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The Indians are aware of the J-35 which will end up in the PAF at some point, so the decision to go for more Rafales is odd, unless of course the Indians are trying to line themselves up for inducting a French version of FCAS as a counter to the J-35 and J-20 down the road. This is the only thing that makes sense to me logically, ie keep Dassault afloat and buy into the Dassault ecosystem fully as pathway for FCAS. The IAF will have as much faith in the AMCA as it did with the Tejas.
There is nothing logical about them buying the Rafales.

First, the pace at which European programs work, there is no FCAS coming even in next 10 years that would be combat ready fully. So india doesn't really have a choice to counter J-35 unless it gets F-35s all of a sudden and USA allows end user permission to use against China/Pakistan.

The only reason they are doubling down on Rafales is because that is the only way they can salvage their own and French Rafales repute after many of them were shot down during May 7th. Not buying Rafales or not buying in large numbers would indicate to the world that they don't know what they are doing and their initial Rafale procurement was a flawed decision in light of rapidly changing combat in South Asia.

The cost they are paying is absolutely absurd and the meagre 30% (if true) localization of parts they are getting for it is outright stupid and of no value in the overall industrial landscape. They have been assembling fighters for almost half a century now.......Rafales will be just another one in that list.

Yes, they do benefit if France shares the complete source codes for all aircraft and engine systems and also decides that India gets to modify the aircraft structurally and avionics wise on its own terms....but again, is the cost of procurement and sustainment really worth it?

Doesn't matter you can afford it or not. Remember there are a lot more ways than one to utilize your money.
 
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J-35flyingorca6 September 202518 August 2025Lied
J-35Zarvan31 December 202517 August 2025Lied
J-35Zarvan31 March 202617 August 2025TBC
J-35Zarvan30 June 202617 August 2025TBC

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J-35Zarvan31 December 202517 August 2025Lied
J-35Zarvan31 March 202617 August 2025TBC
J-35Zarvan30 June 202617 August 2025TBC

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my prediction from 2026 to 2035. in that period j 35 will fly in paf .Haters will say am exagerating
 
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J-35Zarvan31 December 202517 August 2025Lied
J-35Zarvan31 March 202617 August 2025TBC
J-35Zarvan30 June 202617 August 2025TBC
J-35maxpane01 January 203514 January 2026TBC

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J-35flyingorca6 September 202518 August 2025Lied
J-35Zarvan31 December 202517 August 2025Lied
J-35Zarvan31 March 202617 August 2025TBC
J-35Zarvan30 June 202617 August 2025TBC
J-35maxpane01 January 203514 January 2026TBC

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It has arrived but it's stealth, and nobody can see it.
Same as a ninja convention.
 
2028~2030 seems the reasonable timeline in case a deal is singed in first half of 2026 which hasn't been singed SO FAR. Pakistanis are geeting Jazbaati just because CAS said that plan for induction of J-35 are in motion. Understandably, any such plan would need political and financial backing from GoP and that heavily depends on multiple factors like economy, change of PAF's own priorities after May 25 war, growing 4.5 challenge from IAF after deal of Rafale. Now that IAF has committed for 114 Rafale for 36 Billion USD deal (if we believe Indian media) it means there is no immidiate threat of IAF's 5th gen fighter. Naturally, PAF will press for more J-10CEs along with short-to-medium range ADS while Pakistan Army will induct and produce more missile for rocket force command and bulk of resources will diverted to these projects before PAF can resume induction of J-35As. So, economic, geopolitical, and technical all reasons are there to assume that J-35As are NOT coming anytime soon.

Was the signing of J-10 deal made public when it was done?
 
Was the signing of J-10 deal made public when it was done?
Tbh even if they Pakistan receives them it won't be acknowledged publically until some catches them parked in pak through sats or other sources
 
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J-35Zarvan31 March 202617 August 2025TBC
J-35Zarvan30 June 202617 August 2025TBC
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This is just a suggestion:

You should use the date when the PAF officially holds the commissioning ceremony for the FC-31/J-35 as the accurate time point for your prediction.
Other time points are subject to too much controversy and uncertainty.

The timing of the J-10CE's official entry into service with the PAF (Pakistan Air Force) will not be subject to any controversy.
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This is just a suggestion:

You should use the date when the PAF officially holds the commissioning ceremony for the FC-31/J-35 as the accurate time point for your prediction.
Other time points are subject to too much controversy and uncertainty.
Im going for August 2028

@Pakistan Space Agency maybe instead of saying lied, just say "got it wrong". Is a prediction after all.
 
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J-35flyingorca6 September 202518 August 2025Lied
J-35Zarvan31 December 202517 August 2025Lied
J-35Zarvan31 March 202617 August 2025TBC
J-35Zarvan30 June 202617 August 2025TBC
J-35maxpane01 January 203514 January 2026TBC

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Will not happen and probably shouldn't happen until India acquires 5th Gen
 

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