Yemen Civil War News and Discussion.. an evolving situation

You know that Shia Islam has its roots in Arabian heartland, right?
Medina has one of the oldest continuously existing Shia communities of all places in the Mid East.

No matter how much I detest that chap Arabian Knight aka Arabian Sword etc., at least he had the decency to acknowledge this fact.

Shia Islam is quintessentially Arab and Iranians adopted it much later, though there were pockets/significant minorities inside Persian heartland from the very early times.
None of the Shia Imams are Persians.
The same cannot be said about the majority sect.

Do you know who Hormuzan was and where did he settle? Abu Lulu Firoz? Or Salman Farsi? After the fall of empire it was not very odd of persians to be in Arab territories and vice versa.

Shiites

Muhammad ibn Ya'qub al-Kulayni ... was a persian​

Ibn Babawayh ... of Persian descent​

Shaykh Tusi ... again a Persian​


Sunnis

Bukhari ... a persian
Muslim ibn al_Hajjaj ... persian
Al-Nasai ... from Khrosan

Abu Dawud al-Sijistani ... a persian of Arab descent​

Al - Tirmidhi .. again from Khorasan

Ibn Majah ... also from Persia​


One can only wonder why it was only persians who felt the need to write traditions and none of the Arabs produced a single traditions book.

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One can only wonder why it was only persians who felt the need to write traditions and none of the Arabs produced a single traditions book.
Persia was urbanized and had an intellectual tradition dating back to pre Islamic times, it's only logical that a disproportional number of Islamic intellectuals of all walks of life were Persian.

It was the same in the Roman Empire - a lot of Roman intellectuals were Greeks.
 
It has everything to do with your beliefs.

The issue is not the Uncles of ALLAH’s Prophets. The issue is the “Ismat” of ALLAH’s Prophets.

Who told you that Abu Talib did not listen to the Prophet pbuh ?
The father of Cats ?

إِنَّمَا يُرِيدُ اللَّهُ لِيُذْهِبَ عَنكُمُ الرِّجْسَ أَهْلَ الْبَيْتِ وَيُطَهِّرَكُمْ تَطْهِيرًا

You believe Imam ul Anbiya was feeding & drinking off Mushrikeen ( Nauzu BILLAH ) for years. Yet a common Muslim like me & you who indulges in sin 24/7 doesn’t eat from a Mushrik restaurant in Ireland & England.

لَا حَوْلَ وَلَا قُوَّةَ إِلَّا بِٱللَّٰهِ

The very essence of Islam is Karbala. It is the Zibhin Azeem. Why remove it ? who’d like to remove it ?

The issue is about the family, who is family and who is not. So that we are clear I believe Umar, Osman, Ali, Hassan and Hussain all were target assassinated by persians.

This whole discussion started with @Falgrine mentioning that Yazeed attacked Makkah, and all I asked was a simple question, why did he not attack Hussain in Makkah and why he waited for Hussain to reach Karbala? It is the same Yazeed so what changed?

For Hussain to be in Karbala on 10th of Moharram he has to leave Makkah one day before Hajj. The whole premise of parallel religion is proving Karbala happened.

Do you believe Hussain was married to a persian princess?
 
Persia was urbanized and had an intellectual tradition dating back to pre Islamic times, it's only logical that a disproportional number of Islamic intellectuals of all walks of life were Persian.

It was the same in the Roman Empire - a lot of Roman intellectuals were Greeks.

After almost 250 years of Messenger's departure from this world? If it were the persians who could write books for Muslims (both shiite and sunnis) then what were the Muslims in between those 250 years doing then?
 
Tabab al-Qal'a area south of Marib has fallen to the Yemeni Armed forces - The Marib theater axis.



The Houthis lost also today several places in the Jawf theater

Army and Resistance forces were able to take control just moments ago of the strategic Al-Jawf Junction in Marib from the Houthis, with coalition airstrikes on the runways and Hanishat in Nehm northeast of Sana´a

 
The issue is about the family, who is family and who is not. So that we are clear I believe Umar, Osman, Ali, Hassan and Hussain all were target assassinated by persians.

This whole discussion started with @Falgrine mentioning that Yazeed attacked Makkah, and all I asked was a simple question, why did he not attack Hussain in Makkah and why he waited for Hussain to reach Karbala? It is the same Yazeed so what changed?

For Hussain to be in Karbala on 10th of Moharram he has to leave Makkah one day before Hajj. The whole premise of parallel religion is proving Karbala happened.

Do you believe Hussain was married to a persian princess?
Find another thread to disprove the tragedy of Karbala and satiate ur salafist tendencies.
 


Article 1

The “Parties” shall cooperate to ensure and safeguard one another’s independence, sovereignty, territorial integrity, and the inviolability of their internationally recognised borders. If the territorial integrity, sovereignty, or internationally recognised borders of any of the “Parties” are threatened or endangered, the “Parties” shall use all necessary means to eliminate such threat(s) or danger(s).

Article 2

An externally originating armed attack against any of the “Parties” shall be considered an attack against all the “Parties.” If one of the “Parties” is subjected to an armed attack or military aggression by another country or group of countries, the “Parties” shall immediately assist the attacked “Party,” making full use of all means of mutual assistance that they can provide to one another. For this purpose, to enable the exercise of the right of self-defence recognised by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, the “Parties” shall determine the scope and nature of the support to be provided following an objective assessment of the assistance required, and shall cooperate within the limits of their available resources, including military means and capabilities.

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In wartime and peacetime, the “Parties” shall encourage reciprocal personnel exchanges among defence institutions, joint training programmes and exercises, and deployments and activities aimed at increasing the interoperability of the “Parties’” armed forces, in order to develop their defence capabilities.

Article 7

To strengthen their defence capabilities, the “Parties” shall, on the basis of mutual agreement, support technology sharing among defence-industry institutions, joint technology development, joint production, and cooperation among defence-industry organisations in the following areas:
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1. The “Core Parties” shall establish a “Strategic Political and Defence Committee”, comprising the Foreign Ministers, Defence Ministers, and Chiefs of General Staff of the “Parties” to provide strategic direction for joint defence, develop defence and security cooperation among the “Parties” and address obstacles that may arise during the implementation of this Agreement. The Committee shall meet twice a year, with hosting rotating among the “Parties”. The leaders of the “Parties” may meet once a year if deemed necessary.

2. The “Strategic Political and Defence Committee” may establish subcommittees if it considers this necessary.

3. Agreements or protocols shall, where necessary, be negotiated among the “Parties” for the implementation of the areas of cooperation envisaged in this Agreement.

4. The “Strategic Political and Defence Committee” shall be authorised, by consensus of the “Core Parties”, to determine and approve the procedures and principles governing the accession of other “Parties” to this Agreement.

5. A Secretariat headquartered in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia shall be established to serve the “Strategic Political and Defence Committee”. The Secretariat shall conclude a headquarters agreement with the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. The procedures and principles governing the Secretariat’s functioning, organisational structure, and establishment shall subsequently be determined by consensus of the “Core Parties”.

6. The Secretariat shall be headed by a Secretary-General appointed for a three-year term on a rotational basis among the “Core Parties”. The first Secretary-General shall be a citizen of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan.

7. The provisions of this Article shall not prejudice the work of existing military cooperation committees among the “Parties”.

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5. The responsibilities of the “Parties” concerning the protection of classified information and documents and the prevention of their disclosure shall continue after termination of this Agreement or withdrawal from it.

Article 2 applies to Saudi/Houthi and it is not lost on me that the text was published on the same day that Munir has gone to Iran.
 
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Greetings to the Republic of Yemen;

 
The issue is about the family, who is family and who is not. So that we are clear I believe Umar, Osman, Ali, Hassan and Hussain all were target assassinated by persians.

This whole discussion started with @Falgrine mentioning that Yazeed attacked Makkah, and all I asked was a simple question, why did he not attack Hussain in Makkah and why he waited for Hussain to reach Karbala? It is the same Yazeed so what changed?

For Hussain to be in Karbala on 10th of Moharram he has to leave Makkah one day before Hajj. The whole premise of parallel religion is proving Karbala happened.

Do you believe Hussain was married to a persian princess?

That’s a fallacy, the differences & later on the feud among sahaba did not require any intervention or instigation by the Persians.

The reason Yazeed did not attack Imam Hussain as in Makkah is because Imam Hussain chose not make the Kaaba a shield for Himself & moved out of Makkah deliberately to preserve the sanctity of Makkah.

Imam Hussain had multiple wives & among them was lady Shaharbano was one among them.
 
Do you know who Hormuzan was and where did he settle? Abu Lulu Firoz? Or Salman Farsi? After the fall of empire it was not very odd of persians to be in Arab territories and vice versa.

Shiites

Muhammad ibn Ya'qub al-Kulayni ... was a persian​

Ibn Babawayh ... of Persian descent​

Shaykh Tusi ... again a Persian​


Sunnis

Bukhari ... a persian
Muslim ibn al_Hajjaj ... persian
Al-Nasai ... from Khrosan

Abu Dawud al-Sijistani ... a persian of Arab descent​

Al - Tirmidhi .. again from Khorasan

Ibn Majah ... also from Persia​


One can only wonder why it was only persians who felt the need to write traditions and none of the Arabs produced a single traditions book.

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I'm sure you've noticed by now that some Persians in this thread—including individuals whose ties to Iran are questionable—seem far more interested in pushing a pro-Iranian narrative than engaging honestly with evidence. The moment their claims are challenged, they shift the goalposts, contradict themselves, and manufacture convenient “facts” to prop up an argument that cannot withstand scrutiny. Baseless talking points are repeated ad nauseam, as though sheer repetition could somehow turn fiction into fact.

Meanwhile, the situation on the ground is deteriorating rapidly for their side. Their favorite political figure is edging closer to irrelevance, while back home, mass protests are dismissed as if they were nothing more than an inconvenient footnote. The hypocrisy is staggering, the denial is transparent, and the desperation to spin an increasingly unfavorable reality is becoming impossible to conceal.

If their arguments were as solid as they pretend, they wouldn't need to dodge questions, rewrite their own positions, and substitute propaganda for evidence.
 
thats all allowed of couse.. you will be responded with whataboutism. blaming Iran and Asad for all the ills.
the Truth is that GCC monarchs are all Zionist allies and very much part of the Zionist project.
It wasn’t always like that. At one point the House of Saud, along with Gaddafi and Bhutto and others dreamt of an actual ‘Muslim alliance’ with teeth.
 
It wasn’t always like that. At one point the House of Saud, along with Gaddafi and Bhutto and others dreamt of an actual ‘Muslim alliance’ with teeth.
Gaddafi = Same guy who wanted to re-write the Holy Quran? wanted "an actual Muslim alliance"? Oh ok.......
 
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