Z-10 ME/P deliveries Updates: Pakistan Army Aviation.

[ghazi52]

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[Pak-Warrior]

It will be interesting to know which of the weapons PA bought along with it. This pic shows quite heavy / longer range arsenals like CM-502xx. and air to air missiles.




Primarily, these gunships are to be used in combined arms in fullscale war ops but I think they can have a role in limited conflict like what happened few months ago for hunting drones (with its guns and all air to air configuration). e.g. that Israeli Harop drones which india used in last conflict.
What do you think for this secondary role @Lion

 

[White Privilege]

Pakistan is having Z10ME or Z10ME 2?

If Indian armour isn't rolling,the need for gunships does not top the list.

 

[Lion]

It will be interesting to know which of the weapons PA bought along with it. This pic shows quite heavy / longer range arsenals like CM-502xx. and air to air missiles.

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Primarily, these gunships are to be used in combined arms in fullscale war ops but I think they can have a role in limited conflict like what happened few months ago for hunting drones (with its guns and all air to air configuration). e.g. that Israeli Harop drones which india used in last conflict.
What do you think for this secondary role @Lion

It’s plausible only if there isn’t an active threat to the helicopter from across the border (both from SAMs and A2A missiles from fighters). We had C130s getting locked by SAMs and radars staying off for fear of ARMs so using a helicopter would also put it in the line of fire. Moreover it’s a rather expensive way of dealing with a problem which was shown to be handled by much cheaper means (AAA and Jamming).

 

[Fatman17]

Every tool has it's use, even if some tools use overlaps other tools, their are times when a specific tool is the correct tool for the job at hand


We need drones
We need FPV drones
We need EW and multilayered A.D

But I can see the utility if these helicopters on both borders against both terrorists and India

The only question I have is how many we need, I think traditionally anything between 40-80 would be respectable

But today, I'm not sure we need that much, and I'm not sure how many we have ordered or will receive

I think about 40 seems right, considering the size of our country, our enemies and the length of time these will serve (decades I assume)


I also hope our cobras or what's left of them can be used in Balochistan and Waziristan to provide quick support to our forces during attacks or COIN.
Unless they are dangerous to use, a helicopter gunship is the physical stamp of dominations to get the terrorists running,

40 examples as a minimum are required for operations against militants. Subject to how many Cobras are maintained and operational.

 

[Rational Philosopher]

Won't believe it till I see it. Pakistani defence community is infamous for making up low quality rumours out of thin air, zero credibility.

 

[Michael]

 

[Ali_Baba]

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A pairing of the WZ-10 with the WZ-21 would be interesting for sure as it will be an integrated battlefield solution!

 

[Michael]

A pairing of the WZ-10 with the WZ-21 would be interesting for sure as it will be an integrated battlefield solution!

The status of Z-10 in PLAGF is similar to that of J-10 in PLAAF.
The PLAGF's future focus is on the Z-20 series (Z-21 also belongs to the Z-20 series) helicopters.
The future fate of the Z-10 is basically the same as that of the J-10 series fighters.

 

[Pagal khaana]

So the cat is out of the bag

 

[RajaBaja]

Good Lord, can we PLEASE-PLEASE close this Topic (temporarily).

Its truly become one of the most sad and pathetic Topics for Years now (going all the way back to [PDF 1.0].

I agree with you. But look, we finally got them! Took what? Only like 22 years? Not bad........? (pun intended).

 

[RajaBaja]

If PA is inducting new attack helos, then they are anticipating a wider conflict including land forces next time around

That's not the issue behind these helo's. This is a platform need been there since the late 90's. We just had bad luck with this situation. Z-10 didn't meet expectation, Cobra Zulu's weren't delivered, Atack 1 had US engines, back to Z-10's again and then Z-10 ME's. Hopefully, now the Indian curse is over. Probably black magic done by IA so we won't get helos jk.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

If Indian armour isn't rolling,the need for gunships does not top the list.

With your logic , once India moves the Tanks and APC , we should twiddle our fingers and order the helicopters at that point

India activated 70 planes with a evil intent , if we did not had our air-force ready of course it would not be ideal for Pakistan

Helicopter Gunship play a vital role and we need to have 40 Gunships for each province

 

[Toxic]

With your logic , once India moves the Tanks and APC , we should twiddle our fingers and order the helicopters at that point

Holy shit! The first sane thing you have ever said

 

[Trailer23]

I agree with you. But look, we finally got them! Took what? Only like 22 years? Not bad........? (pun intended).

Yeah..., and not a moment too soon.

Maybe I should request more Topics to be closed. Shayed could aur mil jaey.