Russia - Ukraine war part ll. News and Discussions

[meh_analysis]

As I've said repeatedly; time and numbers favor the Russians.

Ukrainian are literally making up numbers on the frontline. So many deserters are in the Ukrainian army that it's literally funny, like 20-30% desertion rates with generous sources.

 

[dbc]

There is no need for name calling and insults. If you have resort to insults you've already lost the argument.

 

[F-22Raptor]

As I've said repeatedly; time and numbers favor the Russians.

Numbers have favored Russia since Day 1 of the war. We’re approaching Year 5 of the war.

The Donbass is irrelevant to the overall strategic outcomes of the war. An the Russians have shown zero ability to exploit breakthroughs to operational or strategic effect.

Let the Russians get ground to a pulp in eastern Ukraine.

 

[meh_analysis]

Numbers have favored Russia since Day 1 of the war. We’re approaching Year 5 of the war.

The Donbass is irrelevant to the overall strategic outcomes of the war. An the Russians have shown zero ability to exploit breakthroughs to operational or strategic effect.

Let the Russians get ground to a pulp in eastern Ukraine.

I'll stop you. Ukraine and Russia had parity with Russia only having 1.5-2 times the advantage. Very much similar or even less than what Pakistan and India had in 65. Also this is a new battlefield, plus wars like these push for ever considering this is the first new era war where specialized equipment is only built in hundreds not thousands or tens of thousands. Again not the main point, the drones and trench made it difficult for any breakthrough. Not to mention intelligence and bad strategy. Along with Russian objective, was it to deter Ukraine from attacking more? Conquering land? Push the lines till a stalemate for negotiation? Now after 3 years of fighting the Russian have finally understand what they want. Hence why it would be different from the previous 3 years. Not to mention the manpower diminish in Ukraine, the manpower ratio is bad for Ukriane. Almost 1:1.2-1.5 at best over the course of the war which is horrendous as Russia is advancing. Right now Russian have done some great maneuvers and have flanked many of the major stronghold. Also Russians have exploited all breakthroughs, this isn't HOI4, a single breakthrough doesn't mean you stream roll the Frontline. It is incremental, like Vuhledar where Russians advance quickly towards Prokrovsk. Like it took them only a month to reach the outskirts and then required nearly a year to finally take control so yeah, they do exploit just that mechanized pushes are far slower. Hence why the war feel so slow, Russians are winning but it doesn't feel like it cause the war is more WW1 trench warfare rather than WW2 blitzkrieg.

 

[meh_analysis]

There is no need for name calling and insults. If you have resort to insults you've already lost the argument.

Sorry, it was sarcasm but Ik it might hurt some people so I won't do it again.

 

[Yommie]

As I've said repeatedly; time and numbers favor the Russians.

Russia also has material support from China and that's vital for Russia.

 

[F-22Raptor]

I'll stop you. Ukraine and Russia had parity with Russia only having 1.5-2 times the advantage. Very much similar or even less than what Pakistan and India had in 65. Also this is a new battlefield, plus wars like these push for ever considering this is the first new era war where specialized equipment is only built in hundreds not thousands or tens of thousands. Again not the main point, the drones and trench made it difficult for any breakthrough. Not to mention intelligence and bad strategy. Along with Russian objective, was it to deter Ukraine from attacking more? Conquering land? Push the lines till a stalemate for negotiation? Now after 3 years of fighting the Russian have finally understand what they want. Hence why it would be different from the previous 3 years. Not to mention the manpower diminish in Ukraine, the manpower ratio is bad for Ukriane. Almost 1:1.2-1.5 at best over the course of the war which is horrendous as Russia is advancing. Right now Russian have done some great maneuvers and have flanked many of the major stronghold. Also Russians have exploited all breakthroughs, this isn't HOI4, a single breakthrough doesn't mean you stream roll the Frontline. It is incremental, like Vuhledar where Russians advance quickly towards Prokrovsk. Like it took them only a month to reach the outskirts and then required nearly a year to finally take control so yeah, they do exploit just that mechanized pushes are far slower. Hence why the war feel so slow, Russians are winning but it doesn't feel like it cause the war is more WW1 trench warfare rather than WW2 blitzkrieg.

Russias offensive is a creeping one, with massive losses of manpower as a result. 2025 has been by far the worst year of casualties for Russia since they prioritized infantry based assaults instead of mechanized. Number of dead is 150k-200K alone in 2025. Confirmed over 100K in July by Trump and Rubio.

To date, Russias strategic goals have been defeated. The Donbass is ultimately irrelevant in the grand scheme. It will cost many more Russian lives to take the entirety.

Overall, they’ve inflicted significant damage on Ukraine, but have failed in their overall objective of overthrowing Z, installing a puppet government, and militarily controlling the country.

It’s been a humiliating war for Russia and they have weakened themselves considerably relative to the US/West.

 

[meh_analysis]

Russias offensive is a creeping one, with massive losses of manpower as a result. 2025 has been by far the worst year of casualties for Russia since they prioritized infantry based assaults instead of mechanized. Number of dead is 150k-200K alone in 2025. Confirmed over 100K in July by Trump and Rubio.

To date, Russias strategic goals have been defeated. The Donbass is ultimately irrelevant in the grand scheme. It will cost many more Russian lives to take the entirety.

Overall, they’ve inflicted significant damage on Ukraine, but have failed in their overall objective of overthrowing Z, installing a puppet government, and militarily controlling the country.

It’s been a humiliating war for Russia and they have weakened themselves considerably relative to the US/West.

Cope. All wars aren't the same, wait another two years and let's come back here on November of 2027.

 

[F-22Raptor]

Cope. All wars aren't the same, wait another two years and let's come back here on November of 2027.

It’s reality, not cope.

To date, this war for Russia is a Pyrrhic victory and for Putin a sunk cost fallacy because he has so little to show for it.

 

[meh_analysis]

It’s reality, not cope.

To date, this war for Russia is a Pyrrhic victory and for Putin a sunk cost fallacy because he has so little to show for it.

Causality rates are grossly exaggerated. It's all Ukrainian sources. Russia hasn't loss more than Ukraine in 2025, it's more net positive than negative through neutral sources. Also Russia is advancing at a rapid rate in a month they could had their largest exploit of 2025.

 

[F-22Raptor]

Causality rates are grossly exaggerated. It's all Ukrainian sources. Russia hasn't loss more than Ukraine in 2025, it's more net positive than negative through neutral sources. Also Russia is advancing at a rapid rate in a month they could had their largest exploit of 2025.

No, Russia has lost far more than Ukraine this year. Over 100,000 dead Russians by July in this year alone. Thats confirmed by Pres Trump and Sec Rubio. The Russians have been slaughtered this year, but they have a lot of mass. Most of those are poor Russian men being offered enormous bonuses they’d never see in their lifetime otherwise.

 

[meh_analysis]

No, Russia has lost far more than Ukraine this year. Over 100,000 dead Russians by July in this year alone. Thats confirmed by Pres Trump and Sec Rubio. The Russians have been slaughtered this year, but they have a lot of mass. Most of those are poor Russian men being offered enormous bonuses they’d never see in their lifetime otherwise.

Ngl I ain't gonna debate. Tbh I don't really care about the conflict that isn't related to me apart from how tactics and strategy evolve from it. So you can accept whatever you want

 

[Yommie]

It’s not even up for debate. You can find huge amounts of dead Russians on X alone. Piles after piles

@AZ_HighCountry @Waz

This kind of language is disgusting.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Russia also has material support from China and that's vital for Russia.

Just as the Ukes are getting material support from the West.

 

[Yommie]

Just as the Ukes are getting material support from the West.

True, but Russia has more material than Ukraine has. Every inch of Ukraine is under Russian missile range but Ukrainian missiles cannot reach the Russian far east 6,000+ km away.