Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds


Trump said he obliterated Iran's nuclear program, would be a bit silly if he then attacked it again after 6 months


first video is interesting. these guys have no fear of the security forces. yet claim the security forces massacre them with shot guns on sight. doesn't add up.
 
Trump said he obliterated Iran's nuclear program, would be a bit silly if he then attacked it again after 6 months

There’s still sites to be hit. Entrances of Pick Axe mountain, the Project Amad sites in Parchin. Etc etc

first video is interesting. these guys have no fear of the security forces. yet claim the security forces massacre them with shot guns on sight. doesn't add up.

They don’t have fear because they have been emboldened by Trump. Them dying is a benefit to their cause because it forces Trump to enforce his red line. Trump got duped by the same infamous red line that Obama got duped on Assad.

The riots won’t cease because they think this it, the moment of truth and that America will bomb Iran into surrender. There are many middle class people who became poor as the Toman has become worthless. Many youth in the street who are unemployed with no future.

These people have nothing to lose at this point. They will set fire to the country in order to see change. Whether that change is good or bad they don’t care. They are not rationale.
 
Americans only attack when they know for sure that there will be no response from Iran or when they think Iran's response will be symbolic.

Whatever Trump says, US will never attack if they know that Iran's response will be painful to US interests and this time Iran will strike all US bases in the region and disrupt oil supplies from the Gulf.

If Trump doesn't know that Iran is not Venezuela he will be quickly freed from his delusions by harsh Iranian response.

Show me a single example in modern history when threats, sanctions or even air campaign forced someone to capitulate - even Yugoslavia surrendered only because it expected ground invasion and because of pressure from Russia.
 
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Americans only attack when they know for sure that there will be no response from Iran or when they think Iran's response will be symbolic.

There is no chance Iran will do an all out attack on US forces. That will only invite a harsher counter response at time when the regime is in survival mode. You punch America in the mouth, they aren’t going to run away. Not anymore. The time for deterrence was 2020 when they killed Solemani.

What they are likely to do is another symbolic attack and hope Trump moves on to negotiations afterward. Why else would they reach out? The leadership is desperate at this point.

Like the Qajar dynasty they will have to negotiate away the nuclear enrichment program and any long range missiles. If they continue to drag their feet then more protests will show up a year or two from now. Or worse the U.S. establishes a no fly zone over Iran like they did on Iraq in the 90’s and “mows the lawn on Iran” periodically to keep it weak.
 
There is no chance Iran will do an all out attack on US forces. That will only invite a harsher counter response at time when the regime is in survival mode. You punch America in the mouth, they aren’t going to run away. Not anymore. The time for deterrence was 2020 when they killed Solemani.

What they are likely to do is another symbolic attack and hope Trump moves on to negotiations afterward. Why else would they reach out? The leadership is desperate at this point.

Like the Qajar dynasty they will have to negotiate away the nuclear enrichment program and any long range missiles. If they continue to drag their feet then more protests will show up a year or two from now. Or worse the U.S. establishes a no fly zone over Iran like they did on Iraq in the 90’s and “mows the lawn on Iran” periodically to keep it weak.
Who told you that "regime" is in survival mode because of these shitty protests?

Watch videos of these protests and you will see no more than 200-300 roaches in a country of 93mln people and then watch this:



If we judge the probability of the regime falling by the example of Ukraine 2014 where 400.000 people went to the streets in Kiev with its population of 3mln people, then for the Iranian regime to fall there must be 2mln protesters in the 15mln populated Tehran metropolitan area alone.
 
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There is no chance Iran will do an all out attack on US forces. That will only invite a harsher counter response at time when the regime is in survival mode. You punch America in the mouth, they aren’t going to run away. Not anymore. The time for deterrence was 2020 when they killed Solemani.

What they are likely to do is another symbolic attack and hope Trump moves on to negotiations afterward. Why else would they reach out? The leadership is desperate at this point.

Like the Qajar dynasty they will have to negotiate away the nuclear enrichment program and any long range missiles. If they continue to drag their feet then more protests will show up a year or two from now. Or worse the U.S. establishes a no fly zone over Iran like they did on Iraq in the 90’s and “mows the lawn on Iran” periodically to keep it weak.
That's why you flatten all the zio-proxies in the region, namely UAE...Iran should unleash hell on UAE if attacked.
 
That's why you flatten all the zio-proxies in the region, namely UAE...Iran should unleash hell on UAE if attacked.
If any western attack is carried out from their territory against Iran, then total destruction is needed in case of an all out war, including razing tall buildings, energy infrastructure, ports (airports, seaports), water desalination facilities. It should not be a place for tourism or investment for coming 100 years.

They made the attack against Iran possible by demanding our islands and maximum pressure campaign and working with Israel.
 
U.S. government funding runs out on January 30

If Congress does not pass a budget or a short-term extension by then, parts of the government shuts downs starting around midnight.

Right now, Congress and the Trump are trying to make a deal so that does not happen.

If Congress fails to agree by the deadline, any agency that is not funded has to shut down. If that happens, Democrats gain leverage, while Trump and Republicans lose ground.

I speculate that Trump might attack in the coming days to increase pressure on Congress and make a deal before shutdown.


@Emirzad @Persian Gulf
 

This source is credible.....Trump is an idiot. He got bested by the zios again. He has painted himself in to a corner because what he tweeted. 2 days ago the reporter on the Air Force 1 asked him what makes him so sure that Iran will take his threat seriously? It pissed him off, I thought to myself this weak orange fool may now attack Iran just to show this 33 yr female reporter what' what.
With that said, as another fellow PDF member mentioned, it's probably going to be Tomahawks missiles.
I doubt they will send planes over Iran, anytime soon......their forces still need time to evacuate the Gulf.
But he miscalculated again, this time Iran will fire back hard, and it may turn into something much bigger.

"A fool contributes nothing worth hearing and takes offense at everything,"
 
Russia and China aren’t coming to Iran’s help because they are hedging their bets. They know supporting the losing guy (Khamenai) can backfire badly in a post Khamenai Iran when the country gets divided by foreigners once again.

So that’s why in its 11th hour. Iran has no allies coming to its assistance. A disastrous foreign policy that Solemani did his best with. Now without Solemani around, the decline has been fast and abrupt. And the poor showing in the 12 day War has emboldened the U.S. and Iran.

Russia and MAGA are biggest ally, and Putin is going to ditch Iran as a bargaining chip for more gain in Ukraine.

China doesn't have any ally in Iran right now, since President Raisi was one, but he got removed. And China is not going to put any bet on the current regime.
 
This source is credible.....Trump is an idiot. He got bested by the zios again. He has painted himself in to a corner because what he tweeted. 2 days ago the reporter on the Air Force 1 asked him what makes him so sure that Iran will take his threat seriously? It pissed him off, I thought to myself this weak orange fool may now attack Iran just to show this 33 yr female reporter what' what.
With that said, as another fellow PDF member mentioned, it's probably going to be Tomahawks missiles.
I doubt they will send planes over Iran, anytime soon......their forces still need time to evacuate the Gulf.
But he miscalculated again, this time Iran will fire back hard, and it may turn into something much bigger.

"A fool contributes nothing worth hearing and takes offense at everything,"
Trust me, the attack is coming. The Epstein files are WIIIILDDDDD.

The attack is coming.
 

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