Yemen Civil War News and Discussion.. an evolving situation

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Yemeni ballistic missile travels 1800km+ and hits Tel Aviv after evading multiple Israeli interceptors, causing 30 injuries among Zionist settlers

 

[Persian Gulf]

More useless celebration. 0 Israelis killed and nothing of any worth was destroyed. Those ballistic missies have barely any firepower as seen even from the video.

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pretty bad timing after you were claiming Yemenis have nothing that can even reach Israel yesterday

 

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pretty bad timing after you were claiming Yemenis have nothing that can even reach Israel yesterday

More lying? I never wrote that. I talked specifically about drones not ballistic missiles. Everyone can se that.

Still zero casualties and in return many more Yemenis will die. Again, great victory for those who consider Muslim blood cheap and prefer propaganda rather than real steps that will stop Israel from committing their genocide.

As for Houthis obviously they were forced to reply after the Israelis bombed them heavily.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Still zero casualties

Israel admitted to 30 casualties. You are lying. Or you don't know what casualties means. Which is it?

 

[_Arabia_]

Israel admitted to 30 casualties. You are lying. Or you don't know what casualties means. Which is it?

I meant to write deaths which was obvious with my comparisons to the Israeli attacks on Yemen that killed several people.

 

[EyelessInGaza]

I meant to write deaths which was obvious with my comparisons to the Israeli attacks on Yemen that killed several people.

Deaths are hardly the filter here, or a comparable stat when the difference in overall military capability, financing and resources between the two is so extravagantly high.

The fact that a missile slipped through the much vaunted Israeli defences is the key here.

 

[Persian Gulf]

I meant to write deaths which was obvious with my comparisons to the Israeli attacks on Yemen that killed several people.

why is deaths your only metric?

ignoring the fact you still refuse to accept you were wrong to claim Yemen had not killed any Israelis despite Yemen and Israel both accepting that is what happened, you also refuse to see other metrics

isn't the millions of Israelis sent to bomb shelters in the middle of the night a factor? seeing their ABM shields penetrated by a single missile that lands in the heart of Tel Aviv and causes 30 casualties after the Zionists carried out a huge attack on Yemeni infrastructure designed to destroy their will to resist (unsuccessfully), losing their trust in their military and realising that their only path to end this is a ceasefire in Gaza.

your view is too narrow and driven by your ideological propaganda that refuses to let you see the full picture and forces you to instead insist on your ludicrous and easily debunked assertions

 

[_Arabia_]

why is deaths your only metric?

ignoring the fact you still refuse to accept you were wrong to claim Yemen had not killed any Israelis despite Yemen and Israel both accepting that is what happened, you also refuse to see other metrics

isn't the millions of Israelis sent to bomb shelters in the middle of the night a factor? seeing their ABM shields penetrated by a single missile that lands in the heart of Tel Aviv and causes 30 casualties after the Zionists carried out a huge attack on Yemeni infrastructure designed to destroy their will to resist (unsuccessfully), losing their trust in their military and realising that their only path to end this is a ceasefire in Gaza.

your view is too narrow and driven by your ideological propaganda that refuses to let you see the full picture and forces you to instead insist on your ludicrous and easily debunked assertions

Allow me to disagree for the many reasons that I already stated.

Deaths of Israelis is the only metric that I care about as this is the only metric that will make them end their genocide in Gaza and elsewhere.

1 Israeli death in almost 450 days is pathetic and not going to change anything on the ground. You and I both know this but you are incapable of admitting it openly as Houthis are your pawns.

In return Northern Yemen and Houthis will be bombed even more heavily.

It is a suicidal tactic and “celebrating” a token missile (with barely any explosive power as seen) reaching Israel, after 100’s of failed attempts is not something very logical.

If Houthis forced Israel to stop their genocide in Gaza, actually killed Israelis in large numbers, destroyed infrastructure on a wide scale and in return could defend themselves, I would be saying, good job, even though I, like most sane people, look at their presence in Northern Yemen as a nuisance for Yemenis, Yemen and the unity of Yemen. I already explained that in detail 100 times already.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Allow me to disagree for the many reasons that I already stated.

Deaths of Israelis is the only metric that I care about as this is the only metric that will make them end their genocide in Gaza and elsewhere.

This is not true. Hamas killed > 1000 Israelis on one day (majority military combatants) and did that help?

1 Israeli death in almost 450 days is pathetic and not going to change anything on the ground. You and I both know this but you are incapable of admitting it openly as Houthis are your pawns.

They are nobody's "pawns". Iran supplies them with weapons but they do not answer to us or take instructions from us. They follow their own agenda.

In return Northern Yemen and Houthis will be bombed even more heavily.

That's their decision to make. They have been clear that they are willing to pay the price to resist the Israeli genocide in Gaza and to stand with Palestinians. Many others are not willing to pay that price (including Iran for now). It's commendable.

It is a suicidal tactic and “celebrating” a token missile (with barely any explosive power as seen) reaching Israel, after 100’s of failed attempts is not something very logical.

If Houthis forced Israel to stop their genocide in Gaza, actually killed Israelis in large numbers, destroyed infrastructure on a wide scale and in return could defend themselves, I would be saying, good job, even though I, like most sane people, look at their presence in Northern Yemen as a nuisance for Yemenis, Yemen and the unity of Yemen. I already explained that in detail 100 times already.

The missile on Thursday completed destroyed a rather large building, this one landed in a park and still injured 14-30 Israelis.

The reality is that no one can force Israel to stop their genocide, short of US threatening sanctions or Iran threatening full war. Hezbollah tried and sacrificed thousands of their best men and leaders but were not successful.

Yemenis are willing to fight and resist against a far more powerful enemy. Just like the Palestinians in Gaza. The end results are not nice, but they have agency to take their own decisions and these decisions are commendable.

 

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likely Yemeni drone strike on Negev

 

[_Arabia_]

This is not true. Hamas killed > 1000 Israelis on one day (majority military combatants) and did that help?


They are nobody's "pawns". Iran supplies them with weapons but they do not answer to us or take instructions from us. They follow their own agenda.


That's their decision to make. They have been clear that they are willing to pay the price to resist the Israeli genocide in Gaza and to stand with Palestinians. Many others are not willing to pay that price (including Iran for now). It's commendable.


The missile on Thursday completed destroyed a rather large building, this one landed in a park and still injured 14-30 Israelis.

The reality is that no one can force Israel to stop their genocide, short of US threatening sanctions or Iran threatening full war. Hezbollah tried and sacrificed thousands of their best men and leaders but were not successful.

Yemenis are willing to fight and resist against a far more powerful enemy. Just like the Palestinians in Gaza. The end results are not nice, but they have agency to take their own decisions and these decisions are commendable.

How is it not true? In every war/conflict the main thing that matters the most in terms of deterrence and changing the sway of a battlefield/war are casualty figures (of which deaths and severe disability/severe wounds are the main ones obviously compared to light casualties that are recoverable), widespread infrastructural damage, widespread damage on the opponents military arsenal/infrastructure, fatigue and obviously money/economics. In the case of Israel it would also be desalination plants, energy plants and even its known nuclear sights. Like for instance Dimona.

Houthis have failed at all of that.

The example 7th of October, which started the entire war to begin with, can also openly be discussed if it was worth it in hindsight. If you ask me, it was not. They (Hamas) should have limited themselves to killing just soldiers and taken more hostages. In any case it was/is their prerogative as they were/are the ones under occupation and had a legitimate reason for armed resistance. Houthis on the other hand are in no such position that is comparable.

I disagree. I don't think that they have much independence in terms of foreign policy at least.

I also believe that the Iranian regime uses them to hit Israel. Iran has not yet replied to Israel killing several Iranians and destroying a lot of military hardware. The first 2 attacks were also as pathetic as they did not kill 1 single Israeli and Iran even had to INFORM the US/Israel prior to launching the attacks.

Iran, despite possessing much more firepower than Houthis and being closer to Israel, have not done much when in theory nothing stops Iran from attacking Israel on a weekly or monthly basis. The thing here though is that the Iranian leadership are not as stupid as the Houthis and have more to loose so they don't do that. As they know that they would be in much, much bigger trouble than currently and that it is simply not worth it from a geopolitical view. The gains are simply too small.

I don't think it is commendable. It is irresponsible and suicidal. They are going to indirectly kill 100's of their own and destroy their own infrastructure and risk the lives of 1000's of innocent people.

Sure, but in comparison to Israeli bombardments (which I focused on) this is nothing. Which you also know.

Hezbollah did not go all-in at all. There initial attacks were very light. It was only until Israel themselves got on an offensive and practically eliminated the entire Hezbollah leadership and later invaded/occupied parts of Southern Lebanon that they finally started being more aggressive and succeeded in killing more Israelis than earlier.

Their main victory was the displacement of Israelis from Northern Israel, ironically many of those being Israeli Arabs (Palestinians) but they have already returned now.

I agree with your last part of your post but doing something (that in a vacuum) is heroic and commendable, is not always a good thing when you risk being bombed back to the Stone Age (you have no means to defend yourself really), many more of your people (probably mostly if not all innocent) are going to die etc.

As for stopping Israel, all it would take (in theory) would be for KSA, Egypt, Turkey, Iran, Jordan, Iraq and everyone else nearby to jointly threaten Israel with real military action (not just talk or using militias who stand no chance) but this has never happened and likely won't happen. That and massive pressure on the US.

As for what we have been witnessing for the past many decades it is just a "comedy show" in regards to defeating Israel because whether we like it or not, Israel is only getting stronger and getting more free reign to kill people in the region without any consequences.

BTW, you and I also both know, that Iran propping up Hezbollah and much later Houthis is not due to some grand plan of defeating Israel but more to do with using external actors to help defend Iran directly or indirectly and to keep conflicts away from its own borders.

Because I hope that you or anyone else is not so naive to believe that Hezbollah ever had the chance to actually defeat Israel let alone free Palestine etc. as the rhetoric for the past 45 years has been?

That is why I see all this as geopolitics and nothing else. Syria is a good example of this. The Islamic Republic of Iran supported a secular (non-Muslim too - Nusayris are recognized as Ghulat by Shias and always been that - read up on it, freely available) Arab Ba'athi nationalist regime. Why? Because of geopolitics (Syria, due to their Ba'athi rivalry with Iraq, stod with Iran during the Iraq-Iran war).

But we both know that Muslim masses (or rather people of this region) are easily fooled/swayed by propaganda and slogans so nothing surprises me in this regard. Just sad to see that Yemen and Yemenis will continue to suffer.

 

[EugeneP]

Yeah yeah yeah....anyone actually acting against zionists is bad and condemned but anyone working for zionist's interests is good.

The brave people of Yemen don't need your pity.

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One need not be a Zionist supporter to observe "We Yemenis can live without electricity and without a port" may not be a popular preference of Yemenis. When starvation and disease set in Yemen, Ahmed Hassan will probably be living comfortably someplace else.

 

[SolarWarden]

One need not be a Zionist supporter to observe "We Yemenis can live without electricity and without a port" may not be a popular preference of Yemenis. When starvation and disease set in Yemen, Ahmed Hassan will probably be living comfortably someplace else.

Imagine the Israeli response if a couple of their citizens died in the attack? Majority in here would be shocked and appalled that Israel would respond in such manner.

 

[UKBengali]

Imagine the Israeli response if a couple of their citizens died in the attack? Majority in here would be shocked and appalled that Israel would respond in such manner.

Houthis have shown they do not care.

They fought the Gulfies for many years and KSA was able to bomb from next door.

Zionist entity cannot go a "Gaza" on the Houthis and they know it - distances are too great.

It will be interesting to see if the Houthis mount attacks with multiple missiles at once after the inevitable Zionist retaliation.