JF-17 PFX program

[Pioneer]

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Ankara taps Pakistan's China ties in search of war tech: report - Turkish Minute

Turkey's push to manufacture warplanes and missiles with Pakistan can be a hookup that could also give it access to war technology from China, Bloomberg reported on Tuesday.

turkishminute.com

Turkey to expand military cooperation with Pakistan, for coveted Chinese military technology

* Turkey has been reportedly pushing to co-manufacture warplanes and missiles in Pakistan, which could potentially grant it access to coveted military technology from China.

www.brecorder.com

Bloomberg: Turkey widens war tech hunt by tapping Pakistan’s China ties - ProtoThema English

Turkey wants to produce fighter jets & missiles with Pakistan which uses China's designs

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Turkey wants to tie-up with Pakistan to make fighter jets, missiles & access Chinese tech

Turkey sees Pakistan as a strategic ally & potential partner in building its Siper long-range missile-defence project and TF-X fighter jet.

theprint.in

 

[Pakistanithinktank]

Block III+ Is basically the capabilities within the J-10C, but to push the plane to its limits; a liquid cooled GaN of 1000+ T/R modules on a swashplate. An IRST, an internal AESA jammer, a towed decoy, an upgraded datalink, RAM coating, an APU and OBOGS to allow more remote operations in dispersal to motorway operations, and retractable IFR probe to improve RCS signature.

It’s like building a new plane. All of those upgrades might be possible in the next block.

Pakistan’s air force has been steadily upgrading its fleet to keep pace with modern threats. The JF‑17 Block III was a big step forward, an affordable, locally produced, and equipped with advanced radar and weapons. But as a lightweight fighter, it couldn’t match the range or power of heavier jets.

That’s why Pakistan bought J‑10C, a more capable aircraft with stronger radar and better combat performance. Even so, the J‑10C isn’t stealthy and has its own limits.

To prepare for the future, Pakistan is now moving toward fifth generation fighters. The J‑35 offers stealth and advanced sensors, while participation in Turkey’s KAAN project shows Pakistan’s intent to eventually build its own cutting edge jets.

Each step from JF‑17, J‑10C, J‑35, and KAAN reflects Pakistan’s strategy of filling gaps, learning from limitations, and building toward independence in advanced fighter production.

 

[Michael]

It’s like building a new plane. All of those upgrades might be possible in the next block.

Pakistan’s air force has been steadily upgrading its fleet to keep pace with modern threats. The JF‑17 Block III was a big step forward, an affordable, locally produced, and equipped with advanced radar and weapons. But as a lightweight fighter, it couldn’t match the range or power of heavier jets.

That’s why Pakistan bought J‑10C, a more capable aircraft with stronger radar and better combat performance. Even so, the J‑10C isn’t stealthy and has its own limits.

To prepare for the future, Pakistan is now moving toward fifth generation fighters. The J‑35 offers stealth and advanced sensors, while participation in Turkey’s KAAN project shows Pakistan’s intent to eventually build its own cutting edge jets.

Each step from JF‑17, J‑10C, J‑35, and KAAN reflects Pakistan’s strategy of filling gaps, learning from limitations, and building toward independence in advanced fighter production.

A complete fighter jet consists of the airframe platform, subsystems, and supporting environment.
The collaboration between PAC and CAC was actually focused on the JF-17's airframe platform and integration capabilities.

We generally believe that the JF-17 Block III has already pushed the JF-17 airframe platform to its limits. There is very little room for further upgrades.

Therefore, continuing to discuss the future of the JF-17 doesn't have much meaning.

Pakistan could renegotiate with AVIC to jointly develop a new airframe platform. Or, it could introduce a Chinese airframe platform for secondary development. This platform should at least have the potential to support continuous development for about 30 years. Of course, Pakistan can choose other partners instead of AVIC; this is entirely up to Pakistan.

Pakistan should abandon further development of the existing JF-17 airframe platform and focus on a new generation fighter platform. Whether it retains the "JF-17" name is not important.

 

[Pakistanithinktank]

A complete fighter jet consists of the airframe platform, subsystems, and supporting environment.
The collaboration between PAC and CAC was actually focused on the JF-17's airframe platform and integration capabilities.

We generally believe that the JF-17 Block III has already pushed the JF-17 airframe platform to its limits. There is very little room for further upgrades.

Therefore, continuing to discuss the future of the JF-17 doesn't have much meaning.

Pakistan could renegotiate with AVIC to jointly develop a new airframe platform. Or, it could introduce a Chinese airframe platform for secondary development. This platform should at least have the potential to support continuous development for about 30 years. Of course, Pakistan can choose other partners instead of AVIC; this is entirely up to Pakistan.

Pakistan should abandon further development of the existing JF-17 airframe platform and focus on a new generation fighter platform. Whether it retains the "JF-17" name is not important.

This already in work and that’s what I tried to explain by pointing out the limitation of platforms.

 

[Deino]

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Ankara taps Pakistan's China ties in search of war tech: report - Turkish Minute

Turkey's push to manufacture warplanes and missiles with Pakistan can be a hookup that could also give it access to war technology from China, Bloomberg reported on Tuesday.

turkishminute.com

Turkey to expand military cooperation with Pakistan, for coveted Chinese military technology

* Turkey has been reportedly pushing to co-manufacture warplanes and missiles in Pakistan, which could potentially grant it access to coveted military technology from China.

www.brecorder.com

Bloomberg: Turkey widens war tech hunt by tapping Pakistan’s China ties - ProtoThema English

Turkey wants to produce fighter jets & missiles with Pakistan which uses China's designs

en.protothema.gr

Redirect Notice

Turkey wants to tie-up with Pakistan to make fighter jets, missiles & access Chinese tech

Turkey sees Pakistan as a strategic ally & potential partner in building its Siper long-range missile-defence project and TF-X fighter jet.

theprint.in

And you think of these is a credible source? And even more all speak of PLANS and none of them says anything about it is already happening!

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

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Ankara taps Pakistan's China ties in search of war tech: report - Turkish Minute

Turkey's push to manufacture warplanes and missiles with Pakistan can be a hookup that could also give it access to war technology from China, Bloomberg reported on Tuesday.

turkishminute.com

Turkey to expand military cooperation with Pakistan, for coveted Chinese military technology

* Turkey has been reportedly pushing to co-manufacture warplanes and missiles in Pakistan, which could potentially grant it access to coveted military technology from China.

www.brecorder.com

Bloomberg: Turkey widens war tech hunt by tapping Pakistan’s China ties - ProtoThema English

Turkey wants to produce fighter jets & missiles with Pakistan which uses China's designs

en.protothema.gr

Redirect Notice

Turkey wants to tie-up with Pakistan to make fighter jets, missiles & access Chinese tech

Turkey sees Pakistan as a strategic ally & potential partner in building its Siper long-range missile-defence project and TF-X fighter jet.

theprint.in

Again you bring crap and junk sources, not reliable at all , give us sources from respectable defense sites like Janes defense weekly/ Flight Global/Aviation week etc etc

 

[Ibbi32]

Guys he said kamla not kamra. Learn the difference

 

[Corax]

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Ankara taps Pakistan's China ties in search of war tech: report - Turkish Minute

Turkey's push to manufacture warplanes and missiles with Pakistan can be a hookup that could also give it access to war technology from China, Bloomberg reported on Tuesday.

turkishminute.com

Turkey to expand military cooperation with Pakistan, for coveted Chinese military technology

* Turkey has been reportedly pushing to co-manufacture warplanes and missiles in Pakistan, which could potentially grant it access to coveted military technology from China.

www.brecorder.com

Bloomberg: Turkey widens war tech hunt by tapping Pakistan’s China ties - ProtoThema English

Turkey wants to produce fighter jets & missiles with Pakistan which uses China's designs

en.protothema.gr

Redirect Notice

Turkey wants to tie-up with Pakistan to make fighter jets, missiles & access Chinese tech

Turkey sees Pakistan as a strategic ally & potential partner in building its Siper long-range missile-defence project and TF-X fighter jet.

theprint.in

A lot of this has to do with potential workshare on the TFX, but even that is highly speculative, and there's no firm details as far as I'm aware. But where in any of this does it say that Türkiye and Pakistan jointly produce the JF17 in Kamra? That was what you claimed.

 

[Pioneer]

I believe many people have seen it. Okay. Now forget about it.

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

I believe many people have seen it. Okay. Now forget about it.

where your source/ backup that we are producing JF17 with Türkiye ,are you 4 year old toddler who knows nothing about JF-17 Project? why you avoiding to give me an answer my question?

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

Bro, please calm down. I won't answer your question. Just because I completely look down on you.

because you won't have any solid and hard evidence that we producing JF-17 with Türkiye, even 4 year old in Pakistan knows that we are producing JF-17 with China not with Türkiye

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

I believe many people have seen it. Okay. Now forget about it.

so, don bring conspiracy theories that Turkey and Pakistan are suspected to stealing Chinese sensitive military tech

 

[Pioneer]

What should I do? I have been looking down on him since 2017 until now.

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

What should I do? I have been looking down on him since 2017 until now.

what you're new to this forum, I'm here on PDF (defunct older PDF) since 2011, I don't know who you're but I know one thing that you're baseless troll and have a senseless rants about JF-17 program

 

[Deino]

Guys he said kamla not kamra. Learn the difference

The point is still, there IS - present tense - NO co-production of JF-17 with any Turkish company regardless its Kamla or Kamra!

It's pure BS! He's just spreading lies and is not even presenting true sources.