Gunman opens fire at crowded Australia beach, people rush for shelter

I am not sure we are on the same page, Australia and Australians went against the narrative and supported the Palestinians cause, till today....yes as you said they were free, and they chose Palestine, until today..

Why In Australia!
What's their record for un voting?
 
Yes they don't like Israel.

What are you trying to say? You're a Indian troll trying to draw some connection to Palestine.
I am Indian swedish American, none of that matters for this discussions purpose.

I did not draw any connection, the two murderers claiming to represent Palestinians matter, focus on that.

Nothing of what I could have said or done could hurt the Palestine cause matters compared to these two..
 
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NSW Police conference 1 hour ago

There were 6 firearms used in the shooting. The 50-year-old father is a licensed firearms owner (the person who was disarmed), and there is no reason to suspect that there were a third person was involved.

My honest take on the shooting.

The duo planned the shooting; they knew the event, they knew the bridge is overlooking the event, they were using a spare weapon layout on that bridge, and they were also using a drop leg bag for ammo storage.

But as far as I'm concerned, these people aren't trained seriously. Maybe there are more relations with any terrorist group, but I doubt they had any external training.
 
The shooter is father and son, so either they are both Pakistani or they are both Algerian
NSW Police Commissioner Mal Lanyon says the older shooter had a gun licence for 10 years.

So far, we know the shooter had six registered firearms.

Mal Lanyon says he won't comment on the reported presence of a black IS group flag at the scene.

"We'll look at the motives behind the attack and that's really as part of the investigation," he says.
 
That is almost done atp, trump and right wing Australia needed a reason, the saner Australians holding this back and supporting Palestine just got punched in the face by two dudes that represent Palestinians, islam, muslims...

Australia will pivot to Israel now and there will be consequences, unless someone has the balls to stand up and distance Palestinians cause from these murderers.

This is the sad reality. Those two vermin terrorists were absolute pieces hot garbage. Not just for murdering civilians in mass gathering during a religious holiday, but also for setting back the Palestinian cause. The global support for Palestine is wide, but this will defintely set it back in the West and marginalize advocacy groups for Palestine.
By how much is impossible to measure.
 
I am Indian swedish American, none of that matters for this discussions purpose.

I did not draw any connection, the two murderers claiming to represent Palestinians matter, focus on that.

Nothing of what I could have said or done could hurt the Palestine cause matters compared to these two..

The people aren't stupid. One incident won't whitewash Israeli genocide against tens of thousands of Palestinians.

There is not even a comparison between Israeli genocide versus Bondi beach incident.
 
That is almost done atp, trump and right wing Australia needed a reason, the saner Australians holding this back and supporting Palestine just got punched in the face by two dudes that represent Palestinians, islam, muslims...

Australia will pivot to Israel now and there will be consequences, unless someone has the balls to stand up and distance Palestinians cause from these murderers.

It really dosent matter.

Israel its allies in the public sphere in Europe and the US will of course use this attack for their own agenda.

In the wider picture, the US is likely to disengage from the ME due to many different reasons. Zionists in the west will of course lament and try all tricks but it wont help against the broader geopolitical changes about to happen the next years and decades.

For Israel, the best thing is to make peace with its neighbors including indigineous population (palestinians) which they have tried to simply murder and evict from their ancestral land for almost a century.
 
This is the sad reality. Those two vermin terrorists were absolute pieces hot garbage. Not just for murdering civilians in mass gathering during a religious holiday, but also for setting back the Palestinian cause. The global support for Palestine is wide, but this will defintely set it back in the West and marginalize advocacy groups for Palestine.
By how much is impossible to measure.

It won't. Israel is grasping at straws. What Israel has done in Gaza and Palestinian territories is of an entirely different magnitude. You cannot compare an incident at a beach with a 2 years of full massacre and destruction.
 
NSW Police conference 1 hour ago

There were 6 firearms used in the shooting. The 50-year-old father is a licensed firearms owner (the person who was disarmed), and there is no reason to suspect that there were a third person was involved.

My honest take on the shooting.

The duo planned the shooting; they knew the event, they knew the bridge is overlooking the event, they were using a spare weapon layout on that bridge, and they were also using a drop leg bag for ammo storage.

But as far as I'm concerned, these people aren't trained seriously. Maybe there are more relations with any terrorist group, but I doubt they had any external training.
Except....I don't see how the IED in the car fits in. There's something really odd there.
 
how bloody smooth the action on the rifle bolt was by him . The gunman had huge amount of skill involved in making the shots. This guy was on another level he’s definitely had plenty of experience with rifle shooting . Christ he was so calm and collective. Unfortunately Answer too your question on the Modern day Afghans, no they are definitely not the same Afghans who came to outback in 1800s, Because of Russian invasion 1979 , it’s radicalised the entire borderlands full of violent people. Capable of doing all kinds of bad stuff.
I don't think the shooter was trained. Both were sporting guns, and they unloaded around 60-80 rounds, resulting in 16 killed and 40 injured (With a scoped rifle, no less). Anyone could have racked the bolt back like that, I mean, they know how to use a firearm, but probably that's the extent of the training they had, because a lot of mistakes in terms of the shooting and their positioning. Especially shown in the video where the father was disarmed by a civilian.
 
It just might turn the perception in Australia, and it is happening.

A Genocide just happened in Australia on Australians, who do you think they will care about more atp?

A genocide happened in Australia? LOL Are you smoking cow dung?

You still haven't answered the question. Could Indians also be targeted in Australia by Neo Nazis?
 
I do not disagree. Like I keep saying, the attack in Australia is a horrible terrorist attack. I'm just pointing out the Western hypocrisy and our own inferiority complex. Not directed at you or anyone in particular. Just a general societal disposition.
I am just telling you that educating our youth about today's incident and how it can harm Palestinian cause rather than supporting it is not an inferiority complex.

Jihad is not allowed without a Muslim ruler sanctioning it. And Jihad is purely Fee Sabeelillah.

We should condemn today's incident in no uncertain terms so that our youth doesn't get any wrong ideas of getting glorified in a wrong way.
 
The only shining light here is the guy who disarmed one shooter is called Ahmed Ahmed, Egyptian Muslims should be proud tonight of that act of courage 👍
Why should just Egyptian Muslims be proud tonight? He did the right thing ANY Muslim or right minded people would do.
Stop being Indian today. Polluting this thread with crocodile posture and concerns.
No more propagating shit sources too.
First and last warning
 

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