JF-17 - Updates, News & Discussion

[Mohid Afzal]

In the international fighter jet trade, publicly available order information usually only includes the total number of fighter jets and the total contract value. However, a complete contract typically includes not only the fighter jets themselves, but also weapons, spare parts (including engines and other spare components), pilot training, and in some cases, base construction, combat command systems, communication systems, MRO (maintenance, repair, and overhaul), and technology transfer. No contract publicly discloses all the specific details.

Therefore, it is a significant mistake to assess the unit price of a fighter jet based solely on the total contract value and the total number of fighter jets.

I told him the exact same thing but to him and one guy from Chile, it's 115 million usd per frame

 

[Mohid Afzal]

that's the price for f35A man

bro, that's what I thought as well but you can't argue with those who aren't willing to listen

 

[Yasser76]

if Behrain is buting so will be other small KSA allied countries

Yeah, Bahrain could well be a candidate, read somewhere around 25% of their AF is Pakstani

 

[Yasser76]

The restriction on the Pakistan Armed Forces being more "actively" involved in the defence of these middle eastern countries has been the sensitivity of having Pakistani officers having proximity to, or the operation of the latest western systems like the F15/Rafale/F16 Block 60's/Typhoons due to their concern of passage of information to China.

So, as you say, the solution to the multitude of riddles is having Pakistani officers operating Pakistani weapons(JF17C's/J10CE's/J-35A's/Kaan etc) in the middle east itself.

This will help the Americans to eventually leave the middle east ( to the extent Israel will allow them to leave of course ) and for a friendly country to the USA ie Pakistan to fill that void and help the middle east defend themselves. A more favourable outcome then allowing the Indian's to fill the void, but also strategically important as India may become a problem for the USA down the road and Pakistan will never(too small to become that problem), and of course the India-Israel combo will sow more chaos in the middle east as shown in India's help to Israel in the Iran-Israel war this year. The middle east will be far more comfortable working with Pakistan both than 'Modi's' India anyway right now.

The crash of the Tejas is quite symbolic as it in itself, it is the crashing of India's middle east strategy as well as the jet.

Saudi Arabia will be more likely than Iran right now, due to the strategic defence agreement imho. All speculation.

Yeah, I think US restrictions of Pak personnel not as bad as they were now (It will be Pak pilots flaying many F-16Vs in Bahrain and probably F-15Qs in Qatar).

Think India's poor showing in May made many Arab countries and US realise if it cannot physically punch through Pakistan it has no chance of being a net security provider, and as you say, India's closeness with Israel has back fired within GCC (Ask the Qataris!)

 

[sutton9999]

This will help the Americans to eventually leave the middle east ( to the extent Israel will allow them to leave of course )

Why, America will never leave, it is absurd.

What they say publicly is not relevant.

 

[hasssanali8998]

GCC (Ask the Qataris!)

lmao they are blind they don't care .

 

[Yasser76]

lmao they are blind they don't care .

No Bhai, they held 8 Indian officers for a few years and ignored Indian pressure, sentenced them to death (later commuted). No no Indian citizen is allowed anywhere near their defence projects.

 

[Gripen9]

 

[The SC]

Pakistan announces the sale of JF-17 Thunder fighters to a "friendly country"​

November 1, 2025:

Pakistan signed a memorandum of understanding with a friendly country to sell its JF-17 Thunder fighters, sparking widespread interest among defense analysts, aviation experts and visitors to the Dubai Airshow 2025.

According to Pakistani media, Pakistan signed a deal to sell JF-17 Thunder Block 3 fighters to a friendly country during the Dubai Air Show, after Azerbaijan received its last batches of this model. These fighters are distinguished by their advanced technologies, combat capabilities, and high cost efficiency.

The statement issued by the Pakistani mission in Dubai did not reveal the name of the country concerned nor the number of fighters sold, but it indicated that several other countries had shown interest in acquiring JF-17 fighters, an indication of growing international confidence in the Pakistani aviation industry.

 

[lightning f57]

Additionally, we are not discussing the possible(real) level of customisation options that Azerbaijan requested as changes to the platform which itself would have taken a time and material basis to make, certify and then get ready for manufacturing.

It is good to see Azerbijan to start to get their birds. Hopefully we can then start to see some part of the manufacturing line dedicated back to PAF orders to help replace the remaining F7PG's and of course, the large remaining fleet of Mirages.

May help finance expanding the fleet.

 

[lightning f57]

more i think about it, the more i suspect Qatar may be the next customer, lots of circumstantial evidence

We have flown JF-17C in exercises with them a lot
they gave up Eurofighters to Turkiye
Israeli strike maybe made them lose some faith in their western set up
still large number of Pak advisors in QAF
qatar being mentioned for Pak-Qatar defence agreement similar to Saudi one


I could be wrong but I am veering to Qatar here

Depends on the role for point defence airdenial but vs a future Israeli strike package a plane with longer legs and missiles which can go further would be much preferred, EF fits that mould as does the J10. But given these are still inferior to F35s, would they be open to J35s? What would make a good training platform to move up to the J35, lots of questions to ponder.

 

[Ibbi32]

more i think about it, the more i suspect Qatar may be the next customer, lots of circumstantial evidence

We have flown JF-17C in exercises with them a lot
they gave up Eurofighters to Turkiye
Israeli strike maybe made them lose some faith in their western set up
still large number of Pak advisors in QAF
qatar being mentioned for Pak-Qatar defence agreement similar to Saudi one


I could be wrong but I am veering to Qatar here

Qatar is pretty firmly in the western camp. We would have easier success with saudis than with qataris, not to mention that qatar still has an incredibly potent airforce and the eurofighters they give up already have new replacements ordered.

 

[huanghong]

Guys, I need some help ... as far as I remember in the old forum there was once a thread likely named "jf17-6 and jf20 are self made models for military enthusiasts" showing these well-known and often claimed as JF-17 Block 4 + or whatever models but it was built by a Chinese modeller:

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/jf17-6-and-jf20-are-self-made-models-for-military-enthusiasts.594338/

I think it even included an interview said Chinese enthusiast.

Does anyone know if it or the original report is still available?

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@Musings

Oh, isn't this the self-funded work of "yes413aa", a famous model enthusiast on the Super Military Base Camp? I remember he claimed on the forum that he gave it to Pakistani exhibitor at the 2016 Zhuhai Airshow.

 

[Deino]

Oh, isn't this the self-funded work of "yes413aa", a famous model enthusiast on the Super Military Base Camp? I remember he claimed on the forum that he gave it to Pakistani exhibitor at the 2016 Zhuhai Airshow.

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Exactly

 

[Desprado123]

Can somone post this article fully.

Azerbaijan inducts JF-17 fighters from Pakistan

Azerbaijan has inducted into its inventory Pakistan Aeronautical Complex/Chengdu Aircraft Industry Corporation (PAC/CAC) JF-17 Thunder combat aircraft, the office of the...

www.janes.com

I mean screenshot or quoted fully as it requires subsribtion to read full article.