Why should Pakistan accept a British criminal?

[VCheng]

If the PMLN govt now makes such demands from one of their masters, then where would the Sherif Clan run to when they are not in power anymore? The British will deport the whole Sharif Family the next time a Real government comes to power in Pakistan and wants to put these thieves in prisons for thousands of years for their crimes.

That may sound plausible to you, but I must regard it as merely hypothetical at this point.

Geopolotics is determined from a point of hard power and the potential of a damage a country can do or take.

I can agree with the above.

 

[delta2]

That may sound plausible to you, but I must regard it as merely hypothetical at this point.



I can agree with the above.

Many things that are not plausible end up happening as a certainty especially in Pakistan. The country is at a boiling point and its society is shaking like a powder keg. The society is in a state of flux and the laws of physics, and existence, require it to set in a balanced state.

All it really takes is a few good, or in Pakistan's case, a few angry men.

 

[VCheng]

The country is at a boiling point and its society is shaking like a powder keg.

Okay. Do you have any actual evidence to show that is indeed the case?

 

[delta2]

Okay. Do you have any actual evidence to show that is indeed the case?

When was the last time you were in a rural area in Pakistan and heard the younger generation talk in the streets?

 

[delta2]

Okay. Do you have any actual evidence to show that is indeed the case?

The coup that resulted in the current puppet govt.! What do you think were the real resons for the coup?

 

[VCheng]

When was the last time you were in a rural area in Pakistan and heard the younger generation talk in the streets?

So all you have is "street talk" by young people for evidence? LOL.

The coup that resulted in the current puppet govt.! What do you think were the real resons for the coup?

That was how many years ago? The country seems to have moved on just fine since then. No boiling. No shaking kegs or anything.

 

[delta2]

So all you have is "street talk" by young people for evidence? LOL.



That was how many years ago? The country seems to have moved on just fine since then. No boiling. No shaking kegs or anything.

So you clearly have not spoken to any every day kids in Pakistan? You know what that means? They are hearing their parents talk like this.

Who else do you think determines the future of a nation, if not kids? And that too kids that are politically informed and show anger and disappointment at a political situation. If the country has "moved on", then why is the guy still in prison and his name is not uttered in the power halls?

Societies react slowly as a collective, not as a sudden firebrand. The build up to anger is just beginning now.

You know what the average teenager is obsessed with in Canada?

 

[VCheng]

So you clearly have not spoken to any every day kids in Pakistan?

You know what the average teenager is obsessed with in Canada?

Who I speak to, or what the average teenager is obsessed with, is not the topic here and hence irrelevant, and it is not evidence of any kind.

Let us stay with the claim YOU made:

The country is at a boiling point and its society is shaking like a powder keg.

Where is the evidence to support the claim you made?

 

[delta2]

So all you have is "street talk" by young people for evidence? LOL.



That was how many years ago? The country seems to have moved on just fine since then. No boiling. No shaking kegs or anything.

Oh bhai sahb, have you not seen the looks on the faces of parents when their young son has to risk his life in order to go abroad to some foreign land in order to find a simple f$kng job? Do you know how much anger and anguish that causes in a family? Do you not know that people now understand that it is not like the 1980s or 1990s anymore where going abroad was a sure guarantee?

Even in the ancient Roman days, whenever there was a protest, the ruling class only asked if there were any angry women in the crowd or not.

Even little girls are angry in Pakistan bro, no wonder you are so far from people that you cannot even see the anger in the eyes of little girls.

 

[VCheng]

Oh bhai sahb, have you not seen the looks on the faces of parents when their young son has to risk his life in order to go abroad to some foreign land in order to find a simple f$kng job? Do you know how much anger and anguish that causes in a family? Do you not know that people now understand that it is not like the 1980s or 1990s anymore where going abroad was a sure guarantee?

Even in the ancient Roman days, whenever there was a protest, the ruling class only asked if there were any angry women in the crowd or not.

Even little girls are angry in Pakistan bro, no wonder you are so far from people that you cannot even see the anger in the eyes of little girls.

So all you have is empty claims of anger and frustration, but no real evidence.

I thought so. We are done here, I think. Thanks.

 

[delta2]

Who I speak to, or what the average teenager is obsessed with, is not the topic here and hence irrelevant, and it is not evidence of any kind.

Let us stay with the claim YOU made:



Where is the evidence to support the claim you made?

The latest coup in Pakistan, that resulted in about 30 thousand or so arrests, late night raids, forced disappearances of people. You think betrayals like this go away without retribution?

It took a decade before labourers and every day people eventually went after General Ayoub. Obviously there were lesser distractions to dampen and delay people's anger. And obviously there are more distractions to delay the people's anger and reaction at present. But they will riot sooner than you think.

 

[delta2]

So all you have is empty claims of anger and frustration, but no real evidence.

I thought so. We are done here, I think. Thanks.

What form of evidence do you require?

List your criteria and what you qualify as evidence, so that I can inspect your statement and determine its validity.

 

[delta2]

So all you have is empty claims of anger and frustration, but no real evidence.

I thought so. We are done here, I think. Thanks.

Yes, the younger population in Bangladesh was only angry and frustrated LOL. According to your logic then the Bangladeshi ruling party vacated its power seats willingly to go play golf in India?

If you want evidence, be specific and exact and tell me the criteria for it.

 

[Corax]

Some folks are suggesting we could buy the Typhoon to replace the Viper. All it takes is an incident like this and the UK will use its leverage to get what it wants.

 

[VCheng]

Some folks are suggesting we could buy the Typhoon to replace the Viper. All it takes is an incident like this and the UK will use its leverage to get what it wants.

Well, being free of US hardware may be a good thing overall in exchange. May be.