Why does the F-22P have limited potential lol.
This is what i dont understand. The Narusean class literally started off life the same as the F-22P, look now. The only reason it had limited potential was because the PN was broke and just needed ships. The hull is as capable as the weapons and sensors onboard.
There is also nothing realistic about the PN just adopting a weapons system, the FM3000N is launched via Chinese UVLS which is absolutely huge, that wouldn't even fit on Jinnah let alone F-22P. The FM-3000N is a missile that fits within the same class as the CAMM-ER but is likely to be worse for the same mission. Assuming you mean the FL-3000N/HQ-10, it is purely for PMDS, once again, in our threat environment, there is a reason why the PN has had to turn to CAMM-ER to be able to adequately deal with the threats posed. PMDS and other solutions just dont do it, CAMM-ER was designed with the Russian threat in mind, the Indians pose the same threat, i.e hypersonics. The interception ranges of these sort of PMDS drastically reduce to 'too close to comfort' for supersonics and then are likely very further degraded for hypersonics, posing the question of residual damage and how much they would be able to degrade the impact. This is why they are the 'last ditch' interception layer, like APS, where youll take damage, but mostly survive, maybe with a mission kill.
If you use the argument that the PLAN deploys the HQ-10 on its ships so it must be okay- unfortunately, the FL-3000N is not the same as the HQ-10 and has a different seeker and aerodynamic configuration, it also seems to be lacking behind the RIM-116 which in its block 2 form is significantly more capable. On top of that, once again, on their high end ships, forming part of the layer of defense.
Deck modifications are likely going to be the cheapest part of it all. the actual VLS system itself may end up being the costly part, but the great thing is they can be re used on other hull's so its effectively a one time cost.
The F-22P will probably be equipped similarly to Yarmook Batch 2, the CMS was always going to need to be upgraded, these ships were bought on a shoestring budget so its not unlikely theyre using that same chinese crap developed in the 80's.
"limited space, efficiency and crew comfort"
On training deployments, including port visits to the UK, the F-22P carried literally double the crew it usually does, in excess of 200 sailors.
Space limited for what, because the hull is perfectly capable of carrying those sensors and weapons.
For crew? Clearly cant be that limited if they're able to do months long deployments with double the crew.
The hull's themselves cost around $125m- of course, including the weapons and sensors fits.
A MK41 cell costs roughly 500k, a GWS-26 cell, one thats as dumb as it gets and as simple as it gets for VLS, likely costs nowhere near, i wouldnt be shocked if an 8 cell GWS launcher was sub 2m excl integration cost. Lets be silly and assume it was $4m for the GWS launcher and $1m for the integration, we now have $5m for VLS.
Lets peg the $8m cost of a smart S mk2 at 10-12m instead, you can pretty quickly see that a whole systems and sensors upgrade, excluding munitions would not exceed 50-60m per hull, which for the capability it brings- i.e 4 more high end vessels capable of meeting any regional threat, is a great option and price.
That levent range against Brahmos type targets is probably nonsense anyway and is alot likelier to be alot shorter lol.
PS, this is a dead argument anyway, the PN is seriously evaluating CAMM-ER for F-22P.
Its not a secret the PN wants VLS on those hulls, they tried to go for HQ-16 but its too big and a pretty poor missile by today's standards, logically, CAMM-ER was the next step. I have seen the studies first hand, the PN is going all in, they even want shore based CAMM-ER batteries, safe to say, budget isnt a super big concern when it comes to the PN's shopping list evidently with all of these projects going on.
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