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Do you think PTI has a future without Imran Khan?

  • Yes

    Votes: 22 19.6%
  • No

    Votes: 80 71.4%
  • Only if senior leadership is released

    Votes: 10 8.9%

  • Total voters
    112
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So the Judiciary was right when they sacked the PPP Prime Ministers, jailed the PMLN and PPP leaderships, helped topple their govt to Imran's benefits and wrong when Imran is in the dock??

People who claim to be Pti followers keep on denying alot of facts. I personally spoke to Dr Tahir ul Qadri party leaders and they didnt hide the fact that some people in the establishment are encouraging them to start political movement/March etc to challenge Pmln PPP nexus, their intention was to bring a 3rd party to challenge PPP/Pmln, to bring reforms and the rest. People are too biased, they ignore Dr tahir ul qadri and his movement, his lectures calling for reforms, to upgrade the state and the rest. Then Imran Khan Pti joined the same movement, but ofcourse Imran Khan took the torch. Imran Khan himself mentioned during long march that the boots are coming, he talked about judiciary plan to remove Nawaz Sharif, back then Nawaz Sharif was terrorist supporter just like how Imran Khan is right now lol.

People should admit they made mistake to take establishment support to take down Nawaz Sharif and then show eyes to the same establishment, then turn against them and do personal attacks and finger pointing, the establishment then used all force necessary to take the upper hand. Let's admit some facts and mistakes, then move forward.
 
Bhai protestors ko sar main goli maar detay hain 😂
ofc the new cope , imagine if French in 1775 had this thinking ,only Pakistanis can say to you bhai we cant free ourself from oppression we are afraid .
most guys here live abroad and want the peasant Pakistanis to do the hard work :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
 
I have mentioned this in my previous post, if the Pakistan military/security apparatus is such a cancer for the nation; it is very easy for 240 million Pakistanis to overthrow 2 million security apparatus people. It is time you move past the Indian talking man, and see the military is not the bogeyman you think it is. It has done wrong yes, but there are many complicit parties.
Problem is the gun pointed at the other constitutional institutions. Anyway, we can agree to disagree.
 
IK at this point is a liability to Pakistan, he should move to Afghanistan, I bet Afghan Taliban will offer him a position in their Shura or whatever these barbaric criminals are calling themselves.

I think Imran will fit right in Afghanistan.
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ofc the new cope , imagine if French in 1775 had this thinking ,only Pakistanis can say to you bhai we cant free ourself from oppression we are afraid .
most guys here live abroad and want the peasant Pakistanis to do the hard work :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Who said I want protestors to go out and be killed? I want protestors to go out of the Pak sarzameez.

Yeh watan tumhara hai... Hum hain khuwa ma khuwah iss main.. 😂
 
OBL was living in Abbottabad before even ik had zero seats in the parliament. Pakistan played double role in the war on terror.. everyone knows it. When the US decided to kill OBL, they didn't trust Pakistan due to this very reason. Care to shed some light on the U turn in Pakistani policy?
How conveniently you ignored the rest of my post; but let me answer your question first.

You are assuming that the Pakistani military and intelligence hosted him without the knowledge of the civilian government.

Btw, if you go by the US government statements at the time (this was a time they were not afraid to criticize Pakistan openly and name call them), they saw no complicity of any Pakistani state institution in Abbottabad.

Also about the war on terror, Pakistan has operated a hybrid model throughout most of its history, with the only exceptions being the dictatorships of Zia, and early years of Musharraf.

So if you are saying Pakistan played a double game in the WOT (which they did not, and I can debate that, but this is not the thread for it), then the civilian government were equally complicit.
 
Now you answer my question; is it suitable for Imran Khan to gaslight victims of terrorism, saying he won’t be blackmailed into visiting them; whereas speaking on behalf of TTP terrorists?
 
I was wondering why ISPR reacted that way, then read that moronic tweet, couldn't blame them.....
 
Yes, and I do note they found what they were led towards and followed willingly. Problem solved. :D

"Shahadat, Shahadat, Shahadat!". [Martyrdom]. Imran's sister chanting in a group!
Stop saying these things again and again, please! My libations are too precious to cough out from laughing!
 
OBL was living in Abbottabad before even ik had zero seats in the parliament. Pakistan played double role in the war on terror.. everyone knows it. When the US decided to kill OBL, they didn't trust Pakistan due to this very reason. Care to shed some light on the U turn in Pakistani policy?
Learn few things before you make sweeping statements without any legs ......what prove do you have that Pak establishment was sheltering OBL.... If the Americans have given a clean chit to Pakistani establishment on this issue what ulterior motives do you have to bring it up ? .....as far as TTA is concerned Pakistan made it categorically clear to the Americans ( right from the beginning ) that it will not fight against them.....why was TTA never declared a terrorist organisation by the USA ?..... what's this think-tank crap bestowed upon every Tom , dick and Harry ?
 
"Shahadat, Shahadat, Shahadat!". [Martyrdom]. Imran's sister chanting in a group!
Stop saying these things again and again, please! My libations are too precious to cough out from laughing!

I only speak the truth. What I have said before about helping with such noble wishes still applies.

Cheers! :D
 
He has suddenly been very vocal of the military’s faults/“blunders” since independence in 1947 post NCM, but was perfectly happy to stay on their good side when it suited him getting into power.
Politics is the art of what is possible and there are various paths to power. Once you gain this power then you use it.

Hence I dont see the problem with the path Imran Khan took, he is a politician. But why are jernails doing politics ?
 
How conveniently you ignored the rest of my post; but let me answer your question first.

You are assuming that the Pakistani military and intelligence hosted him without the knowledge of the civilian government.

Btw, if you go by the US government statements at the time (this was a time they were not afraid to criticize Pakistan openly and name call them), they saw no complicity of any Pakistani state institution in Abbottabad.

Also about the war on terror, Pakistan has operated a hybrid model throughout most of its history, with the only exceptions being the dictatorships of Zia, and early years of Musharraf.

So if you are saying Pakistan played a double game in the WOT (which they did not, and I can debate that, but this is not the thread for it), then the civilian government were equally complicit.
these guys literally bring what Indians say to us as proof , the isi agent that made the ik persona needs to be used more , man what a job he did . made people so cultish they will stop at nothing , they will sacrifice their fathers and mothers for ik
 
Politics is the art of what is possible and there are various paths to power. Once you gain this power then you use it.

Hence I dont see the problem with the path Imran Khan took, he is a politician
yes but hes is supposed to be the next quad according to you guys , and i love hoiw you deflected the question

what i mean is ik is the same as every other Pakistani politician , there was time when nawazoo also stood up to military . nothing different about him
 
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