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Do you think PTI has a future without Imran Khan?

  • Yes

    Votes: 22 19.6%

  • No

    Votes: 80 71.4%

  • Only if senior leadership is released

    Votes: 10 8.9%
  • Total voters
    112
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Forsvaret said:
What has military establishment done for the country for the past 70+ years? Does anyone ever ask this question?
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Well.military establishment kept the country together so far.Balochistan was trying to gain independence since Pakistan's creation.Afghanistan wants half of Pakistan.india wants kashmir.there is also a sindhudesh party.military not only kept Pakistan together, but they also fought against all kinds of enemies.
 
F.O.X said:
Keep the public busy in useless rhetoric's and they will not ask questions about your performance.
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What else is military establishment doing with Pakistan for the past 70+ years? 🙄
 
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F.O.X said:
Case in point, it’s their opinion.. not reality.
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So why did the military establishment had to rig general elections 2024 and bring PDM in govt? Why did they change the reality of what people of Pakistan actually voted for in that election? 🙄
 
VCheng said:
You make some good points suitable for discussion, but I have opted to no longer participate actively in this thread due to IK's rabid cult followers.
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Same here. Can’t really participate due to rabid boot followers.
 
Forsvaret said:
So why did the military establishment had to rig general elections 2024 and bring PDM in govt? Why did they change the reality of what people of Pakistan actually voted for in that election? 🙄
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the same can be said about 2018 election, which elected PTI into power. so were they wrong as well ?
 
F.O.X said:
the same can be said about 2018 election, which elected PTI into power. so were they wrong as well ?
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So past wrong made that latter wrong "right"? Wrong is still wrong regardless of it happening in the past, present or the future. 🙄
 
F.O.X said:
SO PTI wrongly came into power ... correct ?
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Yes, in the past and when they later tried to come into power the correct way (general elections 2024), military establishment intervened and denied it on PDM’s behalf. 🙄
 
Forsvaret said:
Yes, in the past and when they later tried to come into power the correct way (general elections 2024), military establishment intervened and denied it on PDM’s behalf. 🙄
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So Establishment corrected their mistake, they brought PTI into power by intervening in 2018, and then they removed them from Power by intervening in 2024.... what's the issue in that ?

also by your logic, IK & PTI stole others mandate in 2018. please dont forget that.
 
I am sympathetic to Imran Khan and his plight... but I do recognize three things:

1. He ain't my daddy. When I think about lunch or dinner I forget he even exists. Never take a politician into your heart. .. that's just dumb.

2. He got himself into this mess. People lose majority in a democracy all the time. But they stay in the opposition... they don't throw all their toys away. Basically, Cricket is a stupid game and it doesn't teach you to defend yourself. Should have played Chess instead.

3. The Armed Forces are a FAR more vital institution than any bloody politician or even democracy itself. And it's because of the poo neighborhood we live in.
 
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Forsvaret said:
Did Iran also join US war against the Soviets after that happened? Isn’t Iran also Afghanistan’s neighbor?
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also big thing they were at war with Iraq , and we even supported Iran in that too . which at that time annoyed USA and KSA
 
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