Yemen Civil War News and Discussion.. an evolving situation

[OakTree23]

Are you surprised by those cults? They are always against Muslims and are the cause of Muslim and Arab instability. We saw it with the Nusayris in Syria as well in the past 50 years. Now some Druze are trying to do similar with the help of Zionists.

And we all know who is the chief cultist in the region who supports all those cults being a minority cult themselves in the region.

Okay they are cults, so what’s your Wahhabi Sunni plans to help your brothers and sisters getting raped and murdered? Everywhere I look it’s the non Sunnis fighting back while
The Sunnis are helping the oppressors. So what’s your plans to help (Sunni) Muslims?

 

[_Arabia_]

But it is very interesting. Sunni Arabs are in 99.99% the case hostile towards Zionists and Israel. On the other hand Iran was the greatest ally of Israel/Zionists in the region until 1979. It probably has the most pro-Zionist population in the region as well. All those millions of anti-Arab/anti-Muslim Iranians are all cheering Israel on for everyone to see. The less said about Shia-majority Azerbaijan the better as well.

Sunnis (Arabs and Turks exclusively to make it more precise) having waged several wars against Jews/Zionists in the past 1400 years and conquering/ruling Jews during the vast majority of this time period. The ones that are doing most of the fighting (naturally) are Sunni Palestinians as well.

Now some unelected Sunni regimes (UAE, Bahrain, Sudan, Morocco) signing the Abraham/Ibrahim accords (a blunder and a waste of time as I have stated on numerous occasions) have nothing to do with Sunni Islam or Sunnis as a whole.

HIstory and reality on the ground confirms this.

So sect here is irrelevant. You cannot make such ridiculous statements (Sunnis doing nothing against Zionists/Israel) when throughout 99.99% of all recorded history, it has only been Sunnis doing just that.

But anyway, I insist, this has nothing to do with sects.

Zaydis (very similar to Sunni Muslims theologically, in fact other Shias considered them historically as a Sunni sect) in Yemen (the small minority in KSA too) and Sunnis of Yemen lived in peace for 1400 years prior to the Houthi cult being established in 1992 and later rebelling several times against the Yemeni state.

It is about the Houthi cult/tribe wanting to rule the Zaydi majority areas of Yemen (northwestern Yemen) and using their patron in Tehran to do it. This suits the patron well as the Houthis can help create trouble for KSA, as they have done in the past 20 + years (while ironically KSA has always supported the Zaydis the most of all regional states - KSA fought on the side of the Zaydi Imams/Kings against Nasser's Egypt). While having another puppet/slave to use against regional foes or use as a bargain chip when dealing with the US/West.

Recent attacks are just part of this game (US pressure on Iran to negotiate a new nuclear deal) and Yemen and Yemenis are the victims even though they have nothing to do with this.

All of this has nothing to do with religion but unwanted and harmful terrorist meddling in unstable regions of the Arab world where a certain minority sect is present.

We don't see it or have seen it in Libya or Sudan despite the instability in those countries and ongoing horrible civil war in Sudan due to the absence of minority Muslim sects.

Not sure how more clear this needs to be written.

Now lastly, Houthis attacking Israel (even though those attacks are worthless as everyone can see and have changed nothing on the ground or changed the plight of Palestinians), is a positive for what it is worth but 1) it is done for local/regional consumption to gain popularity among the ignorant masses who don't know the history of Houthis or what they have done of crimes in Yemen (works very well as we can all see), 2) it has changed nothing on the ground and will (as seen) just create more misery for an already struggling Yemen. If the Houthis were honest and wholeheartedly wanted to actually try to change status quo on the ground, they would have done much more. Supposedly they have all those super weapons, missiles and what not (enough to threaten 5000 times larger KSA) but apparently not against Israel. Now, people will say, but what have the Sunni-majority states done? Well, nothing as well (militarily) because 1) they are not self-described militias who claim to want to destroy Israel, 2) they are actual states and not terrorist militias that have nothing to lose, 3) they don't make bombastic/propaganda speeches on this front 24/7. It reminds me of the Iranian regime. 46 years of barking 24/7 against Israel and not even 1 single war let alone weakening of Israel. In fact through their actions, Israel/Zionists have only gotten stronger. It is all a joke when you really think about it.

 

[OakTree23]

But it is very interesting. Sunni Arabs are in 99.99% the case hostile towards Zionists and Israel. On the other hand Iran was the greatest ally of Israel/Zionists in the region until 1979. It probably has the most pro-Zionist population in the region as well. All those millions of anti-Arab/anti-Muslim Iranians are all cheering Israel on for everyone to see. The less said about Shia-majority Azerbaijan the better as well.

Sunnis (Arabs and Turks exclusively to make it more precise) having waged several wars against Jews/Zionists in the past 1400 years and conquering/ruling Jews during the vast majority of this time period. The ones that are doing most of the fighting (naturally) are Sunni Palestinians as well.

Now some unelected Sunni regimes (UAE, Bahrain, Sudan, Morocco) signing the Abraham/Ibrahim accords (a blunder and a waste of time as I have stated on numerous occasions) have nothing to do with Sunni Islam or Sunnis as a whole.

HIstory and reality on the ground confirms this.

So sect here is irrelevant. You cannot make such ridiculous statements (Sunnis doing nothing against Zionists/Israel) when throughout 99.99% of all recorded history, it has only been Sunnis doing just that.

But anyway, I insist, this has nothing to do with sects.

Zaydis (very similar to Sunni Muslims theologically, in fact other Shias considered them historically as a Sunni sect) in Yemen (the small minority in KSA too) and Sunnis of Yemen lived in peace for 1400 years prior to the Houthi cult being established in 1992 and later rebelling several times against the Yemeni state.

It is about the Houthi cult/tribe wanting to rule the Zaydi majority areas of Yemen (northwestern Yemen) and using their patron in Tehran to do it. This suits the patron well as the Houthis can help create trouble for KSA, as they have done in the past 20 + years (while ironically KSA has always supported the Zaydis the most of all regional states - KSA fought on the side of the Zaydi Imams/Kings against Nasser's Egypt). While having another puppet/slave to use against regional foes or use as a bargain chip when dealing with the US/West.

Recent attacks are just part of this game (US pressure on Iran to negotiate a new nuclear deal) and Yemen and Yemenis are the victims even though they have nothing to do with this.

All of this has nothing to do with religion but unwanted and harmful terrorist meddling in unstable regions of the Arab world where a certain minority sect is present.

We don't see it or have seen it in Libya or Sudan despite the instability in those countries and ongoing horrible civil war in Sudan due to the absence of minority Muslim sects.

Not sure how more clear this needs to be written.

Now lastly, Houthis attacking Israel (even though those attacks are worthless as everyone can see and have changed nothing on the ground or changed the plight of Palestinians), is a positive for what it is worth but 1) it is done for local/regional consumption to gain popularity among the ignorant masses who don't know the history of Houthis or what they have done of crimes in Yemen (works very well as we can all see), 2) it has changed nothing on the ground and will (as seen) just create more misery for an already struggling Yemen. If the Houthis were honest and wholeheartedly wanted to actually try to change status quo on the ground, they would have done much more. Supposedly they have all those super weapons, missiles and what not (enough to threaten 5000 times larger KSA) but apparently not against Israel. Now, people will say, but what have the Sunni-majority states done? Well, nothing as well (militarily) because 1) they are not self-described militias who claim to want to destroy Israel, 2) they are actual states and not terrorist militias that have nothing to lose, 3) they don't make bombastic/propaganda speeches on this front 24/7.

Okay even I agree everything you’re saying 100% is accurate (it’s not), what’s the Sunni Arabs and the wider Sunnis plans now?

 

[The SC]

Okay they are cults, so what’s your Wahhabi Sunni plans to help your brothers and sisters getting raped and murdered? Everywhere I look it’s the non Sunnis fighting back while
The Sunnis are helping the oppressors. So what’s your plans to help (Sunni) Muslims?

Hamas is Sunni..

 

[OakTree23]

Hamas is Sunni..

Great so one out of 50 nations. Meanwhile 3 Shia powers were fighting out 4ish. In a way, I’m glad the Israelis are wiping the floor with the non Gulf Arabs. You deserve all the destructions in the world!

 

[_Arabia_]

Okay even I agree everything you’re saying 100% is accurate (it’s not), what’s the Sunni Arabs and the wider Sunnis plans now?

What do you disagree with? I am open for a discussion on this front.

Why are you asking me? Am I the representative of 550 million Arabs and 2 billion Muslims of which 90-95% are Sunni Muslims?

The plain is to prevent the ethnic cleansing of Gazans and their forceful deportation to Egypt, Jordan, KSA, Lebanon or elsewhere. Something that the Arab leaders have all agreed with and done their part on.

Continue the political pressure on Israel and the insistence on the implementation of the Arab Peace Initiative which Israel just recently rejected and now it became clear for everyone that it is the Zionists that do not want peace and not the "evil Arabs" as the Zionist propaganda has been about for the past 75 years continuously. Or rather 100 years.

There is no military solution today due to Israel being an extension of your host country (or country of birth, I am not sure), USA. Plus the wider NATO/West which created, helps keep afloat and support 100% 24/7 whatever Israel/Zionists do of crimes.

Arabs and Muslims (in particular given that Arabs are divided into 20 + states and Muslims overall into 55 + states) cannot do anything militarily currently to decisively defeat Israel.

But once again, why try to make Shias (when this is not the case historically at all or even today) into something they are not here? Which Shias aside from Hezbollah (who are only fighting against Israel because they happen to border it and were attacked by it) have fought against Israel directly in the past 1400 years? It is a genuine question. I don't think there have been any others. So for me it is absurd to make this about sects.

I have a question to you. Why can the Houthi 33 year old cult not make peace with all Yemeni parties and engage in a political process and work towards Yemeni unification? This way go back to status quo pre-1992 when Zaydis and Sunnis of Yemen lived peacefully as throughout the previous 1350 years largely?

Houthis are basically the BLA and TTP of Pakistan, just in Yemen. If the TTP and BLA make propaganda speeches against Israel and fired some firecrackers at Israel (to date after 33 years they are yet to kill a single Israeli), would you be supporting them?

Most Pakistanis are against those groups (even though they claim to be Muslim as well) for obvious reasons but seemingly the same people who are against such groups, want the Arab world (Arabs as a whole) to tolerate similar groups in our lands from Yemen to Lebanon to Iraq? Why?

Personally I am against all militant groups/terrorists/proxies/militants who operate outside of the state regardless of sect. I don't care which sect they have.

Great so one out of 50 nations. Meanwhile 3 Shia powers were fighting out 4ish. In a way, I’m glad the Israelis are wiping the floor with the non Gulf Arabs. You deserve all the destructions in the world!

What has happened to you?

 

[OakTree23]

What has happened to you?

I’ve developed severe apathy towards Egyptians and Levantine Arabs. I have absolutely no issues with the Gulf as they have provided a lot of financial relief to the Ummah.

 

[The SC]

Okay even I agree everything you’re saying 100% is accurate (it’s not), what’s the Sunni Arabs and the wider Sunnis plans now?

The wider Sunnis' plan is well known in case you missed it.. it is nothing less than the Establishment of a Palestinian state in a two state solution advanced by the Sunni Arabs .. it is a strategic plan and the tactical plans are there for everyone to see ..the rebuilding of Gaza and saving the Palestinians from deportation.. is just one of them..

 

[Shags101]

There is no such thing as "Wahhabi" in the first place. The plan is to remove Majoosi (using your langauge) Wilayat al-Faqih cultists/terrorists//militias/proxies from the Arab world who have done nothing but bloodshed, division, terrorism, instability and division. Very few remain luckily with Syria liberated.

Let me be very blunt. Shias have never liberated anything from non-Muslims or conquered any non-Muslim territory nor have they ever liberated/conquered Al-Quds either. Will never happen as we have seen. The whole show between the Zionists and the regional chief cultist is a show that has nothing to do with Islam but regional ambitions.

Sunnis (Palestinians) are the ones fighting against the Zionists/Jews as throughout all of recorded history. Similarly with actual wars waged against Israel (Arab Sunnis again).

Hezbollah have done nothing. They have been heavily pounded and humiliated by Israel and only acted when Israel attacked them. They have changed nothing on the ground as usual either. They were much, much better at killing 10.000's of Muslims in Syria. That and engaging in drug and captagon smuggling and trade.





A few useless Houthi firecrackers aimed at the Zionists (with 0 casualties to date after 18 months - truly pathetic) for domestic and regional consumption is not going to whitewash their countless crimes against Yemen and Yemenis in the past 30 + years and current illegal, unwanted and incompetent occupation of Northwestern Yemen.

Not long ago the Zaydis (like seemingly all minorities of the region have been or are historically) were pro-Zionists.

The reality:

Houthis have killed zero Israelis/Zionists/Jews in the cults entire 33 year old history.

On the other hand they have killed 100.000's of Yemenis directly or indirectly. Zaydis included.

Another crucial thing, most important here in case people will cry about sectarianism (for me stating the truth).

The Iranian Wilayat al-Faqih cult regime (46 years old) has nothing to do with Twelver Islam nor do they have a patent on it.

Similarly 33 year old Houthi cult has nothing to do with Zaydis nor do they have a patent on Zaydism.

Similarly those 2 and other allied proxies/terrorists have no patent on being against Zionists. This is something that 99.99% of all 550 million Arabs and 99% of all almost 2 billion Muslims subscribe to.

Now when those facts above become very clear for even the foolish people around, rest is very easy as well.

Another simple question. Why is it that everywhere where this Wilayat al-Faqih regime shows its ugly face, terrorism, proxies, instability, weakening of the central state (as seen in Lebanon and Yemen, similar project was tried in Iraq but it failed)?

You think that Arabs of the region will continue to accept this nonsense? Yemen and Yemenis have lost 12 + years on what exactly? Being ruled by a bunch of backward khat-addicted clowns that serve a foreign anti-Arab and anti-Muslim agenda?

How about you allow this Wilayat al-Faqih regime to create 100's of proxy groups in Pakistan that try to undermine the state using fake slogans?

This "axis of resistance" has long ago proven to be a joke as well. You yourself admitted it not long ago. Which is brave from a Shia as seemingly most of you lot cannot distinguish 1400 years of Shia Islam history from a 46 year old regime that rules a country where the majority are not even practising Muslims in the first place and the country with the lowest mosque attendance of all Muslim countries. It is all a charade where cheap slogans, sect (religion) is used to bolster Iranian regional ambitions. Every sane person can see this from miles away.

I have respect and want nothing but the best for all non-hostile minorities in the Arab world (including religious ones) but those blindly following and supporting the Wilayat al-Faqih regional project in the past 46 years which has given nothing but misery, bloodshed, backwardness and instability, I have zero respect for and I consider them no different than Zionists. Their goal is the same. Instability and destruction of the Arab world.

Well they said it was Hezbollah I don’t see what use Hezbollah would have to kidnap and kill low level soldiers it could have been anyone. Why the hate on Houthi attempting to defend Palestinians heck of a lot more than any Arab countries and here’s the thing they aren’t getting anything for it so bravo for them. We talk about useless inaccurate grads will only cause destruction to civilians unless they know there are hundreds of Hezbollah troops staging on the other side those are useless firecrackers

 

[Shags101]

The wider Sunnis' plan is well known in case you missed it.. it is nothing less than the Establishment of a Palestinian state in a two state solution advanced by the Sunni Arabs .. it is a strategic plan and the tactical plans are there for everyone to see ..the rebuilding of Gaza and saving the Palestinians from deportation.. is just one of them..

Again I’m not big on Sunni or Shia comparisons because if they aren’t in Quran just made after but I will say this I don’t see anything tactical or strategic from said countries they are just twiddling their thumbs in embarrassment. Here’s a truth if Egypt was serious would breach said walls start sending in humanitarian good’s without Israel approval no troops no weapons just men showing visible humanitarian goods if Israel threatens to bomb them Egypt will say that’s their redline and let’s go at it. I’m tired of people saying Arabs would conquer Israel with this coalition of forces that they would back each other up in a heartbeat I want to see that. People keep trash talking Iran Houthi Iraq militias and Hezbollah but they actually put attempted to intervene while other Arab and Muslim nations did almost nothing but sign billion dollar deals with Israel invite them to show off their weapons that they used to kill 10s of thousands of civilians. I don’t have to agree Iran or said proxies and yeah they have done harm to their own people but compared to the overindulgent Arabs it’s child’s play

 

[The SC]

Well they said it was Hezbollah I don’t see what use Hezbollah would have to kidnap and kill low level soldiers it could have been anyone. Why the hate on Houthi attempting to defend Palestinians heck of a lot more than any Arab countries and here’s the thing they aren’t getting anything for it so bravo for them. We talk about useless inaccurate grads will only cause destruction to civilians unless they know there are hundreds of Hezbollah troops staging on the other side those are useless firecrackers

The real problem is with weapons and drugs' smuggling operations going on in the border between Syria and Lebanon for a long time.. it involves real die hard organized crime gangs..that are in general under Hezbollah control..although the latter does not engage in those criminal operations.. Syrian authorities know this.. that is why they blame Hezbollah..it has to control its gangs and stop the trafficking..

 

[The SC]

Again I’m not big on Sunni or Shia comparisons because if they aren’t in Quran just made after but I will say this I don’t see anything tactical or strategic from said countries they are just twiddling their thumbs in embarrassment. Here’s a truth if Egypt was serious would breach said walls start sending in humanitarian good’s without Israel approval no troops no weapons just men showing visible humanitarian goods if Israel threatens to bomb them Egypt will say that’s their redline and let’s go at it. I’m tired of people saying Arabs would conquer Israel with this coalition of forces that they would back each other up in a heartbeat I want to see that. People keep trash talking Iran Houthi Iraq militias and Hezbollah but they actually put attempted to intervene while other Arab and Muslim nations did almost nothing but sign billion dollar deals with Israel invite them to show off their weapons that they used to kill 10s of thousands of civilians. I don’t have to agree Iran or said proxies and yeah they have done harm to their own people but compared to the overindulgent Arabs it’s child’s play

Well in brief you want to see the Arabs at war with Israel..hence with the US..

That is not going to happen.. save your breath....It simply means WW3..

 

[Shags101]

Well in brief you want to see the Arabs at war with Israel..hence with the US..

That is not going to happen.. save your breath....It simply means WW3..

So if Israel attacks another Arab country the whole we have each others back and will defend our Arab brothers go out the window for fear of American reprisals. Houthis attacks on Israel may not be totally effective but they aren’t backing down for fear of America kind of nuts right the supposed weakest and poorest of Arabs are fighting to defend Palestinians if these guys were next to Israel instead of Jordan or Egypt we would see guys who would give their lives for their Palestinian brothers

 

[The SC]

So if Israel attacks another Arab country the whole we have each others back and will defend our Arab brothers go out the window for fear of American reprisals. Houthis attacks on Israel may not be totally effective but they aren’t backing down for fear of America kind of nuts right the supposed weakest and poorest of Arabs are fighting to defend Palestinians if these guys were next to Israel instead of Jordan or Egypt we would see guys who would give their lives for their Palestinian brothers

Well they are a militia with absolutely nothing to lose..

You are comparing too much..

 

[F-22Raptor]