Russia - Ukraine war part ll. News and Discussions

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There is no response. Ukraine has been conducting a consistent strike campaign against Russian oil assets since August.

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Dec 9, 2025

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has stated that his country is ready for an energy truce if Russia is willing to do so, Zelenskyy said. This was reported by the publication Strana.
What happened? Is someone saying that Ukraine is winning? It hasn't even been a year!

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[ejaz007]

UK Officially Confirms First Military Casualty in Ukraine​

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A member of the UK armed forces died as a result of a "tragic accident" on Tuesday morning while overseeing the testing of a new defensive capability in Ukraine, the UK Defense Ministry said.
The UK Ministry of Defense reported that Lance Corporal George Hooley, a 28-year-old paratrooper, died while observing the Ukrainian military test a new weapon.
"It is with deep regret that we must announce that a member of the UK Armed Forces died in Ukraine this morning, Tuesday 9 December. He was injured in a tragic accident whilst observing Ukrainian forces test a new defensive capability, away from the front lines. The family has been notified and our thoughts are with them at this sad and difficult time," the ministry said in a statement.

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UK Defense Secretary John Healey offered condolences to the family of the deceased.

"Devastated by the death of a UK service person in Ukraine. My thoughts are with their family, friends and colleagues as they grieve for a loved one. Our hearts go out to them," Healey wrote on X.
The Russian Defense Ministry has repeatedly accused Kiev of using foreign fighters as "cannon fodder," warning that the Russian military will continue striking mercenary troops across Ukraine.

UK Officially Confirms First Military Casualty in Ukraine

A member of the UK armed forces died as a result of a "tragic accident" on Tuesday morning while overseeing the testing of a new defensive capability in Ukraine, the UK Defense Ministry said.

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[Soldier35]

The Ukrainian Navy has released footage of an attack by Ukrainian Sea Baby naval drones on the Dashan tanker. The vessel was sailing under the Comoros Islands flag, heading for Novorossiysk. According to the Ukrainian side, the tanker belongs to Russia's "shadow fleet." It is worth noting that a British RC-135W reconnaissance aircraft was operating over the western Black Sea at the time of the attack. Immediately after the attack, the aircraft headed toward the tanker.
As a result of the attack, the tanker suffered critical damage and is presumably disabled. This is the fourth tanker attacked by Ukrainian naval drones.

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[Soldier35]

Footage of the interception of a heavy Ukrainian E-300 Enterprise UAV by a Russian FPV interceptor drone of an unknown model. The Ukrainian E-300 Enterprise kamikaze UAV is based on a light aircraft and is designed to strike targets at ranges of up to 3,100 km, with a flight time of up to 23 hours. The drone's payload capacity is up to 300 kg. The E-300 Enterprise drone costs up to $450,000. The video was filmed near the village of Rodynske in the Donbas.

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[Yommie]

Seversk has fallen and Ukraine will never get it back.

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[Yommie]

The planes wont work over donbas sector but in kherson and parts of crimea the iads is not as dense as the eastern contested regions. They dont need awacs flying in Ukraine airspace just like global hawk flying over black sea providing target data , an awacs securely flying in Romania can provide target aircraft data for Ukranian planes. Flying low negates iads unless it is very close range. Only when targeting Su35s the planes F16 or others by using data-link from Romanian awacs would need to get into high altitude launch the a2a missile and hold the lock on the target until missile seeker activates and then return again back to low altitude. It will be hard for iads to track low flying aircraft and only at altitude for a short period of time while they are launching a2a missiles they can be targeted by iads. But I agree it will take time to modify-upgrade planes to work with awacs flying in a neighboring country and it will only work in certain sectors like Kherson. Russian usage of awacs is also limited now compared to the beginning of the war this will not work when both sides are using awacs to track low-high flying targets.

R-77M has range 200 km and can shoot down AWAC.

 

[vizier]

R-77M has range 200 km and can shoot down AWAC.

Yes and there are missiles like R37 that is more suitable to hunt down awacs. But the problem here is that in this threat scenario awacs wont be given to Ukraine or flying in Ukranian airspace. It will fly over Romania or over black sea with fighter escorts providing data to Ukraine like global hawk. First reason is that it will be very difficult to prove that awacs has a data link to Ukranian fighter planes and the second reason is that I mentioned before Russia does not want a direct conflict escalation with nato. So it wont happen just like nothing happens after Polands long time support. It can also happen after several years and conflict drags on with a more hawkish Usa president against Russia. You cannot be sure but you have to take all the risks into consideration.

Both sides Ukraine and Russia will lose planes in that scenario but for Russia in war condition the replacement would be difficult for fighter aircraft. In Donbas geography Russia has advantage. In Kherson and Crimea Ukraine has advantage being close to nato support. Making a good risk assessment before the war could have averted thousands of tank losses for Russia. Continuing the war would also result in more Russian aircraft losses as Ukraine adapts to the situation and uses proximity-nato support on close areas like Kherson and Crimea.

The threat of Ukraine getting more fighter planes is greater than Ukraine holding %10 donbass. This threat can be negated with a ceasefire that puts a limit on Ukraine purchasing what kind of arms from Eu or others.

 

[vizier]

Bridgehead with what strength?

The Russians would still use artillery, and the threat of drones would still exist, not only for reconnaissance but also for attack—a situation to which Ukraine, even with air superiority, would not be able to respond adequately.

You're just raising hypotheses, all without the slightest real basis in the situation of the Ukrainian army. They're just assumptions upon assumptions.

Better risk assessment before the conflict could have averted many losses from the Russian side especially armor losses. Both sides show each other as in the worse situation I dont believe them both although it boosts morale on each side.

 

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ANY WAR IS UNPREDICTABLE IN ITS OUTCOME. This has always been the case. Even when fighting against clearly weaker opponents. Remember the US troop deployment in Afghanistan. At first, the prospects were rosy — everything was on the Americans' side (they had the most modern weapons, equipment, and technology), but it ended in a shameful withdrawal of troops. Well, what was the risk assessment, and what can we say about it?
Remember Israel's attack on Iran. and the same thing happened — weapons, equipment, the most modern aircraft and missiles, but they got beaten. So they had to complain to the Americans — help us deal with Iran. And risk assessments...
Russia has its own tactics and strategy. Maybe its risk assessment is not so powerful, but even without it, it wins. Although the start of the special military operation was botched. And Russia is fighting the most advanced enemy - NATO, led by the US. Although many are afraid to admit it. And risk assessment did not help NATO. Well, they have their own tactics and strategy. And it is precisely the unpredictability that scares them from sending their troops to Ukraine and starting a war against Russia.

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[Yommie]

Yes and there are missiles like R37 that is more suitable to hunt down awacs. But the problem here is that in this threat scenario awacs wont be given to Ukraine or flying in Ukranian airspace. It will fly over Romania or over black sea with fighter escorts providing data to Ukraine like global hawk. First reason is that it will be very difficult to prove that awacs has a data link to Ukranian fighter planes and the second reason is that I mentioned before Russia does not want a direct conflict escalation with nato. So it wont happen just like nothing happens after Polands long time support. It can also happen after several years and conflict drags on with a more hawkish Usa president against Russia. You cannot be sure but you have to take all the risks into consideration.

Both sides Ukraine and Russia will lose planes in that scenario but for Russia in war condition the replacement would be difficult for fighter aircraft. In Donbas geography Russia has advantage. In Kherson and Crimea Ukraine has advantage being close to nato support. Making a good risk assessment before the war could have averted thousands of tank losses for Russia. Continuing the war would also result in more Russian aircraft losses as Ukraine adapts to the situation and uses proximity-nato support on close areas like Kherson and Crimea.

The threat of Ukraine getting more fighter planes is greater than Ukraine holding %10 donbass. This threat can be negated with a ceasefire that puts a limit on Ukraine purchasing what kind of arms from Eu or others.

Depends. If AWAC is used to guide air to air missiles for Ukraine's F-16 then Russia will for sure shoot down AWAC.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Russia can use a tactical nuke over Kiev and call it a day.

What's the West gonna do about it... Other than what they have already done to date....?

Brilliant post.

Well done.

 

[Soldier35]

A Ukrainian serviceman shared rare footage, filmed from the ground, of the moment a Russian FAB-3000 aerial bomb struck the city of Seversk in Donbas. The video demonstrates the scale of the FAB-3000 bomb's explosion.

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The Ukrainians have cleared northern Kupyansk

 

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RU POV: Reports from the ground indicate that armed resistance of the AFU garrison in Myrnohrad has ceased - Kalibrated_Maps​

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