Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Shags101]

Lots of people say Saudi - Gulf leadership are a joke but look at their respective situation compared to others in MENA region

They have provided a good quality of life for their citizens

It's not about natural resources as others in region have that too

You can call them a joke but maybe they just understand their Arab region better than others

They have connections to big tribes and understand the tribal and religious nature of the region well

Dude just say it’s because their Sunni and move on I can at least respect that more than anything else mbs has some guy chopped into tiny bits and thrown in a acid bath we can’t call that guy pure or holy that’s just pure evil that’s all I have to say about it you can believe what you want I’m moving away from arab sunni supremacy routine

 

[Cash gk]

I get what you’re saying but I like sheep……………how about rats waiting to to get their necks snapped on the trap they see the night I. Front of them

By the way I think that’s an original line the rat waiting to get its necks snapped at the trap laid in front of them …….sounds better no

I used the sheep analogy for countries that are simply waiting for their turn doing nothing and hoping the storm passes.
Iran is different. Iran is the only country that has been standing and fighting continuously for the last 15 to 20 years. That requires stamina, patience, and resilience, and Iran has shown all three. Whatever one thinks of its strategy, its ability to endure sustained pressure is undeniable.

 

[Bharatah]

I used the sheep analogy for countries that are simply waiting for their turn doing nothing and hoping the storm passes.
Iran is different. Iran is the only country that has been standing and fighting continuously for the last 15 to 20 years. That requires stamina, patience, and resilience, and Iran has shown all three. Whatever one thinks of its strategy, its ability to endure sustained pressure is undeniable.

Iran has fighting 40 years +

 

[Unknowntruth]

Lots of people say Saudi - Gulf leadership are a joke but look at their respective situation compared to others in MENA region

They have provided a good quality of life for their citizens

It's not about natural resources as others in region have that too

You can call them a joke but maybe they just understand their Arab region better than others

They have connections to big tribes and understand the tribal and religious nature of the region well

Rich natural resources such as oil and no sanctions play a big role in that. Iran could’ve been the most developed and one of the richest countries in the Middle East if it didn’t go against Western hegemony.

 

[Falcon29]

Iraq was quickly dismantled and gulf Arab states were under U.S. protection for obvious reasons.

Far from it. Iraq was a existential threat for Kuwait and Bahrain. The region back then was on verge of war for years.

Today it is not. There are good relations with Iran. Iran isn't like Saddam won't commit to a crazy ground invasion effort. Iran was also attacked by Saddam.

It is not the case today. You just get occasional skirmishes every few years. Recently it got worse for Iran because Gaza got ruined as a result of Israeli waged genocide on Palestinian population there

Gaza was the whole Axis of Resistance when it came to actually striking Israel. Without it the rest of parties posed no serious threat and there's no risk to attacking Iran.

 

[Unknowntruth]

Far from it. Iraq was a existential threat for Kuwait and Bahrain. The region back then was on verge of war for years.

Today it is not. There are good relations with Iran. Iran isn't like Saddam won't commit to a crazy ground invasion effort. Iran was also attacked by Saddam.

It is not the case today. You just get occasional skirmishes every few years. Recently it got worse for Iran because Gaza got ruined as a result of Israeli waged genocide on Palestinian population there

Gaza was the whole Axis of Resistance when it came to actually striking Israel. Without it the rest of parties posed no serious threat and there's no risk to attacking Iran.

Kuwait was not under any real threat because U.S. was not going to let that happen.

Iran has no reason to invade its neighbors and alienate itself more. Gulf countries enjoy vast oil wealth and there aren’t really any threats to them.

 

[Cash gk]

Far from it. Iraq was a existential threat for Kuwait and Bahrain. The region back then was on verge of war for years.

Today it is not. There are good relations with Iran. Iran isn't like Saddam won't commit to a crazy ground invasion effort. Iran was also attacked by Saddam.

It is not the case today. You just get occasional skirmishes every few years. Recently it got worse for Iran because Gaza got ruined as a result of Israeli waged genocide on Palestinian population there

Gaza was the whole Axis of Resistance when it came to actually striking Israel. Without it the rest of parties posed no serious threat and there's no risk to attacking Iran.

You must see the pattern: the American war machine is consuming the entire Middle East. That is the end of the story, and that is the end of the conversation. We can craft a thousand sentences and tell a hundred stories, but it will not change the final outcome.
I think today I spoke too much truth reason why VIP status has been taken away

 

[hasssanali8998]

Reza Pahlavi:

In security and foreign policy, Iran’s nuclear military program will end.

The state of Isreal will be recognized immediately, In diplomacy, relations with the United States will be normalized and our friendship with America and her people will be restored.

 

[Falcon29]

Rich natural resources such as oil and no sanctions play a big role in that. Iran could’ve been the most developed and one of the richest countries in the Middle East if it didn’t go against Western hegemony.

That's just speculation on your part. Natural resources didn't guarantee what you suggest it guarantees.

Western Hegemony doesn't stop messing with countries because they claim to be 'cool' with them. US manipulates Saudi Arabia and Gulf nations all the time.

 

[Cash gk]

Reza Pahlavi:

In security and foreign policy, Iran’s nuclear military program will end.

The state of Isreal will be recognized immediately, In diplomacy, relations with the United States will be normalized and our friendship with America and her people will be restored.

Okay what next

 

[sutton9999]

丰富的自然资源，例如石油，以及未受制裁，在其中发挥了重要作用。如果伊朗没有与西方霸权对抗，它本可以成为中东最发达、最富有的国家之一。

too big, cut into 10 pieces, some pieces will be prosper.

 

[ToqeLowkey]

Iran needs to go in to Iraq capture it and assimilate its territory and then move to Jordan. One by one.

 

[Unknowntruth]

That's just speculation on your part. Natural resources didn't guarantee what you suggest it guarantees.

Western Hegemony doesn't stop messing with countries because they claim to be 'cool' with them. US manipulates Saudi Arabia and Gulf nations all the time.

Do you think those nations would be successful if they had the same sanctions against them as Iran?

They are only successful because they are allowed to be.

 

[Cash gk]

Empires don’t fall because they are strong
They fall when their moral narrative collapses and allies stop believing in it
Final note guys for today I will sleep

 

[Falcon29]

Kuwait was not under any real threat because U.S. was not going to let that happen.

Kuwait got invaded and annexed. Saddam believed Kuwait to be historical Iraqi land. They were under a very serious threat and the threat manifested itself.

Iran has no reason to invade its neighbors and alienate itself more. Gulf countries enjoy vast oil wealth and there aren’t really any threats to them.

Yeah that's I'm saying. Some forum members try to scare Arabs about war engulfing them they always throw arabs into it despite Arabs having no control over current situation between Iran and West. Gulf war era was a lot worse for those Arabs so today's situation certainly doesn't scare them. People underestimate them.

Me (in the past ) included. Particularly the Saudi + Gulf Arabs. Arabs of Levant and Arabs of North Africa are different groups.