Visualizing the Decline of U.S. Manufacturing, by Sector (2002-2022)

[FHN]

China's factories are closing down and moving, to other regions in China. Not to Vietnam or Mexico. coastal provinces are moving up the value chain while factories are moving into interior parts of china.

 

[Beijingwalker]

Yeah but the US already replanted trees 100 years ago.

My entire state was farmland from edge to edge.
But now it is mostly forest.

Are you serious? how long a history US has? it's just all jungles barely 300 years ago.

 

[FHN]

Vietnam is also a beneficiary of Chinese companies moving assembly lines to avoid tariffs lol. Factories in Vietnam are owned by Chinese companies they are just hiring the locals.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Are you serious? how long a history US has? it's just all jungles barely 300 years ago.

So the US planting trees is now irrelevant?
How much coverage we have now is irrelevant?

All of this is irrelevant? For hundreds of miles in all directions? Which was once bare land?

Meanwhile do you really think your populated areas have more trees than 100 years ago?

 

[Beijingwalker]

So the US planting trees is now irrelevant?
How much coverage we have now is irrelevant?

We have thousands of years active human activities, but still we are now the biggest reforestation contributor in the world. New world countries are not comparable to old world countries in this regard, they were all forests and jungles not long ago.

 

[FHN]

Chinese cities are becoming greener

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

China's factories are closing down and moving, to other regions in China. Not to Vietnam or Mexico. coastal provinces are moving up the value chain while factories are moving into interior parts of china.

I'm not surprised. They are doing what the US did. Too much pollution a problem in populated areas. Move it elsewhere and "magically" the pollution levels drop. Yeah, at the expense of that same pollution being dealt with somewhere else.

Yes, Beijing "solved" its air pollution problem...

People can't drink from the groundwater in areas in the US that had high industrialization due to contamination.

But we have stopped it from growing and plenty of homes for future generations can safely drink from groundwater reservoirs instead of relying on bottled water.

 

[FHN]

https://m.youtube.com/@WalkEast/videos

This is probably the best channel to see what china is like

Small towns, big cities, nature u got it all. Chinese cities are perfect mix of ancient architectures and New high rise buildings. And u don't see garbage on the street.rural china is not dirty at all mostly elders live there anyway and kids. And chinese cities are going green and more EVs are roaming the street. China even broke the record for 1 million EV sale in a single month lol

 

[FHN]

China doesn't have a homeless crisis even if u don't have a home u can always go back to ancestral home in rural part of china. In china family value is everything. U always have someone to fall back on. Rural China is still cleaner than US cities plus no crime or homeless people.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

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China doesn't have a homeless crisis even if u don't have a home u can always go back to ancestral home in rural part of china. In china family value is everything. U always have someone to fall back on. Rural China is still cleaner than US cities plus no crime or homeless people.

Are you now going to post every irrelevant thing you can think of to sidetrack this "decline in manufacturing" thread?

hey lets post Doom Eternal since that is about as relevant...

 

[FHN]

You now going to post every irrelevant thing you can think of to sidetrack this manufacturing thread?

hey lets post video games too!!!

Lmao u wanna see pollution in china??? Check em videos out lol

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Lmao u wanna see pollution in china??? Check em videos out lol

That's like me saying if you want to see the state of Black America just checkout this video:

Yep, this tells the story...no problems here...

 

[DDG-80]

India doesn't have much manufacturing and heavy industries

India may not be at China's level in terms of sheer manufacturing scale, but we definitely have strong capabilities in heavy industries. For example, Indian engineering giant Larsen & Toubro shipped the world's heaviest ethylene oxide reactors to China for BASF, a German chemical giant.

 

[Zsari]

LOL! I specifically mention water/land pollution issues and you talk about air pollution and ignore everything I talked about...

This Beijingwalker guy...so typical!!

CGTN:

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Irreversible groundwater pollution is a heavy price for future Chinese generations to pay just so some anonymous kid in a foreign land gets a new pair of shoes. You just can't make that connection.

For water quality, I refer you to the channel below, from an American who participated in a local Chinese environmental group back in the 2000s. Last year, she traced her steps and revisited the sites that were once heavily polluted and noted the significant difference. As to ground water contamination you should worry more about the amount of toxic chemicals pumped into the ground from fracking.

 

[Thinking]

US is pretty green. Can speak from experience. Wilderness is everywhere.