Venezuela - US Conflict: News, Updates

[The SC]

What is your point? I never promoted nuclear war. That's insane.

The US is crazy enough to go all the way in a war..if its core interests are threatened..

 

[battalion25]

Excuse me, but all of this is completely subjective garbage.

The Arabs ruled Spain because it was right next door. Is Spain next door to China? Are you crazy? How is that a barometer of cultural dominance.

Also Southern Spain is a CORNER of Europe. It isn't "most of Europe". It is less than 3% of Europe.

Also, to this day, the length between Western China to Eastern China is 3100 miles. That's the length from Morrocco to Iraq. The Arab world. Except the difference is that China is unified. From the West, the natives are Caucasian Tajik peoples and to the far East, they are Manchurian reindeer herders. Do you understand how vast China is?

Also, nice try trying to label the Zionists as "Arab Jews". Everyone knows that Israel was founded by crazed European Jews, however they took on the Arab Jews and converted them to Zionism, and now the Mizrahi Jews are actually the most hostile and most anti-Arab segment of Israeli society.

Israel humiliates the Arab world every day and nothing is done about it. 400 million Arabs just watch 5 million Jews murder Arab kids every day and nothing is done.

Please fix that problem before you lecture China about cowardice.

Arabs actully ruled all the way upto Current Switzerland that is basically central Europe.

Arab seafearers ruled Switzerland for up to 100 years not many people know about this.

If you add Islamic influence thru arabs then they ruled half of Europe.. Russia, Hungary, Romania, Greece, Serbia, Bosnia, Croatia, Slovenia, Austria, Montenegro, Albania, Bulgaria, Moldova, Ukraine, Crimea, Macedonia, Sicily, Spain, Parts of France, Swizterland, Georgia and Armenia.

The Arabs colonized the Spainards and Portuguese who in return colonized the Americas including founded USA. All the ship building and navigations were inherited from their arab overlords because the Andalusians were famous for building extremely LARGE SHIPS and had the best navy in the world for about 700 years

 

[_Arabia_]

One of the few pro-China regimes and figures (Maduro) gets kidnapped (literally) by the US the day after meeting with Chinese officials. Zero Chinese action prior or afterwards. Zero help (of any worth) to Venezuela as well.

Similarly with Iran.

Same story with Russia, tiny North Korea did more for Russia than China.

A disturbing pattern is developing of pro-China regimes, when shit hits the fan and support really matters, are either abandoned or simply ignored.

That is not the behavior of a superpower that aspires to knock the US down from its perch.

That is besides what I otherwise wrote in terms of being disliked (by large) by your closest kin (Japanese, Koreans, Koreans), not being able to control or dominate your own vicinity, not even mentioned the topic of Taiwan yet, compared to its historical power, size and population, having had a surprisingly small impact on the region in terms of religion, language, culture, influence in general etc.

For a country with the second largest population of the world, second largest economy and one of the largest landmasses (third or fourth largest country), this is simply not enough to overtake the US.

So whatever caused this to occur historically (throughout the millennia) and which remains in place today, need to change in order for China to take the next step and truly challenge the US globally.

If that behavior or policy does not change, this aim will remain an illusion.

Arabs, Papuans, Eskimos, Indonesians, Canadians etc. are here completely irrelevant to the points raised by me and countless of other analysts and people. I even had those discussions with Chinese people in person where they admitted to what caused this historical development. Namely mostly being inward looking as a society and civilization. Which, speaking about Arabs, is very unlike Arabs. Hence the Arab and Muslim world of today. Hence why you have Black Christian Africans in Congo speaking a lingua franca language that is half Arabic and half local African language (Swahili).

Not to mention the Arabic influence on Spanish. 20-25% of it being Arabic too. Which is why you have Arabic town names all across Latin America and even the US (Texas, California, Florida, New Mexico, etc.) to this day. All due to Arabs not being an inward looking civilization.

Same story with European powers, UK being the greatest example of what 1 tiny nation state can do.

That was merely a comparison to peoples/civilizations that had far fewer people (initially) than the Chinese and continue to have, yet had a larger outreach due to difference of governance and culture.

Heck, the Japanese even for a long time had a philosophy where travel abroad or contact with non-Japanese were sentenced by death. So deep was their self-isolation.

 

[tower9]

Nonsense. The length of the Arab world is almost 15.000 km. Literally spanning 2 continents and two oceans (Atlantic and Indian Ocean). Not sure what sources you are using.

The heartland of China is Eastern China which is fairly small. Where 95% of the Chinese people (Han Chinese) live. Xinjiang, Inner Mongolia and Tibet are all inhabited (or where) by local non-Han Chinese. Most of China's geography is composed of those regions which are mostly mountain or desert.

The Arab world is larger than China. In fact 40% larger. Let alone the entire Muslim world (an Arab legacy as well).

But you desperately want to make this into an Arab-China discussion due to your usual Arab obsession but that has no interest from my part.

No try, 2/3 of all Israelis are Arab Jews ethnically. Let alone the 20% of Arab Palestinians and Bedouins that are "Israelis". Who founded what is irrelevant here.

550 million, by 2050, almost 1 billion. Not 400.

You are hallucinating again. Nobody mentioned cowardice ever (I did not), you did that to change the topic of the discussion.

Now, outside of obsessing about Arabs, can you counter anything I wrote in regard to China and the original topic which was China's historical tendency towards inward looking, lack of influence outside of its borders compared to its gigantic population, almost lack of any Chinese influence in the vicinity and among your closet ethnic kin (Koreans, Japanese, Vietnamese etc.) and the passivity of the Chinese government when it comes to aiding pro-China states and regimes?

How do you expect to challenge the US when you cannot control your own vicinity and most of your closest ethnic kin do not see you favorably?

Again, please stop making up facts. https://www.distancefromto.net/distance-from-iraq-to-morocco

Do you think the world was just made yesterday? We are basically emerging from 300 years of complete Western domination. China's neighbors were once its vassals, then the Chinese empire collapsed. That collapse created a power vacuum that was filled by Japan and the European powers, then by the US. This is no different than the USSR collapsing and its former satellite states getting captured by the West and being oriented in an anti-Russian stance. Except this happened in East Asia over 100 years ago when China's empire collapsed.

This world order is currently being threatened by China's return to power, which is ongoing. China's imperative is to fully develop itself first in order to become as powerful as possible, only in that way, will China be able to change the world order in its favor. We are well on this journey but it's still ongoing.

 

[Forsvaret]

Simply put there are no excused for this timid behavior of China towards pro-China states.

Cannot be said better
US was a sleeping giant when Japanese surprised attacked it during WW2, forcing it to awaken & never sleep again. What’s China’s excuse this time?

 

[tower9]

Cannot be said better
US was a sleeping giant when Japanese hit them, forcing it to awaken & never to sleep again. What’s China’s excuse this time?

The West can always try to bomb Shanghai and see what happens. Why do you think it doesn't? The US doesn't hesitate to bomb anywhere else, does it?

 

[battalion25]

This world order is currently being threatened by China's return to power, which is ongoing.

This is true

 

[tower9]

Arabs actully ruled all the way upto Current Switzerland that is basically central Europe.

Arab seafearers ruled Switzerland for up to 100 years not many people know about this.

If you add Islamic influence thru arabs then they ruled half of Europe.. Russia, Hungary, Romania, Greece, Serbia, Bosnia, Croatia, Slovenia, Austria, Montenegro, Albania, Bulgaria, Moldova, Ukraine, Crimea, Macedonia, Sicily, Spain, Parts of France, Swizterland, Georgia and Armenia.

The Arabs colonized the Spainards and Portuguese who in return colonized the Americas including founded USA. All the ship building and navigations were inherited from their arab overlords because the Andalusians were famous for building extremely LARGE SHIPS.

Arabs never ruled Switzerland. They might have briefly ventured up there but never held it for any significant time.

Also, if you are going to add all the Balkans because of Islamic influence which was due to Turkish invasions, not Arab, I can basically claim anything the Japanese or Mongols conquered then.

 

[battalion25]

Arabs never ruled Switzerland. They might have briefly ventured up there but never held it for any significant time.

Also, if you are going to add all the Balkans because of Islamic influence which was due to Turkish invasions, not Arab, I can basically claim anything the Japanese or Mongols conquered then.

Islamic influence came from arabs that is why.

Yes the Arabs held Switzerland close to one century

 

[tower9]

Arabs came from Islamic influence that is why.

Yes the Arabs held Switzerland close to one century

The Japanese and Mongols were Asian buddhists, so what?

In the end, those were different empires and different peoples. Turkish people are racist to Arabs, so what's the point of grouping their achievements together. That's crazy.

 

[royalharris]

One of the few pro-China regimes and figures (Maduro) gets kidnapped (literally) by the US the day after meeting with Chinese officials. Zero Chinese action prior or afterwards. Zero help (of any worth) to Venezuela as well.

Similarly with Iran.

Same story with Russia, tiny North Korea did more for Russia than China.

A disturbing pattern is developing of pro-China regimes, when shit hits the fan and support really matters, are either abandoned or simply ignored.

That is not the behavior of a superpower that aspires to knock the US down from its perch.

That is besides what I otherwise wrote in terms of being disliked (by large) by your closest kin (Japanese, Koreans, Koreans), not being able to control or dominate your own vicinity, not even mentioned the topic of Taiwan yet, compared to its historical power, size and population, having had a surprisingly small impact on the region in terms of religion, language, culture, influence in general etc.

For a country with the second largest population of the world, second largest economy and one of the largest landmasses (third or fourth largest country), this is simply not enough to overtake the US.

So whatever caused this to occur historically (throughout the millennia) and which remains in place today, need to change in order for China to take the next step and truly challenge the US globally.

If that behavior or policy does not change, this aim will remain an illusion.

Arabs, Papuans, Eskimos, Indonesians, Canadians etc. are here completely irrelevant to the points raised by me and countless of other analysts and people. I even had those discussions with Chinese people in person where they admitted to what caused this historical development. Namely mostly being inward looking as a society and civilization. Which, speaking about Arabs, is very unlike Arabs. Hence the Arab and Muslim world of today. Hence why you have Black Christian Africans in Congo speaking a lingua franca language that is half Arabic and half local African language (Swahili).

Not to mention the Arabic influence on Spanish. 20-25% of it being Arabic too. Which is why you have Arabic town names all across Latin America and even the US (Texas, California, Florida, New Mexico, etc.) to this day. All due to Arabs not being an inward looking civilization.

Same story with European powers, UK being the greatest example of what 1 tiny nation state can do.

That was merely a comparison to peoples/civilizations that had far fewer people (initially) than the Chinese and continue to have, yet had a larger outreach due to difference of governance and culture.

Heck, the Japanese even for a long time had a philosophy where travel abroad or contact with non-Japanese were sentenced by death. So deep was their self-isolation.

It is merely a normal trade relationship with a country on the other side of the ocean

Just look at North Korea: which country in the world dares to attack it
Which Middle Eastern country dares to stand tall and do what it want to do like NK

 

[battalion25]

The Japanese and Mongols were Asian buddhists, so what?

In the end, those were different empires and different peoples. Turkish people are racist to Arabs, so what's the point of grouping their achievements together. That's crazy.

Even if we were to decouple them. The Arabs have reached a global hegemonic golden ages twice but the Chinese none. Which means they are much superior civilization on the global stage historically speaking

 

[tower9]

One of the few pro-China regimes and figures (Maduro) gets kidnapped (literally) by the US the day after meeting with Chinese officials. Zero Chinese action prior or afterwards. Zero help (of any worth) to Venezuela as well.

Similarly with Iran.

Same story with Russia, tiny North Korea did more for Russia than China.

A disturbing pattern is developing of pro-China regimes, when shit hits the fan and support really matters, are either abandoned or simply ignored.

That is not the behavior of a superpower that aspires to knock the US down from its perch.

That is besides what I otherwise wrote in terms of being disliked (by large) by your closest kin (Japanese, Koreans, Koreans), not being able to control or dominate your own vicinity, not even mentioned the topic of Taiwan yet, compared to its historical power, size and population, having had a surprisingly small impact on the region in terms of religion, language, culture, influence in general etc.

For a country with the second largest population of the world, second largest economy and one of the largest landmasses (third or fourth largest country), this is simply not enough to overtake the US.

So whatever caused this to occur historically (throughout the millennia) and which remains in place today, need to change in order for China to take the next step and truly challenge the US globally.

If that behavior or policy does not change, this aim will remain an illusion.

Arabs, Papuans, Eskimos, Indonesians, Canadians etc. are here completely irrelevant to the points raised by me and countless of other analysts and people. I even had those discussions with Chinese people in person where they admitted to what caused this historical development. Namely mostly being inward looking as a society and civilization. Which, speaking about Arabs, is very unlike Arabs. Hence the Arab and Muslim world of today. Hence why you have Black Christian Africans in Congo speaking a lingua franca language that is half Arabic and half local African language (Swahili).

Not to mention the Arabic influence on Spanish. 20-25% of it being Arabic too. Which is why you have Arabic town names all across Latin America and even the US (Texas, California, Florida, New Mexico, etc.) to this day. All due to Arabs not being an inward looking civilization.

Same story with European powers, UK being the greatest example of what 1 tiny nation state can do.

That was merely a comparison to peoples/civilizations that had far fewer people (initially) than the Chinese and continue to have, yet had a larger outreach due to difference of governance and culture.

Heck, the Japanese even for a long time had a philosophy where travel abroad or contact with non-Japanese were sentenced by death. So deep was their self-isolation.

Again, these are very shallow and subjective opinions that completely ignore the way the world actually works.

Do you understand what makes the West so powerful? It isn't just military power, it's the total control on global financial, technological and social structures. This is why whenever a Middle Eastern, African or Latin American country rebels against the West, they are easily isolated and destroyed.

No one understands this game more than China. NO COUNTRY has come close to China in creating an alternative financial and technological capability that can match the West. However, the West is still far ahead when it comes to political control due to the invasive Zionist influence in all of the corridors of power throughout the world. Even in this environment, China has continually become more powerful and now possesses technological capability that can match or even surpass what the West has. In addition, it is building it's own financial infrastructure, which is obviously what is actually driving a lot of Trump's actions, because dedollarization would basically be a death knell for the Empire.

So say what you want to say. I think China's leaders know what they are doing and the results speak for themselves.

 

[hasssanali8998]

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This tweet is absolutely hilarious, didn't even mention the Americans, if this tweet was your only source of info you would think Albania was invading Venezuela.

Pakistanis in Venezuela nigga who tf going to Venezuela

This is amusing given the fact that it was Pakistan that nominated Trump for the Nobel peace prize.

Will they revoke that nomination now?

you guys will be reminding us , forever huh . let it go bruh

 

[tower9]

Even if we were to decouple them. The Arabs have reached a global hegemonic golden ages twice but the Chinese none. Which means they are much superior civilization on the global stage historically speaking

Stop being a typical loud mouthed but stupid Arab and understand that your opinion is completely subjective. You are referring only to your own corner of the world. The Arab world never influenced East Asia and your "golden ages" have nothing to do with China.

China had many golden ages from the Han, Tang, Song, Ming to the early Qing dynasties, and today it is united and risen again. Where is the Arab empire?