Pakistan-Saudi Arabia mutual defense pact: News & Discussion

Yup! Not just Saudi Arabia, now it is ALGERIA

Investigation reveals that Algeria is weighing a break with the UAE over alleged support for separatism

The report shows that Algeria is seriously considering severing diplomatic ties with the United Arab Emirates, with an announcement potentially imminent, according to sources close to the Algerian presidency. The move follows what officials describe as hostile Emirati actions, including alleged backing of separatist elements, most notably the Kabylie self determination movement classified by Algeria as a terrorist organization.

Sources indicate that investigations are underway into the funding of the movement, with attention focused on networks operating through Europe and efforts to secure residency and protection for separatist figures.

Algerian authorities view this as an attempt to internationalize an internal issue and undermine state sovereignty through indirect pressure.

The outcome is a sharp escalation. Algeria no longer frames the issue as a diplomatic dispute but as a national security threat, prompting a reassessment of its relationship with Abu Dhabi. A rupture, if confirmed, would signal a decisive response to what Algiers considers foreign interference and set a powerful precedent in regional politics.

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@_Arabia_

FAFO they think Israel and USA will help them when time comes but it wont , UAE is just a toot to them and when it is used it will be discarded to the wolves
 
This thread's hype was like my dating life, girl look at me and I feel a spark, planned my future with names of the kids, and then she went home with some white bloke. KSA looked at Pakistan with a smile (PACT), Pakistan started dreaming of Air base, new weapons, systems and joint ventures, but then KSA went home with America (the while Bloke).
 
Yup! Not just Saudi Arabia, now it is ALGERIA

Investigation reveals that Algeria is weighing a break with the UAE over alleged support for separatism

The report shows that Algeria is seriously considering severing diplomatic ties with the United Arab Emirates, with an announcement potentially imminent, according to sources close to the Algerian presidency. The move follows what officials describe as hostile Emirati actions, including alleged backing of separatist elements, most notably the Kabylie self determination movement classified by Algeria as a terrorist organization.

Sources indicate that investigations are underway into the funding of the movement, with attention focused on networks operating through Europe and efforts to secure residency and protection for separatist figures.

Algerian authorities view this as an attempt to internationalize an internal issue and undermine state sovereignty through indirect pressure.

The outcome is a sharp escalation. Algeria no longer frames the issue as a diplomatic dispute but as a national security threat, prompting a reassessment of its relationship with Abu Dhabi. A rupture, if confirmed, would signal a decisive response to what Algiers considers foreign interference and set a powerful precedent in regional politics.

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@_Arabia_

Abu Dhabi has turned into an outcast in the Arab world outside of their militia/separatists/secessionists/terrorists allies. Very happy that they were dealt with decisively and swiftly in Yemen. Hopefully Sudan and Somalia will follow suit, as well as their agents in Syria such as the Al-Hijri terrorist.

Old clip from 2024. We don't know the context for obvious reasons but probably not all too friendly.

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The brothers in Algeria will not tolerate any separatist nonsense. The military in Algeria is deeply ingrained into the society and such games are bound to fail. No evidence of any such games either within Algeria.

In an ideal world, we would annex UAE and also do some deporting of the usual suspects. For another time, Insha'Allah.
 
UAE playing an incredibly stupid game here. The Qataris already hate them (and are looking for Doha to take Dubai's crown for being an international mega city), the Iranians (enough said!) and now the Saudis. You look at a map and it is not hard to figure out how easily they can be screwed over
 
Abu Dhabi has turned into an outcast in the Arab world outside of their militia/separatists/secessionists/terrorists allies. Very happy that they were dealt with decisively and swiftly in Yemen. Hopefully Sudan and Somalia will follow suit, as well as their agents in Syria such as the Al-Hijri terrorist.

Old clip from 2024. We don't know the context for obvious reasons but probably not all too friendly.

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The brothers in Algeria will not tolerate any separatist nonsense. The military in Algeria is deeply ingrained into the society and such games are bound to fail. No evidence of any such games either within Algeria.

In an ideal world, we would annex UAE and also do some deporting of the usual suspects. For another time, Insha'Allah.

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What are you even saying?

I have always been against the Ibrahim (as) accords without an independent Palestinian state emerging as a consequence. I have always been against non-state actors within the Arab world (terrorists, militias, proxies, secessionists etc.) wracking havoc. I was always in favor of the unification of Arabia and for greater political, economic, military (in every sphere imaginable basically) unity within the greater Arab world as well.

Being against those aforementioned Abu Dhabi policies in the region does not equal being against our Emirati brothers and sisters.
 
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Pakistan and Saudi Arabia are in talks to convert about $2 billion of Saudi loans into a JF-17 fighter jet deal.
The first source said the total deal was worth $4 billion, with an additional $2 billion to be spent on equipment over and above the loan conversion. @reuters

Saw this while reading Reuters article about bd buying jf17 .
 
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Pakistan and Saudi Arabia are in talks to convert about $2 billion of Saudi loans into a JF-17 fighter jet deal.
The first source said the total deal was worth $4 billion, with an additional $2 billion to be spent on equipment over and above the loan conversion. @reuters

Saw this while reading Reuters article a out bd buying jf17 .
other obvious ifs and buts a side if Saudi does buy jf17 then i think we can say the pact is something and not a negotiation tactic for Saudi . also i think we might have ISI agents in Reuters lmao
 

Exclusive: Pakistan, Saudi in talks on JF-17 jets-for-loans deal, sources say

  • Summary
  • Talks follow landmark mutual defence pact
  • Deal could be worth $4 billion, one source says
  • JF-17 exports key to Pakistan strategy
  • Saudi loan helped avert Pakistan default
ISLAMABAD, Jan 7 - Pakistan and Saudi Arabia are in talks to convert about $2 billion of Saudi loans into a JF-17 fighter jet deal, two Pakistani sources said, deepening military cooperation months after the two nations signed a mutual defence pact last year.
The talks underscore how the two allies are moving to operationalise defence cooperation at a time when Pakistan is facing acute financial strain and Saudi Arabia is reshaping its security partnerships to hedge against uncertainty about U.S. commitments in the Middle East.


The mutual defence deal was signed following Israel's strikes on what it said were Hamas targets in Doha, an attack that shook the Gulf region.
One of the sources said the discussions were limited to the provision of JF-17 Thunder fighter jets, the light combat aircraft jointly developed by Pakistan and China and produced in Pakistan, while the second said the jets were the primary option among others under discussion.
The first source said the total deal was worth $4 billion, with an additional $2 billion to be spent on equipment over and above the loan conversion. The sources close to the military with knowledge of the matter spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak on the deal.

Pakistan's Air Chief Zaheer Ahmed Baber Sidhu was in Saudi Arabia for bilateral talks including on "military cooperation between the two sides", Saudi media outlet SaudiNews50 said on social media platform X on Monday.

TESTED IN COMBAT​

Amir Masood, a retired Air Marshall and analyst, said Pakistan was in talks about or had finalised deals with six countries to provide equipment including JF-17s and electronic systems and weapons systems for the jets. He said those countries included Saudi Arabia, but could not confirm any details about the negotiations.
The JF-17s marketability has been increased because "it is tested and has been used in combat," he told Reuters, adding that it's also cost effective. Pakistan has said the aircraft was deployed during its conflict with India in May last year, the heaviest fighting between the neighbours in decades.


Pakistan's military and finance and defence ministries and military did not immediately respond to requests for comment. Saudi Arabia's government media office also did not respond.
The mutual defence pact, signed in September, committed both sides to treat any aggression against either country as an attack on both, significantly deepening a decades-old security partnership.
Pakistan has long provided military support to the kingdom, including training and advisory deployments, while Saudi Arabia has repeatedly stepped in to support Pakistan financially during periods of economic stress.
In 2018, Riyadh announced a $6 billion support package for Pakistan, including a $3 billion deposit at the central bank and $3 billion worth of oil supplies on deferred payment.
Saudi Arabia has since rolled over deposits multiple times, including a $1.2 billion deferment last year, helping Islamabad stabilise its foreign exchange reserves amid chronic balance-of-payments pressures.


ARMS SALES OUTREACH​

Pakistan has in recent months stepped up defence outreach as it seeks to expand arms exports and monetise its domestic defence industry.
Last month, Islamabad struck a weapons deal worth more than $4 billion with Libya's eastern-based Libyan National Army, officials said, one of the country's largest-ever arms sales, which includes JF-17 fighter jets and training aircraft.
Pakistan has also held talks with Bangladesh on the possible sale of JF-17s, as it widens its arms supply ambitions beyond South Asia and the Middle East.

On Tuesday, Pakistan's defence minister said the success of its weapons industry could transform the country's economic outlook.
"Our aircraft have been tested, and we are receiving so many orders that Pakistan may not need the International Monetary Fund in six months," Khawaja Asif told broadcaster Geo News.
Pakistan is currently under a $7 billion IMF programme, its 24th, which followed a short-term $3 billion deal that helped avert a sovereign default in 2023. It secured the Fund's support after Saudi Arabia and other Gulf allies provided financial and deposit rollovers.
Reporting by Ariba Shahid in Karachi and Saad Sayeed in Islamabad; Editing by Aidan Lewis


ARMS SALES OUTREACH​

Pakistan has in recent months stepped up defence outreach as it seeks to expand arms exports and monetise its domestic defence industry.
Last month, Islamabad struck a weapons deal worth more than $4 billion with Libya's eastern-based Libyan National Army, officials said, one of the country's largest-ever arms sales, which includes JF-17 fighter jets and training aircraft.
Pakistan has also held talks with Bangladesh on the possible sale of JF-17s, as it widens its arms supply ambitions beyond South Asia and the Middle East.

 
Pakistan and Saudi Arabia are in talks to convert about $2 billion of Saudi loans into a JF-17 fighter jet deal.
The first source said the total deal was worth $4 billion, with an additional $2 billion to be spent on equipment over and above the loan conversion. @reuters

Saw this while reading Reuters article a out bd buying jf17 .
Finally, add turkiye in alliance and we are getting backbone of muslim nato foundation.
I think that those planes will not go to saudi itself maybe sudan or yemen as part of military assistance to enhance resilience of those countries and close those chapters of conflicts for longer period of time.
Glad that SA realized that they need to be more proactive and act in decisive matter.
 

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