An Indian Tejas fighter jet crashed during an aerial display at the Dubai Air Show

[r3alist]

Doesn't there come a point where some form of Pakistani response is necessary on blind accusations


Maybe not even officially, maybe from some media personalities, or other prominent people.... But the fact that the media has made a number of direct accusations knowing this sort of thing will need thorough investigation, isn't it about time?


With the airliner jet tragedy, earlier this year, as well, and then the ease at which accusations very serious ones, can be implied with no recourse should not be a habit

 

[SABRE]

Somehow the Indian started to spread this on social media, 300+ J-15, lol wut?

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Stats are definitely off. J-15 count is definitely hilarious. There are 5 known crashes of JF-17, not 7. But given the rigorous flying of the aircraft, 5 losses in 15 years suggests excellent safety record.

 

[Ali_Baba]

It wasn't engine failure... It was pilot incompetence

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I think it is more appropriate to call it a mistake and not incompetence.

The display routine has to be modified and the negative G sustained turn needs to be taken out, it is too dangerous and most people wont miss it.

 

[hasssanali8998]

It wasn't engine failure... It was pilot incompetence

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my god !! stop sending this bigots videos pls

 

[hasssanali8998]

Stats are definitely off. J-15 count is definitely hilarious. There are 5 known crashes of JF-17, not 7. But given the rigorous flying of the aircraft, 5 losses in 15 years suggests excellent safety record.

yes in actual service and not like the pavement princess tejas

 

[nang2]

The Indian who made up this data probably didn't know that the J-15 series is a carrier-based aircraft. Moreover, China only has 3 aircraft carriers.

They might just have taken the number from J-5 and then added 1 to the name.

 

[Waz]

Probably, it is assumed that the country/company doing the display has done the due diligence and planned on all the aspects of each one of those.

At Farnborough air show, I remember that no aircraft was allowed to cross over the audience. Beyond that, organisers probably wouldn’t get into minute details as that could prevent the most eye catching events from taking place.

In fact all formation displays can have a mid air anytime. For a solo flight, a bird hit in even in a level flight might turn catastrophic.

Tejas has been doing the same display for many years and has been safe till date.

Yes, it's even more strict at RIAT and pilots are told to have a minimum floor when they attempt the move. A ground controller is always talking to the pilot from their team as well.
You're right about the other risks as well.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Looks like he conked out as he was sideways and experiencing negative gs as he was pushing forward on the stick ..as he did that he lost consciousness and you can see that in the closeup video and see his hand raise up as he was not conscious….now we know what happened

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pretty much what this former pilot thinks what happened.

RIP

my god !! stop sending this bigots videos pls

he is one racist person I agree. I also shared his video but I know he is a very hateful bigot on his social commentary.

 

[mythbuster]

It wasn't engine failure... It was pilot incompetence

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One shall not call it pilot's incompetence , only exceptionally good pilots will dare to attempt something like this.....pilot error is the appropriate term.

 

[PakSword]

I think IAF put pressure on the pilot to perform an extremely risky manoeuvre to impress the buyers. Idiots don't know that the buyers nowadays are more interested in BVR capabilities rather than tight turns and dog fights.

 

[RocketLaw]

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Another significant setback for Indian HAL emerged with the quiet collapse of its partnership with the UAE’s EDGE Defence Manufacturing Group.

EDGE had entered a joint collaboration with HAL in 2023 to showcase and market their weapons suite integrated on the Tejas platform. However, at this year’s air show, EDGE declined to display any of its systems, an unmistakable indication that the collaboration has stalled, if not been fully withdrawn.

HAL itself publicly acknowledged that the Tejas Mk1A is still grappling with weapon integration challenges.

 

[Maarkhoor]

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[Ali_Baba]

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Another significant setback for Indian HAL emerged with the quiet collapse of its partnership with the UAE’s EDGE Defence Manufacturing Group.

EDGE had entered a joint collaboration with HAL in 2023 to showcase and market their weapons suite integrated on the Tejas platform. However, at this year’s air show, EDGE declined to display any of its systems, an unmistakable indication that the collaboration has stalled, if not been fully withdrawn.

HAL itself publicly acknowledged that the Tejas Mk1A is still grappling with weapon integration challenges.

The UAE have become such a Beghairat nation in that they offered to sell weapons to India to be integrated onto the Tejas that India could have used against Pakistan. The fact, that at one point that decision took place in the UAE and they thought was the correct thing for them to do in light of "brotherly relations" with Pakistan is totally shameful on the UAE. Can you imagine Türkiye doing this, no, of course not. One more act to add to the Beghairatness of the UAE as a whole, and the executive decision making that is taking place right now.

Hopefully we can now stop hearing about "brotherly relations" between UAE and Pakistan.

Utterly Utterly Utterly shameful act by the UAE .. totally shameful. The fact that this may now "fall apart" is irrelevant.

 

[Waz]

The UAE have become such a Beghairat nation in that they offered to sell weapons to India to be integrated onto the Tejas that India could have used against Pakistan. The fact, that at one point that decision took place in the UAE and they thought was the correct thing for them to do in light of "brotherly relations" with Pakistan is shameful on the UAE. Can you imagine Türkiye doing this, no, of course not.

Hopefully we can now stop hearing about "brotherly relations" between UAE and Pakistan.

Utterly shameful act by the UAE .. totally shameful. The fact that this may now "fall apart" is irrelevant.

Said it from day one they are utter devils, never to be trusted. They locked hands with Israel for the genocide of Palestine and now fund the slaughter in Sudan by the RSF. Horrid nation which should be boycotted on mass. I've never bought anything from them, used their services or gone there in years.

 

[Meengla]

Maybe not even officially, maybe from some media personalities, or other prominent people.... But the fact that the media has made a number of direct accusations knowing this sort of thing will need thorough investigation, isn't it about time?

Discredited analysts like Arnab and General Bakshi from the Indian media need no 'official' response from Pakistan; those 'analysts' constantly bash Pakistan. But unofficially, prominent Pakistani media personalities have been rubbishing the claims like it was America or Pakistan who caused this crash. And that response is enough at this point.

I think IAF put pressure on the pilot to perform an extremely risky manoeuvre to impress the buyers. Idiots don't know that the buyers nowadays are more interested in BVR capabilities rather than tight turns and dog fights.

Right. Remember the scene from 'Raiders of the Lost Arc' (?) where the guy was IMPRESSIVELY displaying his sword skills but was shot dead from a distance using a gun? LOL!