New York poised for first South Asian - origin and Muslim mayor as Cuomo concedes to Mamdani

[AZ_HighCountry]

Good that this Indian Muslim won the New York City elections.

It will help reduce Islamophobia in USA.

Your optimism is to be admired.

 

[krash]

I don't think any of us can be a spokesperson for Islam. Let Saudi Arabia do that. lol.

No sir. Saudi Arabia can sit back down. The only representatives and authorities of Islam are the Quran and Sunnah. No man or men can speak for it after the Prophet (SAW).

Calling a person Muslim by name only is totally unfair.

And Haram, as per the Quran.

 

[Starlord]

People often say I only talk about negatives but this one of those things I like about USA, at least not the Trump's USA that no matter where you from or what your background is you can reach to the top with hard work and determination, America is truly a Great country minus its faults which every country has.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

People often say I only talk about negatives but this one of those things I like about USA, at least not the Trump's USA that no matter where you from or what your background is you can reach to the top with hard work and determination, America is truly a Great country minus its faults which every country has.

Yet you do seem to point out the negatives of your host country far more than the positives.

 

[Feroze]

No sir. Saudi Arabia can sit back down. The only representatives and authorities of Islam are the Quran and Sunnah. No man or men can speak for it after the Prophet (SAW).



And Haram, as per the Quran.

True, what you are saying, but the Saudis think they are the biggest authorities on Islam, lol.

 

[Oscar]

Yet you do seem to point out the negatives of your host country far more than the positives.

I think part of it is general Pakistani cynicism due to PTSD from the society they come from.
You get suspicious of even good things happening. Takes a while to shed that.

 

[Feroze]

People often say I only talk about negatives but this one of those things I like about USA, at least not the Trump's USA that no matter where you from or what your background is you can reach to the top with hard work and determination, America is truly a Great country minus its faults which every country has.

I have faced racism and discrimination in Canada.

The university professors are dishonest towards the students or they sneer at our names. I have had it happen to me before. Sorry but I sort of disagree with you.

https://www.weforum.org/stories/2017/05/job-applications-resume-cv-name-descrimination/

Check out this study at Toronto Metopolitan University.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

I have faced racism and discrimination in Canada.

The university professors are dishonest towards the students or they sneer at our names. I have had it happen to me before. Sorry but I sort of disagree with you.

https://www.weforum.org/stories/2017/05/job-applications-resume-cv-name-descrimination/

Check out this study at Toronto Metopolitan University.

Unable to access your link but it may be a local issue with me.

 

[Feroze]

Unable to access your link but it may be a local issue with me.

Here are the contents of the article:

Here’s why you didn’t get that job: your name​

May 23, 2017

What's in a name ... the entire direction of your career, according to new research
Image: REUTERS/Mark Makela

Stéphanie Thomson​

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After spending hours trawling through job listings, you’ve finally come across the perfect role. You’ve got the qualifications, the experience and the soft skills the company is after. All you have to do is send off your résumé and wait for the phone call.
A week goes by, then two, then a month, and still you hear nothing. They probably found someone even more qualified for the position, you tell yourself. But then it happens again. You go over your résumé with a fine-tooth comb. There must be something in there that’s putting off recruiters. Is there a typo? Do your hobbies make you sound dull?
It turns out there could be something far more personal getting in the way: your name.

Image: Flazingo Photos
Mr Smith, you’re hired
That’s according to researchers at Ryerson University and the University of Toronto. As part of a different study from 2011, researchers sent out almost 13,000 fake résumés to over 3,000 job postings. The academics went back to this data at the start of 2017 and found that people with Chinese, Indian or Pakistani-sounding names were 28% less likely to get invited to an interview than the fictitious candidates with English-sounding names, even when their qualifications were the same.

Image: REUTERS/Lucy Nicholson
In some situations, the discrimination was even worse. For example, if résumés had an Asian-sounding name paired with some or all foreign qualifications, employers were between 35% (in the case of large firms) and 60% (in the case of small firms) less likely to call the candidate for an interview.
An all too familiar story
The study drew on data from job listings in Canada, but this problem is by no means limited to one country.
For example, a smaller study commissioned by the French government last year found that employers were less likely to interview candidates with North African-sounding names.
Over in the United Kingdom, an all-parliamentary group study from 2012 found that women who “whitened” their names or made them sound more British had to send only half as many applications before being invited to interview as those who sounded foreign.
Searching for a solution
So what can be done about this widespread problem? Some people say it’s about educating recruiters, so they become aware of the decisions they’re making and why. “We’re not claiming that employers engage in discriminatory behaviour consciously or that this is necessarily an issue of racism,” explains Marianne Bertrand, a researcher who worked on yet another study revealing bias in hiring. “It is important to teach people in charge of hiring about the subconscious biases they may have, and figure out a way to change these patterns.”
Indeed, that’s what many companies have started doing, providing training in unconscious bias. But some experts are sceptical, pointing to studies that show this type of training doesn’t work, and could in fact be having the opposite effect.
Others, such as former British Prime Minister David Cameron, have pushed for an even simpler solution: force companies to strip out names and other identifying features in résumés. In the UK, some big companies – HSBC, KPMG and Deloitte, for example – have already implemented what is being called “name-blind recruitment” in an attempt to stamp out discrimination.
The problem with this approach is that it perhaps only delays the inevitable: once the candidate makes it to a face-to-face interview, unconscious (and sometimes conscious) bias rears its ugly head again.

Image: REUTERS/Andrew Cullen
For example, a study in Sweden found no increase in the rate at which ethnic minority candidates were hired after the use of anonymous résumés.
While we’ve yet come up with an effective solution to the problem, there’s a lot riding on this. Ethnically diverse companies are 35% more likely to outperform their non-diverse counterparts. Those organizations that discriminate in their hiring aren’t just doing potential candidates a disservice – they’re shooting themselves in the foot.

https://www.weforum.org/stories/2017/05/job-applications-resume-cv-name-descrimination/

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Here are the contents of the article:

Here’s why you didn’t get that job: your name​

May 23, 2017

What's in a name ... the entire direction of your career, according to new research
Image: REUTERS/Mark Makela

Stéphanie Thomson​

Writer, Forum Stories

Share:​

Our Impact
What's the World Economic Forum doing to accelerate action on Jobs and the Future of Work?

The Big Picture

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Stay up to date:​

Future of Work​

Follow

After spending hours trawling through job listings, you’ve finally come across the perfect role. You’ve got the qualifications, the experience and the soft skills the company is after. All you have to do is send off your résumé and wait for the phone call.
A week goes by, then two, then a month, and still you hear nothing. They probably found someone even more qualified for the position, you tell yourself. But then it happens again. You go over your résumé with a fine-tooth comb. There must be something in there that’s putting off recruiters. Is there a typo? Do your hobbies make you sound dull?
It turns out there could be something far more personal getting in the way: your name.

Image: Flazingo Photos
Mr Smith, you’re hired
That’s according to researchers at Ryerson University and the University of Toronto. As part of a different study from 2011, researchers sent out almost 13,000 fake résumés to over 3,000 job postings. The academics went back to this data at the start of 2017 and found that people with Chinese, Indian or Pakistani-sounding names were 28% less likely to get invited to an interview than the fictitious candidates with English-sounding names, even when their qualifications were the same.

Image: REUTERS/Lucy Nicholson
In some situations, the discrimination was even worse. For example, if résumés had an Asian-sounding name paired with some or all foreign qualifications, employers were between 35% (in the case of large firms) and 60% (in the case of small firms) less likely to call the candidate for an interview.
An all too familiar story
The study drew on data from job listings in Canada, but this problem is by no means limited to one country.
For example, a smaller study commissioned by the French government last year found that employers were less likely to interview candidates with North African-sounding names.
Over in the United Kingdom, an all-parliamentary group study from 2012 found that women who “whitened” their names or made them sound more British had to send only half as many applications before being invited to interview as those who sounded foreign.
Searching for a solution
So what can be done about this widespread problem? Some people say it’s about educating recruiters, so they become aware of the decisions they’re making and why. “We’re not claiming that employers engage in discriminatory behaviour consciously or that this is necessarily an issue of racism,” explains Marianne Bertrand, a researcher who worked on yet another study revealing bias in hiring. “It is important to teach people in charge of hiring about the subconscious biases they may have, and figure out a way to change these patterns.”
Indeed, that’s what many companies have started doing, providing training in unconscious bias. But some experts are sceptical, pointing to studies that show this type of training doesn’t work, and could in fact be having the opposite effect.
Others, such as former British Prime Minister David Cameron, have pushed for an even simpler solution: force companies to strip out names and other identifying features in résumés. In the UK, some big companies – HSBC, KPMG and Deloitte, for example – have already implemented what is being called “name-blind recruitment” in an attempt to stamp out discrimination.
The problem with this approach is that it perhaps only delays the inevitable: once the candidate makes it to a face-to-face interview, unconscious (and sometimes conscious) bias rears its ugly head again.

Image: REUTERS/Andrew Cullen
For example, a study in Sweden found no increase in the rate at which ethnic minority candidates were hired after the use of anonymous résumés.
While we’ve yet come up with an effective solution to the problem, there’s a lot riding on this. Ethnically diverse companies are 35% more likely to outperform their non-diverse counterparts. Those organizations that discriminate in their hiring aren’t just doing potential candidates a disservice – they’re shooting themselves in the foot.

https://www.weforum.org/stories/2017/05/job-applications-resume-cv-name-descrimination/

Somehow, I am not surprised.

It wasn't that long ago when I had direct reports. As a manager, I was looking for qualified people to build my teams. Not names. If your CV met the requirements for the position, you were given an opportunity to sit with me.

If you weren't selected for the role, it wasn't because of your name.

 

[Starlord]

Yet you do seem to point out the negatives of your host country far more than the positives.

Well I am a negative person in General, if you want me to tell you positives about America that I noticed, create a thread and tag me I will tell you. They might not see a lot because to me positive can be as small as putting the "Workers working Ahead" keep left sign to tell people to be careful while driving, now to you it may not a big thing for me it is because I lived in a Chaotic city where no law matters or no signs are put when workers are working, but just because a host country is good doesn't change the bad part, I won't cheer for US support of Genocide and killing of toddlers in Gaza just because USA was nice to me. You see I have morals and ethics which a lot of you lot lack these days.

 

[Feroze]

Somehow, I am not surprised.

It wasn't that long ago when I had direct reports. As a manager, I was looking for qualified people to build my teams. Not names. If your CV met the requirements for the position, you were given an opportunity to sit with me.

If you weren't selected for the role, it wasn't because of your name.

Look, USA is a great country and racism is everywhere. People need to learn how to cope with it.

 

[Starlord]

I think part of it is general Pakistani cynicism due to PTSD from the society they come from.
You get suspicious of even good things happening. Takes a while to shed that.

Sure (Roll eyes)

 

[hussain0216]

What's Mamdani planning to do? Confiscate the empty units?

Don't be surprised if landlords elect to shutter the units than rent out.

Highlight it

When people act like scum bags, sometimes the smartest thing you can do is highlight it to everyone just to show the general public what scum bags your dealing with

Trump and MAGA are going to cause the U.S some serious serious pain with their crazy, the likelihood of a general backlash across the USA both in the mid-terms and in the next general elections is very high


Is new York suddenly going to become a paradise??? The answer is no

But if mamdani is active, if he puts himself about and it's seen as he is trying to find solutions and fix problems then that will get him a lot of support

At the moment a decent honest politician trying to help his constituents is worth far far more then all the crooked, self serving, AIPAC supported sexual deviants the U.S is afflicted by

 

[Meengla]

But if mamdani is active, if he puts himself about and it's seen as he is trying to find solutions and fix problems then that will get him a lot of support

At the moment a decent honest politician trying to help his constituents is worth far far more then all the crooked, self serving, AIPAC supported sexual deviants the U.S is afflicted by

Right.
Talk is cheap when politicians are promising everything and why won't the electorates listen to those who promise them the moon? But delivering is something else. Entirely something else. What if Mamdani's extra taxes on the rich drive away the 'business' from NYC? Who'd generate the revenue for the promised largesse given to the poor of NYC?
Also, the overall debate in America is scaring me about the future of this country. Again and again I think of the 1850s where the differences become so irreconciable that the 1860 Civil War happened. As it was then and as it is now, there are racial under currents along with major directions about the flow of wealth. It is scary but I am hoping I am wrong. Very much hoping.