for China anyway. The venture failed due to US pressure on Pakistan.

I guess the Chinese had figured this tid bit in their calculus that Pakistan is not reliable because its finances are controlled by the west.

At the end of it all......there hasn't been a good day for Russia/ China/ Iran over the last fortnight and counting.

 

[Snake]

The Chinese are always at pains to tell us about their inward looking mentality, the great Chinese wall

Then you get the sun Tzu quote...the best war fought is where you don't blah blah

Now if you actually connect the large dot's it becomes offensive practically to say Chinese don't really like a fight and right this second with it's adversary rampaging and marauding that attitude might be a weakness.


Oh no.

That whole Art of war and Confuciousness stuff doesn't make sense to me with Chinese ambitions. But a century of humiliation is a lot of humiliation. I wonder if given the choice between another century or fighting to the death - what would the Chinese choose? I would pick fighting to the death.

 

[r3alist]

I’m sorry but you are demonstrating immense ignorance of the situation

I think the same too about you

First of all, the US has been trying to disengage from the Middle East since Obama’s pivote to Asia in 2011 precisely because of China.

Look outside the window, the USA due to Israel has never ever been more involved in the middle east, absolutely absurd

Btw, do you know what pivot means? It's not necessarily a decisive or big move, it's a pivot, look it up

The only reason why there hasn’t been an actual war is because China is militarily too powerful.

I won't hurt your feelings

American focus has shifted away from the Middle East

This guy serious?

If China didn’t exist, the US would’ve conquered and occupied three more countries there.

Because of....

 

[r3alist]

That whole Art of war and Confuciousness stuff doesn't make sense to me with Chinese ambitions. But a century of humiliation is a lot of humiliation. I wonder if given the choice between another century or fighting to the death - what would the Chinese choose? I would pick fighting to the death.

It seems a period of comfort has made them war averse or war shy, I don't want to assume ofcourse or be unkind, yet their main adversary is war addicted, I thought it was a useful thing to ponder

 

[r3alist]

China is a businessman. They don't give shit what TF happening anywhere and it is what it is.

Business men will confront a war addicted mammoth war machine with unlimited money?

Just saying


More likely to cut a deal, somehow

 

[tower9]

I think the same too about you



Look outside the window, the USA due to Israel has never ever been more involved in the middle east, absolutely absurd

Btw, do you know what pivot means? It's not necessarily a decisive or big move, it's a pivot, look it up


I won't hurt your feelings



This guy serious?



Because of....

The situation in the Middle East is primarily due to Israel’s aggression. The US has not been militarily involved significantly aside from supplying weapons. The US has constantly refrained from getting dragged in because it wants to focus on China. The reason why Israel has succeeded so well is because the surrounding Arab states are incompetent and Turkey is a backstabbing opportunistic country which militarily intervened to help Israel. Until Turkey intervened, Iran was putting Israel on its back foot.

The Trump administration has already made it clear it doesn’t want to be involved with Syria and this is bc they want to focus on China.

Do you understand the amount of US military assets in east Asia and the constant movement of the US navy through the SCS and off Taiwan? How about all of the anti China campaigns of the past eight years from the trade war to the Uighur psy ops to the Hong Kong riots? How about the quad, aukus and American instigation of India China tensions? There are also many facts about Covid which suggest that it might have been a CIA bio attack. You aren’t aware of all of this because you are completely ignorant about Chinese affairs.

 

[ammar_]

That whole Art of war and Confuciousness stuff doesn't make sense to me with Chinese ambitions. But a century of humiliation is a lot of humiliation. I wonder if given the choice between another century or fighting to the death - what would the Chinese choose? I would pick fighting to the death.

How does fighting to the death do for the Palestinians and constant fighting among Muslims. stop projecting our own misery onto others. It will help nothing. Muslims are suffering a century of humiliation at the hands of the Zionist and all the Muslim leaders seem to care about is wealth and regime change.

 

[r3alist]

The situation in the Middle East is primarily due to Israel’s aggression. The US has not been militarily involved significantly aside from supplying weapons. The US has constantly refrained from getting dragged in because it wants to focus on China.

Huh... come on, they have troops everywhere and bases all over right this moment

Did we imagine Iraq and Afghanistan wars?

 

[r3alist]

Do you understand the amount of US military assets in east Asia and the constant movement of the US navy through the SCS and off Taiwan? How about all of the anti China campaigns of the past eight years from the trade war to the Uighur psy ops to the Hong Kong riots?

This is mild and basic stuff the Arab world confront with less resources and stability

So you must get much much more realistic about what is ahead of you


Btw I keep telling you I am glad for Chinese development

Now look how they passed all limits of decency in Gaza, they supported it fully, so they have limits or rules, do you think?

That's what you face when it begins, if it begins