Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

these Notams are not unusual, rather, are only training Notams!

according to the expert Damein something on twitter!

I concur, very little chance of any incoming attack

 

[Kambojaric]

Root meaning/cause behind India's NOTAMs?

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If that's the case, must commend India's army/politicians for these psychological games - no way would they attack before/after hosting US military for drills/exercises.

Opens up space for Pakistan to act freely on western border as like you say India would not dare escalate at that time.

It is already on Trump's bad list and his attempt of showing the world he is a peacemaker would be damaged if US forces were present in a country which actively escalated a military conflict.

 

[Pagal khaana]

Tonight beatings by Pak army at Leepa valley...

 

[RescueRanger]

India needs to close it´s border or seize the opportunity there will be alot of refugees from Pakistan eventually and the region. Indians have been desparately saying pak economy will collapse bla bla in vein for the last 80 years but it will during war time. It will be 2 fronts within the country as in civil war and against Afghanistan.

Once the first bullets go the Indians can easily begin to open the champagne bottles

It will single India stragetic beating Pakistan without even war and removing them from the board game

Now listen here you pea brained nincompoop. Frankly ive had had enough of you constantly hating Pakistan on a Pakistani forum.

I dont know why the other Pakistani mods have tolerated your asyrian A$$ gassing up this thread with your nonsense for so long. But you are now banned from this thread.

 

[TallGuy]

@gamaji

"Seven planes were shot down, seven brand new beautiful planes were shot down"

If they were brand new, they couldn't be Rafale, Mig-29 or Su-30, no?

Regards

actually 8 is the count of Rafales.

 

[SoulSpokesman]

@TallGuy

So how do we account for the -1?

Regards

 

[Aggregate]

Now listen here you pea brained nincompoop. Frankly ive had had enough of you constantlybhating Pakistan on a Pakistani forum.

I dont know why the other Pakistani mods have tolerated your asyrian A$$ gassing up this thread with your nonsense for so long. But you are now banned from this thread.

He claims to be a Syrian living in Australia but he knows more about India and Afghanistan than even Indians or Afghans themselves do. At the same time, I have seen him giving totally irrelevant responses about Middle East as if he has no clue.

He is an obvious Modi Bhakt pretending to be a Syrian. Thank you for finally banning him.

 

[Aggregate]

Well wouldn't that be the final nail in the coffin? India taking out a Chinese satellite opening a 2 front war for itself where they have already dug up their grave in advance?

Btw .. just to mention .. As of now, Anti Satellite weapons have become as dangerous as Nukes, in terms of debris chain reaction. With the launch of 10,000 Starlinks (8.5K operational), we now have 15,000 satellites in LEO, 200 in MEO and 700 in GEO (and SpaceX planning its own GEO launches too). So any satellite attack would create a debris cascade which would eventually take out all other satellites within that orbit. Even with the low number of GEOs, it would be devastating, as nobody will be able to reliably launch/replace any GEO satellites again due to the extremely high speed debris going around. Finally, humanity would be trapped on Earth forver, as no space vehicle would be able to leave due to the sheer amount of debris.

If India did that, it would not be a 2 Front war, it would be a 191 Front war as everyone would annihilate India collectively for doing that

US/Russia/China are now looking into alternative options of electronically disabling/frying satellites using other Satellites, since Kinetic AS weapons have become pointless now.

 

[Baibers_1260]

Look at the navies of countries with which IN brings its aircraft carrier for excercises. IN CBG will be loosely modelled around that navy's CBG.

Pakistan's options to harass IN CBG are PN subs and PAF's aicrafts armed with AShMs. Then PN's land based missiles as IN CBG closes towards Pakistan's coastline.

What are the assessed objectives in order of priority of the Indian Navy CBG. ?
- Destruction of the Pakistani Navy and Pakistan's sea board
coastal defenses?
- Blockade of Karachi and Gwadar ?
- Deep cruise missile strikes co-ordinating an Indian Air Force
and Army missile strikes targeting Pakistan's Nuclear
weapons assets and infrastructure ?
- Supporting an amphibious landing assault to capture the
Baluchistan Makran coastline and declare Baluchistan as an
independent state after it cedes control of its mineral wealth
to India ?
India is obviously eyeing Karachi as a war booty
In a "what if " scenario the Indian amphibious invasion may rely on some "India friendly " assets in Baluchistan and Sindh but the situation in Karachi could be different.
Some open questions:
- Would the people of Karachi engage an Indian marine and
navy occupying force in urban guerrilla combat and see the
city become another Gaza or Stalingrad ?
-Given the diversity of the population of Karachi, would there
even be a will to fight an invasion?
Wars are unpredictable but all Indian think tanks believe that a seaborne invasion of Pakistan, and the capture of Karachi is far easier than trying to capture Multan. The capture of Karachi and secession of Baluchistan, Sindh and KPK ( with KPK merging into Afghanistan) would reduce Pakistan to just Punjab which would become a rump state with no seaboard. A puppet Khalistan ( after a deal with Sikhs ) could then be setup merging Pakistani Punjab into Indian East Punjab.
As of now that appears to be the game plan.
@Signalian

 

[kimjongun]

What are the assessed objectives in order of priority of the Indian Navy CBG. ?
- Destruction of the Pakistani Navy and Pakistan's sea board
coastal defenses?
- Blockade of Karachi and Gwadar ?
- Deep cruise missile strikes co-ordinating an Indian Air Force
and Army missile strikes targeting Pakistan's Nuclear
weapons assets and infrastructure ?
- Supporting an amphibious landing assault to capture the
Baluchistan Makran coastline and declare Baluchistan as an
independent state after it cedes control of its mineral wealth
to India ?
India is obviously eyeing Karachi as a war booty
In a "what if " scenario the Indian amphibious invasion may rely on some "India friendly " assets in Baluchistan and Sindh but the situation in Karachi could be different.
Some open questions:
- Would the people of Karachi engage an Indian marine and
navy occupying force in urban guerrilla combat and see the
city become another Gaza or Stalingrad ?
-Given the diversity of the population of Karachi, would there
even be a will to fight an invasion?
Wars are unpredictable but all Indian think tanks believe that a seaborne invasion of Pakistan, and the capture of Karachi is far easier than trying to capture Multan. The capture of Karachi and secession of Baluchistan, Sindh and KPK ( with KPK merging into Afghanistan) would reduce Pakistan to just Punjab which would become a rump state with no seaboard. A puppet Khalistan ( after a deal with Sikhs ) could then be setup merging Pakistani Punjab into Indian East Punjab.
As of now that appears to be the game plan.
@Signalian

as someone who is living in karachi for 14 years now...its a 50/50 situation...Karachi's population is very diverse...these people dont want to protest or run campaigns for basic rights left alone the gurille warfare...

 

[hasn2009]

no, Karachites wont fight!


based on 15 years of living experience

dont expect low moral and dubious civic sense to do anything remotely honourable

Most of the people in Karachi (whether urdu speaking or not) are liars and deceitful!


if war breaks out expect riots and looting


fake surnames, the only thriving thing in Karachi

the bank, where I used to work, people used to change wives for more dowry!
(i.e these were educated people although most of them did not belong from Karachi but those who did, were no different!)


sorry!

Based on my experience living in Karachi, which is 10 years more than you, you are wrong, Karachiites are as patriotic as any other Pakistani.

 

[RescueRanger]

as someone who is living in karachi for 14 years now...its a 50/50 situation...Karachi's population is very diverse...these people dont want to protest or run campaigns for basic rights left alone the gurille warfare...

Correct.

Karachi bahis dont want to do heavy lifting. The city once known for its highly literate middle class and KGS alumni is now like night city from Cyberpunk universe .

I still love Karachi though. Dirty and full of crime as it is, somthing alluring about the old meeting the new with the colonial buildings standing a few meters away from modern glass ans aluminium structures.

The smell of brine in the air, the bun kebab wallas, the seedy underbelly of the city...

 

[NA71]

no, Karachites wont fight!


based on 15 years of living experience

dont expect low moral and dubious civic sense to do anything remotely honourable

Most of the people in Karachi (whether urdu speaking or not) are liars and deceitful!


if war breaks out expect riots and looting


fake surnames, the only thriving thing in Karachi

the bank, where I used to work, people used to change wives for more dowry!
(i.e these were educated people although most of them did not belong from Karachi but those who did, were no different!)


sorry!

@baqai do you read this?

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Based on my experience living in Karachi, which is 10 years more than you, you are wrong, Karachiites are as patriotic as any other Pakistani.

I am 41 years old and have lived there 2002 to 2018.

my parents still live in Karachi, I know people bec. I have worked in a bank and have seen riots of MAy 10 and December 2007!

what have you seen?!!

not to mention disasters due to urban floodings!

 

[Yasser76]

Based on my experience living in Karachi, which is 10 years more than you, you are wrong, Karachiites are as patriotic as any other Pakistani.

Yeah, Karachites really annoy me man, but never doubted their commitment to Pakistan, many of them risked a lot to move to Pakistan during partition. My family just stayed on the farms in Punjab we always lIved in. Hard for me to comment on how brave or not they are.