Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Falcon29]

Iraq was quickly dismantled and gulf Arab states were under U.S. protection for obvious reasons.

Far from it. Iraq was a existential threat for Kuwait and Bahrain. The region back then was on verge of war for years.

Today it is not. There are good relations with Iran. Iran isn't like Saddam won't commit to a crazy ground invasion effort. Iran was also attacked by Saddam.

It is not the case today. You just get occasional skirmishes every few years. Recently it got worse for Iran because Gaza got ruined as a result of Israeli waged genocide on Palestinian population there

Gaza was the whole Axis of Resistance when it came to actually striking Israel. Without it the rest of parties posed no serious threat and there's no risk to attacking Iran.

 

[Unknowntruth]

Far from it. Iraq was a existential threat for Kuwait and Bahrain. The region back then was on verge of war for years.

Today it is not. There are good relations with Iran. Iran isn't like Saddam won't commit to a crazy ground invasion effort. Iran was also attacked by Saddam.

It is not the case today. You just get occasional skirmishes every few years. Recently it got worse for Iran because Gaza got ruined as a result of Israeli waged genocide on Palestinian population there

Gaza was the whole Axis of Resistance when it came to actually striking Israel. Without it the rest of parties posed no serious threat and there's no risk to attacking Iran.

Kuwait was not under any real threat because U.S. was not going to let that happen.

Iran has no reason to invade its neighbors and alienate itself more. Gulf countries enjoy vast oil wealth and there aren’t really any threats to them.

 

[Cash gk]

Far from it. Iraq was a existential threat for Kuwait and Bahrain. The region back then was on verge of war for years.

Today it is not. There are good relations with Iran. Iran isn't like Saddam won't commit to a crazy ground invasion effort. Iran was also attacked by Saddam.

It is not the case today. You just get occasional skirmishes every few years. Recently it got worse for Iran because Gaza got ruined as a result of Israeli waged genocide on Palestinian population there

Gaza was the whole Axis of Resistance when it came to actually striking Israel. Without it the rest of parties posed no serious threat and there's no risk to attacking Iran.

You must see the pattern: the American war machine is consuming the entire Middle East. That is the end of the story, and that is the end of the conversation. We can craft a thousand sentences and tell a hundred stories, but it will not change the final outcome.
I think today I spoke too much truth reason why VIP status has been taken away

 

[hasssanali8998]

Reza Pahlavi:

In security and foreign policy, Iran’s nuclear military program will end.

The state of Isreal will be recognized immediately, In diplomacy, relations with the United States will be normalized and our friendship with America and her people will be restored.

 

[Falcon29]

Rich natural resources such as oil and no sanctions play a big role in that. Iran could’ve been the most developed and one of the richest countries in the Middle East if it didn’t go against Western hegemony.

That's just speculation on your part. Natural resources didn't guarantee what you suggest it guarantees.

Western Hegemony doesn't stop messing with countries because they claim to be 'cool' with them. US manipulates Saudi Arabia and Gulf nations all the time.

 

[Cash gk]

Reza Pahlavi:

In security and foreign policy, Iran’s nuclear military program will end.

The state of Isreal will be recognized immediately, In diplomacy, relations with the United States will be normalized and our friendship with America and her people will be restored.

Okay what next

 

[sutton9999]

丰富的自然资源，例如石油，以及未受制裁，在其中发挥了重要作用。如果伊朗没有与西方霸权对抗，它本可以成为中东最发达、最富有的国家之一。

too big, cut into 10 pieces, some pieces will be prosper.

 

[ToqeLowkey]

Iran needs to go in to Iraq capture it and assimilate its territory and then move to Jordan. One by one.

 

[Unknowntruth]

That's just speculation on your part. Natural resources didn't guarantee what you suggest it guarantees.

Western Hegemony doesn't stop messing with countries because they claim to be 'cool' with them. US manipulates Saudi Arabia and Gulf nations all the time.

Do you think those nations would be successful if they had the same sanctions against them as Iran?

They are only successful because they are allowed to be.

 

[Cash gk]

Empires don’t fall because they are strong
They fall when their moral narrative collapses and allies stop believing in it
Final note guys for today I will sleep

 

[Falcon29]

Kuwait was not under any real threat because U.S. was not going to let that happen.

Kuwait got invaded and annexed. Saddam believed Kuwait to be historical Iraqi land. They were under a very serious threat and the threat manifested itself.

Iran has no reason to invade its neighbors and alienate itself more. Gulf countries enjoy vast oil wealth and there aren’t really any threats to them.

Yeah that's I'm saying. Some forum members try to scare Arabs about war engulfing them they always throw arabs into it despite Arabs having no control over current situation between Iran and West. Gulf war era was a lot worse for those Arabs so today's situation certainly doesn't scare them. People underestimate them.

Me (in the past ) included. Particularly the Saudi + Gulf Arabs. Arabs of Levant and Arabs of North Africa are different groups.

 

[Unknowntruth]

too big, cut into 10 pieces, some pieces will be prosper.

False,

Iran is a very resource rich country and a people who are very knowledgeable and determined people. The issue is suffocating sanctions.

 

[Starlord]

Reza Pahlavi:

In security and foreign policy, Iran’s nuclear military program will end.

The state of Isreal will be recognized immediately, In diplomacy, relations with the United States will be normalized and our friendship with America and her people will be restored.

The more he opens his mouth, the more it will be difficult for him to even return to Iran let alone rule it lol

 

[Falcon29]

Do you think those nations would be successful if they had the same sanctions against them as Iran?

They are only successful because they are allowed to be.

Nope. It's not black and white. Part of being successful is navigating sanctions. There is much bigger risk to sanction them than to sanction Iran. But also they carefully craft policy they're playing a long game in the background and have tons of plausible deniability.

Iran without sanctions doesn't guarantee it will be highly successful.

Turkish Lira got crushed by the West.

Egypt came under a Western-Israeli blockade before.

These conditions aren't unique to Iran. Arabs fought Israel and the West historically in many wars. Everyone is fighting for their survival. Each go about the game differently.

 

[Unknowntruth]

Kuwait got invaded and annexed. Saddam believed Kuwait to be historical Iraqi land. They were under a very serious threat and the threat manifested itself.

Yeah that's I'm saying. Some forum members try to scare Arabs about war engulfing them they always throw arabs into it despite Arabs having no control over current situation between Iran and West. Gulf war era was a lot worse for those Arabs so today's situation certainly doesn't scare them. People underestimate them.

Me (in the past ) included. Particularly the Saudi + Gulf Arabs. Arabs of Levant and Arabs of North Africa are different groups.

Nothing stays the same, alliances come and go. You are only safe when you can provide mutual benefit. The landscape in the Middle East will continue to change for the better or worse.