Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

It was literally imminent. Planes were in the air. B-2 Bombers were ready for a second strike. Iran had closed its entire airspace quickly (why isn’t it closed tonight? I wonder). Airlines began cancelling flights to Israel and Iran (never happens unless Intel is passed to them).

Argachi had to go on Fox News and talk to Trump directly out of desperation. Iran had to activate its back channels (Russia and the Arabs).

All to make Trump wait and get concessions out of the Iranians.

Strikes will still happen because Khamenai is not ready to negotiate in any meaningful way.
I broadly agree, although you are speculating, but it shows you should remain humble and not instantly resort to mocking people.

no CSG and no destroyers in the med means any attack was going to be limited, and Trump wants something decisive and quick

even Israel asked Trump to delay

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I broadly agree, although you are speculating, but it shows you should remain humble and not instantly resort to mocking people.

no CSG and no destroyers in the med means any attack was going to be limited, and Trump wants something decisive and quick

even Israel asked Trump to delay

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Is it me or is weird people keep mentioning the whole 2000 3000 missiles Iran has I honestly think the number is higher especially in those underground cities but my question is what are the numbers of fateh or zolifqar missiles and god knows whatever variants came before or after if the number of supposed longer range is around 3000 wouldn’t the shorter range types range closer to 10 thousand if not more those are the missiles that would be used to destroy bases close to Iran or destroy naval targets.

I think Iran at least won the pissing match for the short term they probably noticed far more Iranian military hardware being moved and readied that they had to second guess themselves
 
I have just been informed by my Reza Pahlavi supporting mother that the number that the "regime" has killed in Iran since the internet was cut off has exceeded 400 000. These people have left reality far behind.
Why some people still support zionist puppet Raza Pahalvi? I mean there are issues with the current setup, corruption, economy, no-nukes policy etc, but what is the reason they support son of Shah?
 
Why some people still support zionist puppet Raza Pahalvi? I mean there are issues with the current setup, corruption, economy, no-nukes policy etc, but what is the reason they support son of Shah?

Nostalgia from Shah times.

The average Iranian is pretty stupid and in many ways worse than the average American when it comes to knowledge of politics.

Letting the Iranian people run their country is a great way to go absolutely no where as a country. Almost as bad as letting people who studied Theology run your country.

There is a reason the Pope Doesn’t run the world anymore. It’s because it didn’t work.
 
I broadly agree, although you are speculating, but it shows you should remain humble and not instantly resort to mocking people.

no CSG and no destroyers in the med means any attack was going to be limited, and Trump wants something decisive and quick

even Israel asked Trump to delay

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It could be a bad omen i.e. an even bigger attack than originally planned....a revised decision.

This isn't over.
 

Yeah, my mistake - it should be Ebrahim Raisi, relax man.

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Is it me or if Iran has anything going on at pickaxe they better accelerate it I hope it’s not some vast empty storage room
 
Is it me or is weird people keep mentioning the whole 2000 3000 missiles Iran has I honestly think the number is higher especially in those underground cities but my question is what are the numbers of fateh or zolifqar missiles and god knows whatever variants came before or after if the number of supposed longer range is around 3000 wouldn’t the shorter range types range closer to 10 thousand if not more those are the missiles that would be used to destroy bases close to Iran or destroy naval targets.

I think Iran at least won the pissing match for the short term they probably noticed far more Iranian military hardware being moved and readied that they had to second guess themselves
2000-3000 MRBMs maybe, but not total missiles including SSMs

I think the numbers are significantly higher personally but I can't prove it. except that the biggest SSM bases were significantly impeded during the war and never saw action meaning their huge missile stockpiles were not accessed and remain available
 
Trump's advisors and leaders of some countries told Trump that the Iranian government remains strong and that the prospect of its collapse through airstrikes is unlikely, and therefore the American attack would lead to destabilizing the region's security.

Trump ordered the military to prepare, but to postpone the strike until further notice.
 
India, backstabs IR, what a great friend!

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Iran has to look at whom it chooses to befriend over others. Considering China imports most of Iran’s oil, they would be better off finding a way to protect its potential to export petrochemicals as well as ensure access to global commodities with commercial incentives to companies and countries. Or at the very least have a way to filter Indians and allow them only in a small area, away from anything remotely sensitive.

The danger of Iran’s institutions being fully penetrated also means Iran would be wise to minimize foreigners, of all kinds, being in the country. Indian “visitors”, especially non-religious pilgrims, carry higher risks, as previous cases have shown in Iran and in neighboring countries. For the sake of minimizing loose ends Iran would be better off also minimizing armed proxies on its borders with countries it has renewed good relations, as these proxies can be co-opted by others and turned against the IRI nearly just as easily.

The China brokered balance between Saudi and Iran seems to be paying off with the Saudis dissuading Trump to strike. The Iranians should build on this on work to build up relations with the Turks of Türkiye and Central Asia, as well as Pakistan (possibly via Afghanistan; a global pariah anyway, but could be a better basis to rebuild relations between Pakistan and Afghanistan as a good secondary outcome), on a commercial basis, barter trade. Make it in all their interest to not allow any element to use or even transit their territories against Iran. At the same time, this increased non-petrochemical commercial trade is the way to balance their economy and fix their currency crisis.

Furthermore, this maybe a good time for Iran to offer Chabahar and possibly one of the smaller islands in the strait of Hormuz as possibly “joint training space” with the PLAN.

India has for a long time had proven itself time and time again a fair weather friend of Iran, while a Pakistani minister went out on a limb and cursed out the Iranian pretender to the throne; calling him an “imperial whore”.


But most of all Iran will have to cutoff any avenues for its top and mid level military officers from being wooed by foreign nations opposed or even apathetic to the regime. The other major vulnerability working with Indian companies is greater cyber vulnerability, opening backdoor for others to take out communication; command and control networks from governmental/military as well as public services and commercial communication networks. Drone swarms are another threat, especially from concealed launch points, close to military installations, as seen in the mass drone swarm attacks deep in Russia. Iran will also have to defend its defenses. Defend its jammers and other means of preventing foreign attacks.

China as a rapidly developing nation could offer alternative opportunities for foreign travel and commercial prospects to minimize the risk of defections amongst the defense forces and police forces. With India, the risk of Iranian military officers being turned can’t be ruled out.
 
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2000-3000 MRBMs maybe, but not total missiles including SSMs

I think the numbers are significantly higher personally but I can't prove it. except that the biggest SSM bases were significantly impeded during the war and never saw action meaning their huge missile stockpiles were not accessed and remain available
Yeah that’s the problem no one knows hey if new conflict comes I honestly hope not I like a good show but we forget the show is actually horror for those on the ground but if it does happen I’m hoping Iran has those short range rockets primed and ready these protests were legitimate in the beginning but got I hijacked by outside forces we all knew it now their own people are talking about it they thought Iran was going to fall because of it I guess that backfired now their own people hardliners have gotten the excuse they needed to stamp out any dissent
 
I have just been informed by my Reza Pahlavi supporting mother that the number that the "regime" has killed in Iran since the internet was cut off has exceeded 400 000. These people have left reality far behind.
Side question, considering Reza Pahlavi doesn’t have a son, what happens to the royalist cause upon his death, if the regime doesn’t fall before then?
 

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