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[Lulldapull]

No they're not making themselves stronk at all.

You think they can stand against the Zio's for a week on their own?

Really?

Are you kidding?

Diplomatically they seem to have equidistant Headroom with Europe and USA, the Europeans would not attack Turkey no chance, and the Americans would not support Israel to attack Turkey, and turkey is too important to lose to Russia and China, because that would be a dagger into the NATO and western security architecture. Turkey has cards to play, I know you won't like hearing that, Iran also for the time being has cards to play, they both do

So in a 1 Vs 1, are you saying Israel would do what?

@r3alist

Jack shit would happen!

Russia/ China don't give a shit about Iran, why would they give a fuckk about do rupay ka AL-Turkiya?

Come on bhai.......get real no?

 

[Lulldapull]

Horribly racist behavior toward a poor Indian traveler to Argentina. Toxic comments directed toward him. Absolutely shameful behavior of Argentinians. Locals had to intervene and make him feel comfortable.

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[r3alist]

Russia/ China don't give a shit about Iran, why would they give a fuckk about do rupay ka AL-Turkiya?

Come on bhai.......get real no?

Never said they would, but will NATO want NATO without turkey init and closer to china Russia, basically that is always a card they have....

 

[Lulldapull]

Never said they would, but will NATO want NATO without turkey init and closer to china Russia, basically that is always a card they have....

Aray bhai russia China got no friends and after seeing what China did to us in CPEC swindle, nobody wants to deal with China. We are $50 billion or so in debt from cpec and the highest cost electricity per unit on this planet. That cpec was the worst thing that has happened to us. Etemaad he hutt gya hae China say Hamara!

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

A whole new meaning to the term "cleanup in Aisle 5":

Outrage over LA supermarket’s despicable act after shopper dropped dead in bakery aisle

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[r3alist]

Aray bhai russia China got no friends and after seeing what China did to us in CPEC swindle, nobody wants to deal with China. We are $50 billion or so in debt from cpec and the highest cost electricity per unit on this planet. That cpec was the worst thing that has happened to us. Etemaad he hutt gya hae China say Hamara!

You mean the other way around where Pakistan to a good extent mismanaged cpec and the Chinese remain patient and hopeful of improvement.

Back to the point, China and Russia represent an alternative concept of a block, and that's exactly the signaling modi gave with his trip and picture with Putin and xi, you are excessively deterministic about how the world is, it is verging on nihilistic

 

[Lulldapull]

You mean the other way around where Pakistan to a good extent mismanaged cpec and the Chinese remain patient and hopeful of improvement.

Back to the point, China and Russia represent an alternative concept of a block, and that's exactly the signaling modi gave with his trip and picture with Putin and xi, you are excessively deterministic about how the world is, it is verging on nihilistic

Oh bhai how could we have mismanaged, when we had nothing to manage?

We didn’t need CPEC and could never afford it anyway.

Russia nay steel mill luggaee and we couldn’t manage nor afford it either.

Aik hukumati idara nahi chalta hum say.

Look what we have done with PIA or PR.

 

[r3alist]

Look what we have done with PIA or PR

Are you going to blame China for that.

Well the above reason why PIA is in the doldrums is probably the reason why cpec did not materialize economically

Let me just make a statement I am fairly confident on..... China is more sincere and well meaning on Pakistan's economic betterment than some of the Pakistani establishment...... That's reality, the reasoning is pragmatic but the intent is reality.

So back to the prior point, if turkey were a NATO stooge and that's the only identity they have why would they buy the s400 or developed their own fighter jets?

You were more correct 20 years ago, but things change and you have to look at the directional momentum

 

[Lulldapull]

Are you going to blame China for that.

Well the above reason why PIA is in the doldrums is probably the reason why cpec did not materialize economically

Let me just make a statement I am fairly confident on..... China is more sincere and well meaning on Pakistan's economic betterment than some of the Pakistani establishment...... That's reality, the reasoning is pragmatic but the intent is reality.

So back to the prior point, if turkey were a NATO stooge and that's the only identity they have why would they buy the s400 or developed their own fighter jets?

You were more correct 20 years ago, but things change and you have to look at the directional momentum

Bhai China is just a clearance agent/ investor for the US. They move in when the US requires them to provide an alternative to the Western offer or in case the western offer does not exist or is withdrawn. China is no competitor to the US, but a trade and business partner of the west.

AL-Turkiya is just a small fry, its got no say on anything. Totally dependent on the west for survival.