Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[Vkdindian1]

And I would say again the scale of victory achieved in Afghanistan over multiple enemies by the ISI and GHQ was incredible regardless of Taliban behaviour now

And I would say it again that I would have accepted it as a great victory, if it hadn’t turned out the way it has. Because it is not about just one event which was to drive out the US and india and put Taliban in Kabul, but also to manage the events thereafter to ones advantage. The advantage gained in 2021 was squandered by poor planning by the establishment. They could have done better. These are not solo events.

It was truly a Historic day & a Historic victory that’s worthy of celebrations till today. Geo-politics is surely a long game. Took us 20 years to achieve it.

20 years of planning, all down the drain in 4 years. And how has the last 4 years turned out? How many people have lost their lives to fassad on your western areas in last 4 years compared to 20 Years before that? The fact that you don’t want to even acknowledge the failures shows your dishonesty in discussing it. Poor attempt to deflect with nice words.

You had no chance to respond that day, you were running away from Kabul, leaving your dhotis behind.

That dhoti is back on. How about that?

Know this, The Taliban was, is & will remain our project

I can sense your fingers trembling while typing these lies.

Many Fatah landed in Srinagar air bases as an example

Yes many landed at many bases. Bases spread over 1000s of acres where a mere miss of few meters to hit anything valuable is all between falling inside a base and causing any verifiable damage. Just that the damage caused by them is known to only Bhakts on your side. We have been over that many times. Please sell it to your awam.

 

[flyingorca]

And I would say it again that I would have accepted it as a great victory, if it hadn’t turned out the way it has. Because it is not about just one event which was to drive out the US and india and put Taliban in Kabul, but also to manage the events thereafter to ones advantage. The advantage gained in 2021 was squandered by poor planning by the establishment. They could have done better. These are not solo events.



20 years of planning, all down the drain in 4 years. And how has the last 4 years turned out? How many people have lost their lives to fassad on your western areas in last 4 years compared to 20 Years before that? The fact that you don’t want to even acknowledge the failures shows your dishonesty in discussing it. Poor attempt to deflect with nice words.



That dhoti is back on. How about that?



I can sense your fingers trembling while typing these lies.


Yes many landed at many bases. Bases spread over 1000s of acres where a mere miss of few meters to hit anything valuable is all between falling inside a base and causing any verifiable damage. Just that the damage caused by them is known to only Bhakts on your side. We have been over that many times. Please sell it to your awam.

Didnt you say Indian air defence did not intercept some Fatah rockets because they went ashtray so instead of twisting words tell us exactly how that is possible? Does Indian military have time machine where they can tell which missile is gonna go "ashtray"?

 

[Master Chief]

Wrong.

Now you are going onto lying category to stand by a wrong line of argument that you adopted earlier. Trump has said enough about both Russia and China.


That’s the difference between mature nations and not so mature ones. Geopolitics has strange ways of playing out and the gestation period is a little longer than 6 months.

Example - Afghanistan. Your temperament seems to be of the type who would have been celebrating on that day when ISI chief was having that cuppa at Kabul airport. We all know, how that turned out. Did India respond on that day?

So, my advice- Don’t burst all your crackers so fast.

Actually some good points here.

The problem is, India has not been practicing what you are preaching this year.

Indeed, there has been an ideological paradigm shift, wherein India, since the events of May, has been quite literally scrambling in all directions for any sort of "victory" that is decisive enough against Pakistan to assuage national insecurities. Cricket, the visual fiction industry, Shashi Uncle, diaspora Indians and paid provocateurs have all acted on Delhi's behalf in a completely non-cohesive, unrestrained and directionless manner.

The panic that set in which forced Delhi to directly and openly align with the Talib regime is perhaps the biggest example of this rushed and panicked case of amateurish mismanagement.

 

[SoulSpokesman]

@Master Chief

India's alignment with the Talibs didn't happen overnight during the AFG FM's trip. It didn't even start with the Sindoor War. It has been happening for quite some time, at least 2 years.

Regards

 

[Baibers_1260]

Yes many landed at many bases. Bases spread over 1000s of acres where a mere miss of few meters to hit anything valuable is all between falling inside a base and causing any verifiable damage. Just that the damage caused by them is known to only Bhakts on your side. We have been over that many times. Please sell it to your awam.

Ok so you "won " that round "unscathed " ...( according to you and as reported by Republic TV). We will neglect the "Numbers are not important" statement by you4 Chief of Defence staff and accept the description of that statement as "Manohar Kahaniya " by Air Chief Marshal Amarpreet Singh,
So the questions still put there:
1. Could you confirm that as reported by Republic TV, :
(a) The "port of Lahore" captured ,was
(b) The city of Karachi was "blockaded"
(c) "Pakistan Occupied Kashmir" was liberated
Our Bhakts here keep peddling false news so a confirmation of the above events would be very helpful.

2. Since India "won" that round and the mission was accomplished , why this long pause before the next round is initiated ?

Regards

 

[Master Chief]

@Master Chief

India's alignment with the Talibs didn't happen overnight during the AFG FM's trip. It didn't even start with the Sindoor War. It has been happening for quite some time, at least 2 years.

Regards

If I were Indian, I would simply have kept it quiet for another 20 years!

Shambolic!

The best case scenario for India now, having played and revealed her full hand of cards, is if the Talibs somehow hold onto power in Kabul. Just let that paradigm sink in.

 

[PK781]

Who is that?

the retarded "President" of the country......currently its Zardari

what a shitshow that would be

 

[SoulSpokesman]

@Master Chief

The best case scenario for India now, having played and revealed her full hand of cards, is if the Talibs somehow hold onto power in Kabul.

Isn't this a huge change from August 2021 when the Talibs holding onto power in Kabul was a big loss?

Regards

 

[Vkdindian1]

Didnt you say Indian air defence did not intercept some Fatah rockets because they went ashtray so instead of twisting words tell us exactly how that is possible? Does Indian military have time machine where they can tell which missile is gonna go "ashtray"?

Can’t the radars track a missile and see where it’s headed? When you track a missile then you are likely to know its vectors and the intended targets. Or they used soft kill methods. Like Spoofing, jamming etc etc. No one has shared the exact data and the methods with me.

I am pretty sure that Fatah must have been fired towards specific targets within those bases. It is supposed to be a precision weapon and wasn’t able cause any verifiable damage indicates that Indian AD did its job. Falling within bases is not a success. Hitting valuable targets within those bases is success.

No amount of postmortem of my English or explanation would change that fact.

The panic that set in which forced Delhi to directly and openly align with the Talib regime is perhaps the biggest example of this rushed and panicked case of amateurish mismanagement.

The bonhomie with Talibs could have definitely been fast tracked due to recent events. Without that, probably India would have taken more time.

But, isn’t geopolitics an evolving phenomenon and certain events can lead to quick decisions like this one. One man’s panic can be seen as other man’s clever moves. Calling it panic or deftness would depend on that.

I am still not claiming any success in this regard. Because a lot can still happen over next few years.

My point is that the assumptions and claims by many posters that all the cards are held by Pakistan are naive attempts of self exaggeration. One must be a nationalist but not blind.

 

[flyingorca]

the retarded "President" of the country......currently its Zardari

what a shitshow that would be

PTI and Imran Khan had a chance to be subordinate of Military but they blew it. Now we are stuck with PPP AND PMLN.
Pakistan situation is not like New Zealand infact the situation is very complex. We have to deal with India Afg on two borders. Maintain diplomatic ties with two opposing side Iran and Arabs then China and US. just handing out free meals to poor is not even to run very complicated Pakistan. Even though imran khan as an individual may be a very good person but you dont just let humanitarian workers run the government.

 

[flyingorca]

Can’t the radars track a missile and see where it’s headed? When you tack a missile then you are likely to know its vectors and the intended targets. Or they used soft kill methods. Like Spoofing, jamming etc etc.

I am pretty sure that Fatah must have been fired towards specific targets within those bases. It is supposed to be a precision weapon and wasn’t able cause any verifiable damage indicates that Indian AD did its job.

No amount of postmortem of my English or explanation would change that fact.

Its almost impossible to track maneuverable projectiles intended target. Infact old generation ballistic missiles with no maneuverability is much easier to track. Fateh II has unpredictable path so its nearly impossible to tell where they are heading.
If India was jamming Pakistani rockets that were headed towards airbases then that is a very bad planning. The debris can hinder bases operations and the threat needs to be neutralized before its over your head.

 

[Vkdindian1]

Its almost impossible to track maneuverable projectiles intended target. Infact old generation ballistic missiles with no maneuverability is much easier to track. Fateh II has unpredictable path so its nearly impossible to tell where they are heading.
If India was jamming Pakistani rockets that were headed towards airbases then that is a very bad planning. The debris can hinder bases operations and the threat needs to be neutralized before its over your head.

I guess you have domain knowledge. My comments are based on acquired information from various sources.

But it is a choice between loosing a high value asset to general damage. Pakistan also had claimed to have neutralised Indian missiles through soft kill.

Probably, that is the last resort.

Regarding Indian AD neutralising Fatah, my comments are assumptions. I could be wrong. And we would never know.

 

[NA71]

@Master Chief

India's alignment with the Talibs didn't happen overnight during the AFG FM's trip. It didn't even start with the Sindoor War. It has been happening for quite some time, at least 2 years.

Regards

Bhai aap phir aa gaey ....without any knowledge

 

[SoulSpokesman]

@NA71

Bhai, I am only commenting on matters I know about-India's foreign policy. I have refrained from all comments on military matters, which I know little about.

Regards

 

[NA71]

@NA71

Bhai, I am only commenting on matters I know about-India's foreign policy. I have refrained from all comments on military matters, which I know little about.

Regards

"Rafale ney aik Karishma kiya hy " your def. Ministers says....some light on his statement....plz