Turkey Said to Seek Membership of Saudi-Pakistan Defense Pact

[Samurai]

I was right about my prediction in one of the forum regarding the potential for UAE-Indian defence deal. We all saw the signs especially when UAE president made a surprise visit to Pakistan just before Pakistan made deals to sell JF-17 financed to Saudi Arabia to its allies and proxies that are fighting against UAE backed groups. So Pakistan must have politely refused any UAE's counter offers, and when Pakistan-Turkey-Saudi are forming an alliance, we see the UAE president making counter deals with India. I also predicted in another forum, that I am seeing Pakistan-UAE relations cooling off in near future. Its a great game of chess now.

 

[Cesur]

I was right about my prediction in one of the forum regarding the potential for UAE-Indian defence deal. We all saw the signs especially when UAE president made a surprise visit to Pakistan just before Pakistan made deals to sell JF-17 financed to Saudi Arabia to its allies and proxies that are fighting against UAE backed groups. So Pakistan must have politely refused any UAE's counter offers, and when Pakistan-Turkey-Saudi are forming an alliance, we see the UAE president making counter deals with India. I also predicted in another forum, that I am seeing Pakistan-UAE relations cooling off in near future. Its a great game of chess now.

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The UAE–India–Israel alliance spans political, economic, and strategic interests and it’s about as overt as it gets.

At its core is a shared ambition to shape major maritime trade routes and gain leverage through critical port infrastructure. India is pursuing a long-term presence in Chabahar, Iran, as a gateway to Central Asia. Israel is seeking greater strategic depth through Syria and Somaliland, while the UAE has worked to expand its influence across key corridors such as Yemen and Sudan.

In that context, the emerging Pakistan–Saudi–Türkiye alignment begins to look far more logical. Pakistan balancing India, Saudi Arabia resisting UAE regional dominance, and Türkiye positioning itself against Israel’s expanding footprint.

 

[Starlord]

The UAE–India–Israel alliance spans political, economic, and strategic interests and it’s about as overt as it gets.

At its core is a shared ambition to shape major maritime trade routes and gain leverage through critical port infrastructure. India is pursuing a long-term presence in Chabahar, Iran, as a gateway to Central Asia. Israel is seeking greater strategic depth through Syria and Somaliland, while the UAE has worked to expand its influence across key corridors such as Yemen and Sudan.

In that context, the emerging Pakistan–Saudi–Türkiye alignment begins to look far more logical. Pakistan balancing India, Saudi Arabia resisting UAE regional dominance, and Türkiye positioning itself against Israel’s expanding footprint.

Pak/KSA/Turkey Alliance makes most sense, as each country brings a unique power to the PACT, Pakistan strong military + Nukes, Turkey Strong military + Technology and KSA Money + Influence, this Alliance can also work towards a stable Gaza, and securing a pathway towards a independent Palestinian state, but unfortunately we have Cnts like UAE and Qatar who often play double roles, But I think its best for region that this PACT is finalize and we see some major developments, so far we have just hear rumors and news but no changes on ground.

 

[Samurai]

The UAE–India–Israel alliance spans political, economic, and strategic interests and it’s about as overt as it gets.

At its core is a shared ambition to shape major maritime trade routes and gain leverage through critical port infrastructure. India is pursuing a long-term presence in Chabahar, Iran, as a gateway to Central Asia. Israel is seeking greater strategic depth through Syria and Somaliland, while the UAE has worked to expand its influence across key corridors such as Yemen and Sudan.

In that context, the emerging Pakistan–Saudi–Türkiye alignment begins to look far more logical. Pakistan balancing India, Saudi Arabia resisting UAE regional dominance, and Türkiye positioning itself against Israel’s expanding footprint.

Well said, although regarding the Chabahar port, India has already pulled off from that from the threats of Trump's tariff (Source: Dawn). So we won't be seeing India making any major maritime foothold with Iran. However, with UAE forming an alliance, India will obviously take benefits from Dubai as a port city and which also becomes a competitor to Gwadar.

 

[Cesur]

Pak/KSA/Turkey Alliance makes most sense, as each country brings a unique power to the PACT, Pakistan strong military + Nukes, Turkey Strong military + Technology and KSA Money + Influence, this Alliance can also work towards a stable Gaza, and securing a pathway towards a independent Palestinian state, but unfortunately we have Cnts like UAE and Qatar who often play double roles, But I think its best for region that this PACT is finalize and we see some major developments, so far we have just hear rumors and news but no changes on ground.

I’d add Egypt to this as well. It's the largest Arab country and like Pakistan, it has chosen Saudi Arabia as a closer partner over the UAE. Recently, Egypt has been pushing back against the UAE’s attempt to lease a port and to spread its influence in Libya, an effort aimed at strengthening influence over the Suez Canal and the Eastern Mediterranean, while also bringing the UAE closer to Israel in shaping a joint regional order.

At the same time, Egypt has been proactively engaging with Pakistan. Our foreign ministers speak almost every other week. I have a strong sense that Egypt could become the fourth partner in a Pakistan–Saudi–Türkiye defence pact.

Well said, although regarding the Chabahar port, India has already pulled off from that from the threats of Trump's tariff (Source: Dawn). So we won't be seeing India making any major maritime foothold with Iran. However, with UAE forming an alliance, India will obviously take benefits from Dubai as a port city and which also becomes a competitor to Gwadar.

Chabahar will likely remain ineffective as long as Iran remains under sanctions, and it doesn’t seem like those sanctions will be lifted anytime soon especially since attempts to change the regime have failed. Additionally, since China is a superpower and already present in Gwadar, no regional country would realistically dare to confront them directly. If the UAE has any role in destabilizing Balochistan for its benefit, that kind of involvement cannot sustain long-term.

 

[PakAl]

 

[RocketLaw]

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Another angle of this defence alignment is that the Israelis are very much against it; Saudi less dependent on the US, Saudis less likely to recognize Israel, more likely for Pakistan to be able to extend its nuclear umbrella if need be, and most of all more likely for stability in the region. According to the following IDF aligned video, Israel needs instability (groups fight groups in the region):

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The anti-Türkiye angle is also most visible from this video; Israel’s next perceived threat after Iran, with Pakistan a third after it.

For the Saudi-Pak alliance, stabilizing and turning Sudan and Libya onto its side fully, as well as unify Somalia would go a long way to close off areas that are destabilized and could be used against the countries allied with Saudi and Pakistan.

Saudis ejecting UAE from Yemen was a good opening move, and now Saudis are working with Sudan to buy their gold.

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IMHO, I hope this is an opening move to defeated the RSF on the ground and from the air, and reunify Sudan, especially if the Egyptians are on board to get it done. Having the JF-17 participating in this conflict, to end the genocide in western Sudan would go a long way to the JF-17 being seen in a positive light, especially if its landing gear can be modified to:
1. Operate on less than ideal runways
2. Carry larger ordnance under its wings and fuselage.

Sudan is a large country, but not so large, and probably the best place for the JF-17 to show its Air to ground capabilities. Helping to open up for countries to seek to operate it, as part of the alignment with Saudi and Pakistan, and possibly creating a stabilizing framework for partner nations in Africa; military, political and economic.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Another angle of this defence alignment is that the Israelis are very much against it; Saudi less dependent on the US, Saudis less likely to recognize Israel, more likely for Pakistan to be able to extend its nuclear umbrella if need be, and most of all more likely for stability in the region. According to the following IDF aligned video, Israel needs instability (groups fight groups in the region):

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The anti-Türkiye angle is also most visible from this video; Israel’s next perceived threat after Iran, with Pakistan a third after it.

For the Saudi-Pak alliance, stabilizing and turning Sudan and Libya onto its side fully, as well as unify Somalia would go a long way to close off areas that are destabilized and could be used against the countries allied with Saudi and Pakistan.

Saudis ejecting UAE from Yemen was a good opening move, and now Saudis are working with Sudan to buy their gold.

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IMHO, I hope this is an opening move to defeated the RSF on the ground and from the air, and reunify Sudan, especially if the Egyptians are on board to get it done.

Of all the non-Muslim folks they understand the Ilahi Sunnet most. They know that HE doesn't change the fate a nation unless it takes the initiative first. They also know that HIS Rahmet and Bereket increase on the Ehl-i Iman as they form unity with sincerity. Please note that HIS Rahmet is for all, but Bereket is only for the Muslims when they strive with Iman and Ihlas. It implies the combined military industrial complex that KSA-Pak-Turkey can form will result in producing wonders. It further implies if HIS Jemalet (Affection) is on this Muslim alliance, HIS Jelalet (Rage) will be on its adversaries. And, much of their machine will start malfunctioning. A glaring example is the Tejas crash inside the UAE (La'net inside La'net) for the public pleasure.....

 

[Eşbah]

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[FuturePAF]

Of all the non-Muslim folks they understand the Ilahi Sunnet most. They know that HE doesn't change the fate a nation unless it takes the initiative first. They also know that HIS Rahmet and Bereket increase on the Ehl-i Iman as they form unity with sincerity. Please note that HIS Rahmet is for all, but Bereket is only for the Muslims when they strive with Iman and Ihlas. It implies the combined military industrial complex that KSA-Pak-Turkey can form will result in producing wonders. It further implies if HIS Jemalet (Affection) is on this Muslim alliance, HIS Jelalet (Rage) will be on its adversaries. And, much of their machine will start malfunctioning. A glaring example is the Tejas crash inside the UAE (La'net inside La'net) for the public pleasure.....

A couple of questions came to mind. If Iran is struck by the US, in the coming days, and Iran retaliates on US presence in Saudi, will that obligate Pakistan and Türkiye to strike Iran? If the Houthis at the same time strike Saudi oil facilities, will Pakistan and Türkiye be obligated to strike the Houthis, and/or send troops there?

 

[r3alist]

I was right about my prediction in one of the forum regarding the potential for UAE-Indian defence deal. We all saw the signs especially when UAE president made a surprise visit to Pakistan just before Pakistan made deals to sell JF-17 financed to Saudi Arabia to its allies and proxies that are fighting against UAE backed groups. So Pakistan must have politely refused any UAE's counter offers, and when Pakistan-Turkey-Saudi are forming an alliance, we see the UAE president making counter deals with India. I also predicted in another forum, that I am seeing Pakistan-UAE relations cooling off in near future. Its a great game of chess now.

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What India agreed to was less than an mou.


They left the UAE high-and dry

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

A couple of questions came to mind. If Iran is struck by the US, in the coming days, and Iran retaliates on US presence in Saudi, will that obligate Pakistan and Türkiye to strike Iran? If the Houthis at the same time strike Saudi oil facilities, will Pakistan and Türkiye be obligated to strike the Houthis, and/or send troops there?

IMHO the Iranians are intelligent folks. They won't go into a suicidal mission. On top of it, the disruption of oil supply would tank the world economy. President Trump can't afford it. So, a "middle" path to satisfy Trump's super-ego to win at every "poker table" may be found.....

 

[FuturePAF]

IMHO the Iranians are intelligent folks. They won't go into a suicidal mission. On top of it, the disruption of oil supply would tank the world economy. President Trump can't afford it. So, a "middle" path to satisfy Trump's super-ego to win at every "poker table" may be found.....

I hope you are right.

 

[Aziqbal]

The Yinon Plan was authored by Israeli Zionist for Greater Israel in 1982 in the publication Kivunim

The nations it mentioned were Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, , Libya, Yemen, Sudan and the Palestinian territories including West Bank and Gaza

If you dont destroy them start civil wars, if they agree make them sign Abraham accords like Jordan and Egypt

The publication also mentions Saudi Arabia and later extended to Iran as Iranian revolution got stronger

Zionist has destroyed every single country in the Middle East, those poor people a victim of a strategy they have nothing to do with

Over 43 years the Zionists have stuck to the plan, very accurately with patience you have to give it to them

Iran is the last man standing, they want to finish Iran once in for all, Iran is also the strongest player in the Middle East

They want Iran to have a government which is subservient to the Greater Israel plan and they wont stop until they achieve their goal

Pakistan-Turkey-Saudi Arabia military alliance is a big threat to the Greater Israel project

So after Iran its their Turn, Saudi Arabia has said clearly we wont recognise Israel until Palestinians are given equal rights in their own nation

Saudi will not sign the Abraham accords simply no way, they will be a threat to Israel and Israel will fund a civil war in Saudi Arabia

The attack on Iran will happen its a matter of when