Venezuela - US Conflict: News, Updates

[FuturePAF]

Per this video it looks like the Chinooks were escorted in by cobras:

P.s. correction, looks like those were blackhawks, all from 160th SOAR

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[FuturePAF]

The so-called 'Spheres of Influence' article on NY Times from May 2025.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/26/us/politics/trump-russia-china.html

Trump’s Vision: One World, Three Powers?​

President Trump’s recent actions and statements suggest he might want an arrangement where the United States, China and Russia each dominate their sphere of influence.

...
His actions and statements suggest he might be envisioning a world in which each of the three so-called great powers — the United States, China and Russia — dominates its part of the globe, some foreign policy analysts say.

It would be a throwback to a 19th-century style of imperial rule.

So which sphere does South Asia fall into?

 

[Persian Gulf]

Trump says one US helicopter was hit and there are injuries among the invading US soldiers

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[j_hungary]

Good point. But Trump is very bold and seems to plan ahead than most.

The problem is, I don't see any point in this operation at all.

I mean, what's the goal, the end game? Is it because of the Drug? Or the oil? Maduro is a dictator; he isn't some Narco kingpin. Lifting him out and putting him out of the equation does nothing to deter those drug barons. Those people will still be doing what they were doing anyway.

And if this is about oil, that need a regime change, and this is a decapitation strike, unless it followed with something, at best you are going to have a civil war inside Venezuela to determine who is the next King, at worse it's just going to be business as usual, dictator is like a crime sydnicate, they don't just give up losing the head, as I said, the best case scenario for the US is basically plunge Venezuela into a Civil War, which at the end it will still be Maduro side rule, just who rules the country is the issue because the opposition wasn't big enough to support this.

I honestly see no points on this operation.

 

[Toxic]

For people say who SOF aren't relevant in neer peer conflict, well they done bag a president of country and transported him back.
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Near peer against the mighty superpower Venezuela...

 

[nibba]

The problem is, I don't see any point in this operation at all.

I mean, what's the goal, the end game? Is it because of the Drug? Or the oil? Maduro is a dictator; he isn't some Narco kingpin. Lifting him out and putting him out of the equation does nothing to deter those drug barons. Those people will still be doing what they were doing anyway.

And if this is about oil, that need a regime change, and this is a decapitation strike, unless it followed with something, at best you are going to have a civil war inside Venezuela to determine who is the next King, at worse it's just going to be business as usual, dictator is like a crime sydnicate, they don't just give up losing the head, as I said, the best case scenario for the US is basically plunge Venezuela into a Civil War, which at the end it will still be Maduro side rule, just who rules the country is the issue because the opposition wasn't big enough to support this.

I honestly see no points on this operation.

USMCA is coming up for renegotiation

Venezuelan crude is sour crude

Canada's only bargaining chip is sour crude from the oil sands

There wont be a civil war. The next leader will bend the knee

 

[j_hungary]

So I guess we are officially in a era where power matters, and international law be damned ? now this is for those who always say I criticize USA, this is again a Foreign policy matter and not USA internal issue hence I am commenting on it. But yeah I disagree with what USA did, it further devalue US position in Global standing and give excuse to others to behave like that, Americans fear China will take Taiwan but USA has bombed several countries all without any UNSC and international law.

We were at that phase a long time ago, just that now we are doing this out in the open.

 

[Meengla]

So which sphere does South Asia fall into?

China's: An Indian video even discussed the 'Spheres of Influence' theory and how bad it would be for India.

 

[Master Chief]

they are scared.

if you keep everything china has. (chokehoold on rare earth, industrial capacity, naval size) but swapped out the population and leadership for an american one

they would have invaded taiwan yesterday

the han have everything but courage

they will build another 100 ships and do another 50 exercises but never pull the trigger

They also occupy 38,000 sq km of Indian land, while being "scared" and "never pulling triggers".

If the "scared" party has achieved all this, what does that make you?

 

[SaadH]

How is it possible to just snatch Maduro and his spouse while they were sleeping and with no casualties ? I have no doubt Mr Maduro was betrayed from within his regime and his few loyalists were the target of the bombings.

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Yup the age old colonial playbook buy out the generals/military from Mir Jaffar to Bajwa/Munira

 

[Toxic]

Welp Can't wait for the operations room video about Maduro's capture

 

[mulj]

The problem is, I don't see any point in this operation at all.

I mean, what's the goal, the end game? Is it because of the Drug? Or the oil? Maduro is a dictator; he isn't some Narco kingpin. Lifting him out and putting him out of the equation does nothing to deter those drug barons. Those people will still be doing what they were doing anyway.

And if this is about oil, that need a regime change, and this is a decapitation strike, unless it followed with something, at best you are going to have a civil war inside Venezuela to determine who is the next King, at worse it's just going to be business as usual, dictator is like a crime sydnicate, they don't just give up losing the head, as I said, the best case scenario for the US is basically plunge Venezuela into a Civil War, which at the end it will still be Maduro side rule, just who rules the country is the issue because the opposition wasn't big enough to support this.

I honestly see no points on this operation.

Monroe doctrine and you need oil for future cloud ai farms it is not that complicated.

 

[Starlord]

It was always so. There was a thin veil on it where either by arm twisting or other means US used to get international “consensus”. Now that veil is being dropped but practically it’s all the same.

It was always International law and human rights violations applies to 3rd world countries, if you have powerful ally you can get away with a literal Genocide and Ethnic cleansing while playing victim, Sad world we live in.

 

[j_hungary]

My thoughts too. Yes, Might is Right has been the way the world has worked but there was some semblance of world order after World War II where America itself played a great role in various UN and non UN international organizations and even generally tried to get the UNSC approvals. Now, slapping a charge on a foreign govt's leader in a local US Court and then grabbing that guy from his bedroom along with this wife??

Well, we did black extraction (things like this) but never in this open, this is between what we did in Panama in the 90s and what we did to OBL in 2012, UN is a non-exist power becuase it depends on UNSC (more or less just the US) to execute it's aim, you cannot be a judge and executioner at the same time, and that is true if you replace US with anyoner else.

 

[东风夜放花千树]

The question is not if but
What China can offer to Trump in exchange for Taiwan?

The Taiwan issue is China's internal affair, and China will not use Taiwan as a bargaining chip with the United States. This does not align with China's fundamental policies.

China and Venezuela have only trade relations; China will not treat Venezuela the way it treats Pakistan. Some military experts believe that India's aggression against Pakistan aims to draw China into the war. This is also why we pay attention to the May War.

We once treated Vietnam the way we treated Pakistan, but Vietnam killed our soldiers and civilians, which led to a war. This was also an important event in the transformation of relations between the two countries. Therefore, China is very careful in its foreign relations. The level of diplomatic relations a country has with China carries different meanings.