Why all countries especially small Muslim states flocking to Pakistan for defense. A debate

[BHAN85]

because nukes is the ultimate trust, a country with nukes can't be destroyed without destroy half world in the process.

 

[RescueRanger]

 

[PakFactor]

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That looks like a JH-7, hazart @MastanKhan would be happy.

 

[RescueRanger]

That looks like a JH-7, hazart @MastanKhan would be happy.

I miss Mr. Mastan Khan.

 

[Maarkhoor]

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Joke aside but India did their best to show the world that our weapon systems are the best in reach.

 

[Maarkhoor]

Makkah Defense, Al Badr Pack, Libya arms deal etc etc

Now India

 

[Owaiz]

Why all countries especially small Muslim states flocking to Pakistan for defense. A debate

My point of view is may be the knew more about results of Operation Sindoor than what we told to media.

If you need a security guard , who else will you will go to but some security agency that advertises its services and has a track record of having rented security guards to others ?

 

[Owaiz]

India and Pakistan contribute bulk of the soldiers to UN peace keeping forces. It is a tradition from British times to fight for someone else. We do it without external or lofty motivations. These tiny gulf countries can only dream of it

You are describing what, in less lofty language, are called mercenaries or bhaade ki fauj.

 

[Batman]

India and Pakistan contribute bulk of the soldiers to UN peace keeping forces. It is a tradition from British times to fight for someone else. We do it without external or lofty motivations. These tiny gulf countries can only dream of it

I agree that Pakistan is indeed a major Muslim country and provides important services to the Muslim world. Its role may grow even further in the future. However, India is a completely different ball game altogether: a $4 trillion economy, a $10 billion space economy, around $5 billion in defence exports, the only country apart from the US and China to operate two aircraft carriers, and a country with nuclear submarines.

I do not undermine Pakistan's importance in the Muslim world, but India is on a completely different scale, with capabilities that go far beyond those of the entire Muslim world combined.

 

[MH.Yang]

India is on a completely different scale, with capabilities that go far beyond those of the entire Muslim world combined.

The entire Islamic world spans across Europe, Asia, and Africa. Across the Pacific, Indian, Atlantic, and Mediterranean oceans. Having a population of over 2 billion. Control the vast majority of oil sources. Controlling Malacca and Suez. This is a big guy on par with China&USA. As for India, you should sit with South Korea and Japan.

 

[Pakistanithinktank]

Why all countries especially small Muslim states flocking to Pakistan for defense. A debate

My point of view is may be the knew more about results of Operation Sindoor than what we told to media.

Bhai Jaan, can you explain your points so we can discuss it?

Times are changing

The world is changing

Pakistan, Indonesia, Turkey, Iran, Egypt, GCC, Turkic world, Arab world and the wider Muslim world needs to rise

We have mutual enemies and we need to plan


That's what's happening now

Europe is ageing, the U.S is erratic, both are lurching to the right
We have enemies like Zionists, hindutva and white supremacists etc


Now is the time for Muslim countries to make a bold move and Pakistan is central to this plan

So you believe that we have a common enemy? Who is the common enemy? Is hindutva and white supremacists are common enemy of IRAN and Egypt?

 

[MH.Yang]

I was not talking about GDP but techological achievements, For example no muslim out of 1.6 billion muslim population has ever won a Noble Prize in Science or Economics, Here is the list of Indians who won Noble Prize in Science and Economics.

• Chandrasekhara Venkata Raman — Physics (1930)
• Har Gobind Khorana — Physiology or Medicine (1968)
• Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar — Physics (1983)
• Amartya Sen — Economic Sciences (1998)
• Venki Ramakrishnan — Chemistry (2009)
• Abhijit Banerjee — Economic Sciences (2019).
• Rajendra Kumar Pachauri - Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC)

These are all of Indian descent, not Indians. If Indians need to leave India in order to succeed, it just proves India's weakness.

 

[Musings]

I agree that Pakistan is indeed a major Muslim country and provides important services to the Muslim world. Its role may grow even further in the future. However, India is a completely different ball game altogether: a $4 trillion economy, a $10 billion space economy, around $5 billion in defence exports, the only country apart from the US and China to operate two aircraft carriers, and a country with nuclear submarines.

I do not undermine Pakistan's importance in the Muslim world, but India is on a completely different scale, with capabilities that go far beyond those of the entire Muslim world combined.

Nobody brought India into the discussion apart from Indians. Its on literally every thread. Bringing india into the conversation is indeed degrading to Pakistans reputation as an army. Its like comparing apples and pears. India has a world reputation of being a shit incompetent tribe with massive holes. Stop degrading the point and bringing yourselves into the conversation.
Multi ID dont go their.

 

[MH.Yang]

Muslims also leave their home countries, so why don't they achieve the same success if winning a Nobel Prize is simply a matter of moving abroad? Millions of Pakistani Muslims live in Western countries, yet why none of them won Nobel Prize in science? It's not just about resources; culture and ideology also play a role.

We Chinese people, even when we were the poorest and weakest, did not consider the achievements of overseas Chinese people as the achievements of local Chinese people.

Sorry, we cannot understand your Indian vanity. Our culture is different, and that behavior often makes us feel ashamed.

 

[PK781]

Stick to the topic