JF-17 PFX program

[HRK]

The reporter in this video says "Kuch logon ne isko over exaggerate bhi kar dia." and then goes on to exaggerate the details himself like he sits daily with PAC R&D PFX project boys. He calls the aircraft as "Super Stealth 5th Generation" which is named as JF-17 Block 4 in the title of the video and also calls it PFX Alpha or JF-17 T. The reason he called it T is because according to him Turkish company ASELSAN also has a stake in it in terms with radar. He goes on to further claim that according to his "sources" JF-17 Block 4 will have Chinese WS-15 engine which is going to be a change from previously planned WS-13. He further claims that this jet will carry BVR missiles greater in range than PL-15 and says its stealth capabilities will be better than "F-16". He gives final verdict that this plane will be flying by PAF soon in 2027 and this plane already has export customers ready to buy it.

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Bhai this reporter is a clown just watch some of his video ..... I don't know his background but now a day he is regularly doing videos for Channel 24 and City 41 on the topic of defence.

Keep in mind these channels are owned by Federal Minister of Interior Moshin Naqvi.

So the chances are may be he is deliberately fed wrong information by the officials might be with the intentions of creating confusion by misinformation.

 

[hasssanali8998]

I once visited the JF-17 project office and interviewed Chief Project Director Air Marshal Shahid Lateef many moons ago. The JF-17 program faced many challenges, but the PAF, as the primary stakeholder, was always pragmatic. Problem: no Western avionics suite was available, and the Chinese suite was not advanced enough. Solution: decouple avionics from airframe development and revisit later. After the first prototype flew, PAF tapped into the J-10 avionics suite that China opened up to them. This also kept costs low. From the start, PAF wanted HMD and air-to-air refueling but pushed them to later iterations to avoid delays (but ensured the switching/cabling/pipes were there). There are many such examples. In the end, the real difference between PAF and IAF was ownership. PAF took ownership of the project, while IAF waited for a product to be handed to them. Yes, PAF had CATIC with all the needed expertise, but IAF also had ADA/DRDO/HAL

source from twitter

 

[Tremain]

im currently there right now

Say hi to Walt Disney and Howard Hughes if you see them. Both are said to be frozen in some garage in Area 51.

 

[Ak01]

Say hi to Walt Disney and Howard Hughes if you see them. Both are said to be frozen in some garage in Area 51.

I can’t find them, I’m here with Tupac, Hitler, and Zia ul haq they told me Argentina is lovely this time of year.

 

[Ali Yusuf]

I can’t find them, I’m here with Tupac, Hitler, and Zia ul haq they told me Argentina is lovely this time of year.

In my opinion, any place would be great for you, considering your current situation.

 

[MirageV3ff]

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Came across this post and found it interesting. China's been working on a S/VTOL platform. Unless PFX is still in the designing stage (which I'm probably betting it is) I think Pakistan should look take a look at this concept. Considering how our bases were hit and there is an issue of LMs flying close to AFBs where they can potentially ground aircraft. This concept at the very least could give Pakistan a capability to launch its fighters without needing a prepared runway. PAF could leverage motorways or even make shift runways

 

[Pioneer]

Attaining basic Engine from China , TOT should be priority which can serve the JF17 and future needs, 100% local production

After operating JF17 for 15+ years , we should be building own Engines at least for JF17 Program and J10C

The Engine for J35 could be discussed for rebuilding setup in future

As for retirement of F7 and Mirage , combination of J10C and J35 is no brainier. KAAN platform is also promising option

We need to go beyond old excuse , we lack "something" , China is just across the border , and we have good ties with China
Unsure why there is lack of expediting the attainment of basic Engine (Licence Production , we are flying 150+ units so discussion of TOT should be top on agenda)

Attaining the full production setup for J10C could replace the Mirage rebuild factory 100% , a decent 4th Generation craft

It's unlikely. China has recently been very suspicious of Pakistan's free provision of Chinese technology to Türkiye. So. Pakistan is unlikely to have access to China's latest technology.

The internal news in China is. Kaan received a large amount of JF-17 technology. But these technologies come from China.

China maintains considerable vigilance against Pakistan and Türkiye.

 

[Pioneer]

Prevent Türkiye from acquiring technology through Pakistan. China has installed anti tamper electronic seals on a new batch of J-10CE engines. Remove the engine without authorization. It will trigger an automatic alarm lock.

The new J-10CE maintenance and diagnostic system is directly linked to Beijing Cloud. Generate two copies of each maintenance report. One for China and one for Pakistan.

Even when replacing hydraulic valves and screws. Beijing will also receive system reports.

Lock the J-10CE.

 

[Pioneer]

There are two reports for the maintenance diagnostic system. Simplified version report to Pakistan. Complete report to China. Technical isolation... Do Pakistani friends know why Chinese do this?

 

[Merzifonlu]

The internal news in China is. Kaan received a large amount of JF-17 technology. But these technologies come from China.

If you're taking these fantasies seriously, I suggest you get your sanity checked. Why would Turkey do this when the JF17 isn't technologically superior to the F16 in any respect, and Türkiye already has access to F16s? And I haven't even counted Türkiye's access to the Eurofighter and the production of the F35's center fuselage section.

Türkiye doesn't need to learn anything from anyone about aircraft production. If we encounter a technical problem, we'll solve it ourselves.

 

[Pioneer]

If you're taking these fantasies seriously, I suggest you get your sanity checked. Why would Turkey do this when the JF17 isn't technologically superior to the F16 in any respect, and Türkiye already has access to F16s? And I haven't even counted Türkiye's access to the Eurofighter and the production of the F35's center fuselage section.

So. We are all pleased that J-10CE has been equipped with a positioning alarm lock.

 

[Pioneer]

January 2025. Türkiye and Pakistan jointly produce JF-17 in Kamla. Türkiye can make KAAN. Why collaborate with Pakistan to produce JF-17? What are they looking for?

 

[Merzifonlu]

So. We are all pleased that J-10CE has been equipped with a positioning alarm lock.

We have absolutely nothing to learn from the J10CE engine. We were already producing everything except the hot sector of the F110 engine. We know from the TF10000 engine that we can also produce the hot sector of F110 engine.

China is truly ahead of us in chip production. This is because our resources are limited and we must develop each critical military technology sequentially. At this point, we cannot allocate resources to the chip sector until the engine file is closed.

 

[Merzifonlu]

January 2025. Türkiye and Pakistan jointly produce JF-17 in Kamla. Türkiye can make KAAN. Why collaborate with Pakistan to produce JF-17? What are they looking for?

Good questions. You should ask Pakistanis.

 

[Pioneer]

We have absolutely nothing to learn from the J10CE engine. We were already producing everything except the hot sector of the F110 engine. We know from the TF10000 engine that we can also produce the hot sector of F110 engine.

China is truly ahead of us in chip production. This is because our resources are limited and we must develop each critical military technology sequentially. At this point, we cannot allocate resources to the chip sector until the engine file is closed.

Very good. I wish Türkiye Pakistan cooperation success here.