Yemen Civil War News and Discussion.. an evolving situation

When Saudi Arabia bombed every airport in Yemen you said nothing, but now they respond you are upset?


Moral posturing card is done, weaponising past grievances cannot always be used

Saudi got LOADS of criticism at the time who said it was ok

This situation is much more regionally consequential, everyone has a grievance
 
When Saudi Arabia bombed every airport in Yemen you said nothing, but now they respond you are upset?

Yes Saudi Arabia must stop bombing on Yemen. I don't understand what is the end game for all of these Middle east situations, sigh man.

Killing civilians and innocent people must be avoided at all cost!
 
That's a partial view of the whole situation. Why Saudi bombed airport? Let's expand on that first. Iranians were threatening to block Bab AL Mandab through Houthis. An Iranian military plane with military advisors on it were trying to land on that airport despite Saudi repeated warnings that no Iranian planes were to land in yemen. All the lectures are only reserved for Saudis?

Is Yemen a province of Saudi Arabia?

The Saudis and Gulfies, with the full backing of the reigning world order, have tried everything to subdue the Houthis for close to a decade—and failed. The muscle power that the Saudis and Gulfies had relied upon to throw their weight around in the Muslim world entered the ring one too many times and tapped out.

The Saudis were doing the right thing by staying ringside and simply watching the rounds unfold. The prudent thing for them to do was to accept the new reality, be patient, and mould things over time to their long-term benefit. The Mecca Accords gave the Saudis the assurance they needed, but MBS got too excited and wrote a cheque of grandeur that reality could not cash. Not only has he put his kingdom in unnecessary danger, but he has also embarrassed Pakistan and Turkey with his adventurism.

Military alliances aren't built overnight. They require years of training, logistics, and coordination to build a cohesive multinational military force. The idea of Pakistan throwing its soldiers as meat into the battlefield is disgraceful, and the acceptance of that idea by some Pakistanis here is an even bigger disgrace.

Pakistan must abide by its commitments to defend the Holy Mosques and Saudi Arabia—but defence only. Pakistan and its military cannot, and must not, under any circumstances become tools of aggression and conquest in the hands of Arab princes and despots.
 
Pakistan must abide by its commitments to defend the Holy Mosques and Saudi Arabia—but defence only. Pakistan and its military cannot, and must not, under any circumstances become tools of aggression and conquest in the hands of Arab princes and despots.

Do you realize Saudi is under attack and as per MDA, Pakistan is bound to help Saudia?
 
And It amazes me that how Iranians and Pro-iranians conveniently ignores the fact that it was Iran airplane defying Saudi orders which was most probably delivering Military advisors and weapon shipments, not to land at San'aa airport led to this mess.

Let's be neutral if you wish this upon Saudi then say with conviction that very airport hosting Iranian military advisors and shipments is a legitimate target for Saudi and western forces.
This is truly a very "interesting" perspective.

1. Saudi Arabia established a no-fly zone over another country's airspace. What kind of action is this? Of course, if we set aside current international rules and adopt the "might makes right" mentality of the law of the jungle, then such a move is feasible. However, the prerequisite is that you must consistently maintain that stance.

2. When an Iranian flight intrudes into a no-fly zone, the standard responses employed by other nations in similar situations include issuing radio warnings, scrambling fighter jets to intercept and drive the aircraft away, or even shooting it down directly...
Did we see Saudi Arabia take any direct action against this flight? No.
The Iranian flight landed safely and picked up Houthi personnel. Saudi Arabia remained silent once again, taking no direct action.
When the Iranian flight returned with the Houthi personnel, it once again violated the no-fly zone. Saudi Arabia remained silent, taking no direct action.
But this time, they sent their air force to bomb the airfield...

This is a coward's game!

The Saudi-backed Yemeni government forces couldn't defeat this guerrilla force, and even when Saudi Arabia intervened directly, it still couldn't win. Now, they have actually invoked the MDA agreement to rope in their allies—all to face an opponent that is nothing more than a guerrilla force wearing flip-flops...

* I do not support or oppose either side; I am simply analyzing issues of military strategy.
 
Do you realize Saudi is under attack and as per MDA, Pakistan is bound to help Saudia?

Do you realize Pakistan is under attack from Afghanistan and as per MDA, Saudi is bound to help Pakistan ?

You see it isn’t so simple & straightforward. Pakistan will & must help Saudi, but that help must remain within reason.
 
This is truly a very "interesting" perspective.

1. Saudi Arabia established a no-fly zone over another country's airspace. What kind of action is this? Of course, if we set aside current international rules and adopt the "might makes right" mentality of the law of the jungle, then such a move is feasible. However, the prerequisite is that you must consistently maintain that stance.

2. When an Iranian flight intrudes into a no-fly zone, the standard responses employed by other nations in similar situations include issuing radio warnings, scrambling fighter jets to intercept and drive the aircraft away, or even shooting it down directly...
Did we see Saudi Arabia take any direct action against this flight? No.
The Iranian flight landed safely and picked up Houthi personnel. Saudi Arabia remained silent once again, taking no direct action.
When the Iranian flight returned with the Houthi personnel, it once again violated the no-fly zone. Saudi Arabia remained silent, taking no direct action.
But this time, they sent their air force to bomb the airfield...

This is a coward's game!

The Saudi-backed Yemeni government forces couldn't defeat this guerrilla force, and even when Saudi Arabia intervened directly, it still couldn't win. Now, they have actually invoked the MDA agreement to rope in their allies—all to face an opponent that is nothing more than a guerrilla force wearing flip-flops...

* I do not support or oppose either side; I am simply analyzing issues of military strategy.
Smarty , this is not " coward's game" ...
Saudi Arabia showed courtesy and allowed houthis to attend the funeral of ayatullah.... when houthis got cocky and tried to take advantage of this courtesy then Saudi Arabia responded.
 
The Saudis were doing the right thing by staying ringside and simply watching the rounds unfold. The prudent thing for them to do was to accept the new reality, be patient, and mould things over time to their long-term benefit. The Mecca Accords gave the Saudis the assurance they needed, but MBS got too excited and wrote a cheque of grandeur that reality could not cash. Not only has he put his kingdom in unnecessary danger, but he has also embarrassed Pakistan and Turkey with his adventurism.


Very good post, Saudi gets no acknowledgement that they sat out the war

but the Makkah accords are medium to long term, turkey and Pakistan had to know it was formed in the middle of the war and hence it must be durable enough in the mutual understanding to weather the short term chaos to build long term security.

That has to be the assumption otherwise it was a frivolous idea to begin with embarrassing 3 nations,note turkey have distanced themselves from troop deployment openly



Many nations are looking to kill the idea early and it represents a juicy blow, that would be embarrassing but the three nations under a pact or not will increasingly come together regardless, and it's up to the region to decide how they react
 
This is truly a very "interesting" perspective.

1. Saudi Arabia established a no-fly zone over another country's airspace. What kind of action is this? Of course, if we set aside current international rules and adopt the "might makes right" mentality of the law of the jungle, then such a move is feasible. However, the prerequisite is that you must consistently maintain that stance.

2. When an Iranian flight intrudes into a no-fly zone, the standard responses employed by other nations in similar situations include issuing radio warnings, scrambling fighter jets to intercept and drive the aircraft away, or even shooting it down directly...
Did we see Saudi Arabia take any direct action against this flight? No.
The Iranian flight landed safely and picked up Houthi personnel. Saudi Arabia remained silent once again, taking no direct action.
When the Iranian flight returned with the Houthi personnel, it once again violated the no-fly zone. Saudi Arabia remained silent, taking no direct action.
But this time, they sent their air force to bomb the airfield...

This is a coward's game!

The Saudi-backed Yemeni government forces couldn't defeat this guerrilla force, and even when Saudi Arabia intervened directly, it still couldn't win. Now, they have actually invoked the MDA agreement to rope in their allies—all to face an opponent that is nothing more than a guerrilla force wearing flip-flops...

* I do not support or oppose either side; I am simply analyzing issues of military strategy.
That is one interpretation. No doubt, KSA has demonstrated a fair degree of military incompetence for quite some time now. The alternative interpretation is that patience was being exercised, some call it "restraint".

Like you, I am not a fan of such actions.
 
That is one interpretation. No doubt, KSA has demonstrated a fair degree of military incompetence for quite some time now. The alternative interpretation is that patience was being exercised, some call it "restraint".

Like you, I am not a fan of such actions.
Bro , you are multi dextourous ( can also mean multi panderer )
 
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