Indian Bondi beach shooters INDIAN nationals/origin as well Fake lies exposed. Lessons to be learnt!

Muji.Iqbal said:
Go to America, and you will hear of school shootings all the time.
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Do you see them travelling to, say, Finland or Oman, shooting random civilians or targeting people purely based on faith?
And honestly, responses like yours from otherwise normal, peaceful Muslims are exactly what ignore the pattern and the deeper issue within islamic societies.
 
Waz said:
This really needs a thread of its own. After more digging around by journalists and smaller news agencies it has been established that the father is an Indian national and his son is of mixed parentage Indian/Italian.

www.thehindu.com

One of the Bondi Beach attackers was an Indian citizen who last visited Hyderabad in 2022: police

Indian national Sajid Akram, involved in Bondi Beach attack, last visited Hyderabad in 2022, say officials.
www.thehindu.com www.thehindu.com

Now a few things we need too take note of us as Pakistanis;

1. The narrative built on social media that the attackers were Pakistani. Hundreds of thousands of Indian social media accounts on X, TikTok, Instagram went into overdrive mode, putting out information that the attackers were Pakistani, and also heaped on even more muck e.g. Pakistan produces terrorists and nothing else. Afghan nationalists accounts, although far fewer abetted this narrative.

Our social media accounts need to combat this and although we have the numbers to match up, we are still not as coordinated as the Indian nationalist accounts. We need to organise better.

2. The acceptance of Indian nationalist lies as facts. News agencies such as ABC literally have amateurs working for them, and took the narrative from social media as fact. Earlier on if you remember Indian posters here had put up snippets of articles referring to the both attackers being of Pakistani origin, and how the father was from Lahore. If you used AI to find the source of such statements it would always turn up Indian social media accounts.

Pakistanis need to contact such organisations and hold them to account for their poor fact checking.

3. The rational Pakistanis who waited for facts. I must say I am proud of you guys, and fortunately for us we made up the majority. Never give in to the popular narrative and wait for more information. Some of our own people were sending our name to the gallows even when nothing was really known. Look at the Indian media accounts, including their national news organisations, more deflection more denial.

These guys defend their stance to the end. Pakistanis need to have a sense of self respect here.

4. How much the Indian government knew. A number of Pakistani posters pointed out that they found the silence of Indian government, even state channels strange. People discussed how something didn't seem right. It was obvious they knew both attackers were of Indian origin and shows their intelligence is very good. Pakistani government officials couldn't even come out with a response and were left wondering if the dude actually did come from Lahore.

Never underestimate India, they know more than you think.
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@j_hungary can we ship back the Jews to Poland and Hungary??
 
vasanthm said:
Do you see them travelling to, say, Finland or Oman, shooting random civilians or targeting people purely based on faith?
And honestly, responses like yours from otherwise normal, peaceful Muslims are exactly what ignore the pattern and the deeper issue within islamic societies.
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what a dishonest response, you should be ashamed of yourself. Brenton Harrison Tarrant is an Australian right wing terrorist who travelled to New Zealand and conducted a terrorist mass shooting during friday prayers at a Christchurch mosque killing 51 (including a very dear associate and friend) and injuring 89 others. @vasanthm can you give examples of muslims attacking people of other religion and shouting jai sri ram while doing so? we have an incidence on record of a rabid hindu shouting obscenities and then yelling Allahu Akbar, how do we know if the two indian terrorists in australia were muslims but hindus in disguise.
@Musings @Oscar @Fatman17
This person is deliberately spreading fake news and information.
 
Faithfulguy said:
The goal of almost every Indian is to leave India.
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Hakwa Nadro said:
what a dishonest response, you should be ashamed of yourself. Brenton Harrison Tarrant is an Australian right wing terrorist who travelled to New Zealand and conducted a terrorist mass shooting during friday prayers at a Christchurch mosque killing 51 (including a very dear associate and friend) and injuring 89 others. @vasanthm can you give examples of muslims attacking people of other religion and shouting jai sri ram while doing so? we have an incidence on record of a rabid hindu shouting obscenities and then yelling Allahu Akbar, how do we know if the two indian terrorists in australia were muslims but hindus in disguise.
@Musings @Oscar @Fatman17
This person is deliberately spreading fake news and information.
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Seriously? Lol. If this is where the discussion is headed, feel free to stay in your echo chamber.

The point isn’t that everyone is guilty, it’s that even a century from now, Islamic terrorism will still be a thing, despite being carried out by a small, brainwashed minority. There’s no real, effective self correction mechanism within the community to deal with it honestly and at scale.

Anyway, I’m done with this topic. Anything said beyond this will just be labelled flamebait, so there’s no point continuing.
 
vasanthm said:
Seriously? Lol. If this is where the discussion is headed, feel free to stay in your echo chamber.

The point isn’t that everyone is guilty, it’s that even a century from now, Islamic terrorism will still be a thing, despite being carried out by a small, brainwashed minority. There’s no real, effective self correction mechanism within the community to deal with it honestly and at scale.

Anyway, I’m done with this topic. Anything said beyond this will just be labelled flamebait, so there’s no point continuing.
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no the point is you implied only muslim are doing terrorism but when corrected you want to cop out, the real point is even a century later from now indian fake news manufacturing will be a thing and studied in schools to find out how a nation of 1.5 billion could not produce an honest person.
 
Hakwa Nadro said:
no the point is you implied only muslim are doing terrorism but when corrected you want to cop out, the real point is even a century later from now indian fake news manufacturing will be a thing and studied in schools to find out how a nation of 1.5 billion could not produce an honest person.
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I don't expect Arnab and his style of Indian news to disappear, it will definitely be a thing 😂 anyways enjoy your topic
 
The shooter is from the same terror Group that caused the car bomb blast in Delhi .

India has already detained the entire family of the gunmen.

They are claiming no contact in 27 years
 
samsite84 said:
What has this have to do with a muslim of Indian origin killing Jews in Australia?

The rise of say Hindutva in India is fueling rise in Islamic fundamentalism who are getting revenge in Australia? Ain't too far fetched?
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It has been explained several times by forum goers. You can keep ignoring it if you wish.

Hindutva and "secular" governments alike in India have nurtured and deployed islamist terrorist groups for decades now. From mukthi bahini, through BLA and now the Afghan talibs. Delhi has plenty of experience at deploying such groups, proudly and openly, against its immediate neighbours. It is no surprise that some in this ecosystem will go rogue and commit terror further afield.

Delhi has questions to answer from Canberra. Islamabad should assist.
 
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